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      • aCiD2
        -00:00:00- � Info� Day changed to (Sunday, March 16th 2008).
      • wtf is it really sunday?
      • aCiD2 calls bs
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      • BrianFreud
        still saturday here :)
      • gf and I are disagreeing about the weather. I still say "dark" is a perfectly good answer to "how's the weather", when it's asked at 8 pm :D
      • yllona
        BrianFreud: it's very windy here
      • creature
        It would be awesome if there was some tool to auto-fill from the wiki to a new release.
      • Copy-and-paste for 34 tracks is tedious and boring.
      • BrianFreud
        we won't be in the wiki long, just waiting for works lists. And hitting the wiki that often would crush the wiki server - the CSG lists are rather big pages.
      • creature
        I hope I'm not wasting my time adding these things in right now 'by hand'.
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      • BrianFreud, I don't suppose you're familiar with the Christmas Oratorio, are you?
      • Ah, never mind.
      • From the CD box: "The tenor recitative 'Und alsobald war da bei dem Engel' before the chorus 'Ehre sei Gott in der Höhe' is missing from this recording for reasons unknown to us."
      • Lame.
      • The final track on this disc contains both Weihnachts-Oratorium, BWV 248: Teil III, XXXV. Choral "Seid froh dieweil" and Weihnachts-Oratorium, BWV 248: Teil III, XXIV. Coro da capo "Herrscher des Himmels, erhöre das Lallen". How should I display it?
      • Erm, input it.
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      • Help me out with this track and I can go to bed. :|
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      • BrianFreud doesn't really know much Bach at all
      • xlotlu
        damn, 2 cars on fire outside my window and i can't find my camera
      • creature
        BrianFreud: This is more "How do I cite two consecutive movements on one track" rather than "which is correct".
      • BrianFreud
        This is a track, FU 123: (Container:) I. Allegro / II. Andante
      • xlotlu
        creature: usually with a slash.
      • creature
        Awesome, thanks.
      • xlotlu
        whose is the FU catalogue?
      • BrianFreud
        LOL
      • ruaok: Johnny Five is alive! You SO need one of these on your desk: http://www.tuxisalive.com/
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      • aCiD2
        mmmmm, Jurassic 5 - Hey
      • creature
        OK, I lied. How do I deal with one section split between two tracks?
      • I am thinking: 'Weihnachts-Oratorium, BWV 248: Teil V, XLVa. Coro "Wo ist der neugeborne König"' and 'Weihnachts-Oratorium, BWV 248: Teil V, XLVb. Coro "Wir haben seinen Stern gesehen"
      • Though I'm not sure about labelling it a 'Coro', as my notes give it as 'Chor und Rezitativ'.
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      • ruaok
        BrianFreud: I have one of those. I was given one at OSCON, but I never had time to play with it yet. :-(
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      • yllona
        crawfish tacos, pico ge gallo, guacamole, fresh made tortilla chips -- that's what i'm talkin' 'bout :)
      • ruaok
        nice. I just came back from a b-day party with real mexican food and corn tortillas that were made seconds ago.
      • ruaok drools
      • yllona
        ruaok: this is the joint: http://www.skysgourmettacos.com/
      • right down the road -- the pico corridor is an ethnic food paradise
      • Muzzz
        Mmm crayfish
      • yllona
        yep. i love them. too bad they're seasonal fare.
      • Muzzz
      • Crawfish redirects to Crayfish it seems
      • But the two articles have different images
      • ruaok
        lol
      • you get different version if you're in the south of the US. :)
      • yllona
        i grew up calling them crawdads ;)
      • ruaok
        for the UK its random
      • yllona
        some folks call them langostino, but those are slightly different
      • BrianFreud
        long read, but for those who love the RIAA as much as I do, this is just sooooo nice a read :) http://www.ilrweb.com/viewILRPDFfull.asp?filena...
      • yllona
        BrianFreud: that's going to be interesting to watch -- for sure
      • BrianFreud
        I'm halfway through now. The nicest part is, it doesn't depend on any stretches of law or strange interpretations - it's quite simple in reach, and every act it describes is well covered by existing law and decisions
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      • yllona
        Muzzz: have you tried any of the recipes i've e-mailed you? please let me know if they're too complex
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      • Muzzz
        yllona: not been cooking much atm :(
      • yllona
        Muzzz: yes, it's been busy for you... so sorry.
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      • Muzzz
        yllona: it's more that I've been about the girlfriend a lot and she seems to enjoy cooking and won't let me have a word in it otherwise :P
      • yllona
        wow, that's fabulous. a girlfriend who loves cooking :)
      • Muzzz
        She's not half bad at it either
      • yllona won't try to figure out the Muzzz timeline on girlfriends
      • I hardly get through them that quickly
      • yllona
        i know, but it hard for me to know without prying or being a busy-body ;)
      • suffice to say, you have a girlfriend that you really like :)
      • Muzzz
        Wouldn
      • 't be with her otherwise
      • :)
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      • yllona
        ruaok: i mentioned while you were out that the fishbone concert was amazing -- complete with an old-skool mosh pit.
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      • BrianFreud
        somehow, I think this might just actually end up being the wedge that finally kills the RIAA
      • yllona
        BrianFreud: i'm not quite that optimistic, but hopeful
      • ruaok
        nice :-)
      • BrianFreud
        When they get into the details as to just what they're claiming was done by MediaSentry, the RIAA, and the labels, it's pretty much the very definition of RICO, Fraud, the Computer Abuse act, and others
      • yllona
        it's raining!
      • ruaok
        has been here off an on.
      • we've had a couple of patches of nice clear moments:
      • yllona
        socal also had snow and hail (!)
      • ruaok
      • yllona
        yes, we had drizzle earlier - but now it's real rain
      • and kudos to last.fm on the fishbone video (official and unofficial)
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      • yllona is listening to Stretchin' Out (In A Rubber Band) by Bootsy's Rubber Band from Stretchin' Out in Bootsy's Rubber Band (1976) (3:40 / 6:47.252990722656)
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      • BrianFreud
        MBChatLogger: off
      • MBChatLogger
        is not logging
      • is logging
      • drsaunde
        damn
      • at least they didn't taser you first
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      • Zharf
        twin peaks soundtrack, I was very annoyed of the music when I watched the few first crappy episodes of it..
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      • Mirrakor
        Anyone knows an app to "compare" two sound files (some sort of spectral analyzer?!) - I'd like to see how a CD-Track distincts from a ripped ogg/mp3
      • MClemo
        most of the time the higher frequencies are cut using a low-pass filter
      • doesn't tell you how it sounds, though
      • Mirrakor
        I'm wondering if a 1:1 Copy of a CD(well.. it's not the newest anymore, so it has some small scratches[I don't think someone would notice them while hearing]) or if a mp3/ogg to CD copy would make a noticable difference
      • MClemo
        lossy encoders are quite good, so you probably don't hear the difference CD -> mp3/ogg. Depends on your ears, the audio content and how it's encoded
      • Mirrakor
        ogg is better than mp3 , right? (what do you think about FLAC etc. ) [sorry for asking so much :D ]
      • MClemo
        flac is lossless so no difference to your CDs. I use flac and transcode to mp3/ogg/aac/...
      • you can use an even lower bitrate with ogg to be still transparent (== you don't hear the difference to the CD)
      • Mirrakor
        but flac is much bigger than ogg/mp3, isn't it?
      • MClemo
        sure. Depends on the source. I got about 500 albums in flac and they take 140 GB
      • but hard drives are cheap, so that's really nothing compared on how much I spend on CDs
      • *compared to
      • Mirrakor
        that's true, but can you give me an example of the size of a file with different encodings - I don't know a real factor, I'm just thinking "wooh, lossless, must be almost as big as a real CD"
      • MClemo
        loud rock is about 70 to 80 percent of the CD. So if you got 700 MB audio material or more that's more than 500 MB
      • petros
        my average album in flac is about 350 MB
      • MClemo
        that's the worst case, though
      • yeah, my average album is 300 MB
      • petros
        enoded in either ogg vorbis or acc it can be any number below tht depending of quality
      • MClemo
        and you can choose the format/bitrate for each use case. I have lame -V 5 mp3 files for my car, aac with a higher bitrate for the ipod
      • can go lower than that and still have the flac files if you're not happy
      • Mirrakor
        I see.. hm.. my average album is about ~70MiB(mp3) and ~50MiB(ogg), I'm wondering if it's worth for me to use FLAC I mean in the vs. ogg the filesize is about 6x
      • [Another related question might be: Am I less able to hear a difference on PC with headphones, than I would with a hifi stereo(or 5.1) system ? )
      • MClemo
        if you have the disk space and no problem with the additional time used for transcoding to lossy, I'd use flac
      • petros
        Also, with flac you won't have the hassle of reripping if want to change to another lossy format later on?
      • MClemo
        true. Rip once and never again :)
      • Mirrakor
        it'
      • petros
        Once mp3 was king, now it's ogg vorbis or aac or wmv or something else.
      • Mirrakor
        it's actually the same for me - since my I've got a mp3/ogg player
      • hm.. I see your point.. it's future proof