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      • ruaok
        LOL
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      • ruaok
        YouTube is awesome.
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      • outsidecontext
        why?
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      • ruaok
        go watch any featured video. :)
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      • petros
        Heh, det er s�danne kommentarer fra min en af mine favoritmusikere der (ironisk) beder om en kompliment fra et n�rt bandmedlem i et musik interview, der g�r ham v�rd at h�re p�:
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      • petros
        MCCOLLUM: I gave you a compliment before. Remember? I interjected . . .
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      • petros
        DULLI: Your interjections are too cryptic for my mortal mind. I want a full-on compliment here.
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      • petros
        That's boring! I called you the greatest slide player since Duane Allman, and all you can say about me is that I progressed!??! You make it sound like I'm cancer or something! Tumours progress! I'm your friend! Your singer! Your bandmate! Your co-guitar player! I want some damn respect!!!!
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      • petros
        wOW, WRONG CHANNEL
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      • mudcrow
        i love wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_T4_Project Released November 13, 2006 - non wikipedia release date (ie the actual release date) May 13th 2008.
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      • srotta
        Huh?
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      • mudcrow
        I wonder how they can have a release date 2 years before the actual release
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      • srotta
        Has it been available for download?
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      • srotta
        (As the page says)
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      • mudcrow
        nope, not available yet.
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      • srotta
        That page was created in December 2006 and that version already claims it's available from the website as paid download.
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      • mudcrow
        http://www.thet4project.com/# only has an itunes link and itunes says no such release exists
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      • nikki_
        would you add things before they've been officially released?
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      • nikki_
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      • mudcrow
        would I? no. because for example wikipedia lists 18 tracks and the official myspace page lists 10. which is correct?
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      • srotta
        No.
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      • nikki
        hmm.
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      • nikki
        well, this is a japanese one
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      • srotta
        mudcrow: Wikipedia includes the "pseudo-commercials".
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      • srotta
        But yeah, the end result is the same - there's no way to know how many tracks the official release has.
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      • mudcrow
        yes, but are they seperate tracks on the album, or part of the main tracks? I have no idea if the CD is 10 tracks or 18
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      • nikki
        I know the track list, catalogue number, price, asin
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      • nikki
        for both versions...
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      • nikki
        label, of course
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      • mudcrow
        you could add it nikki, and make it a low quality release until release date. just in case of any changes
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      • mudcrow
        hmm i just found the T4 project release on a certain file sharing site
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      • srotta
        Nakedaggression.com has news about it from 2006 mentioning downloadable files from project page.
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      • srotta
        Download the complete 18 track concept album at "thet4project.com"
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      • srotta
        Visit The T4 Project Myspace page for songs and videos.
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      • mudcrow
        yeah i just found something similar at http://www.punknews.org/article/27996
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      • nikki rolls around laughing at http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2008/04/01/acid-3-opera-first-to-106
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      • mudcrow
        Your requests are exceeding the allowable rate limit (14.8, limit is 13.0 per 10 seconds)
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      • mudcrow
        Please slow down then try again. huh?
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      • CatCat
        DËTHKLØK \o/
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      • CatCat
        nikki: AWSUM!
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      • mudcrow
        teo @ discogs "Looking back, the deployment of V4 was not planned well and came off quite sloppy" quote of the week.
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      • mudcrow
        http://musicbrainz.org/release/5757957a-ad44-47d7… spent ages adding all the ARs. found a copy and downloaded it...and it's crap :(
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      • chefkoch_AW
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      • MClemo
        what did they do in V4?
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      • mudcrow
        fucked up everything. allowed all submissions and edits to go live straight away, removed the voting queue, removed the ability to reject releases. basically removed all controls from submissions and removed the abilty to find subs and edits
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      • mudcrow
        nothing seems to have been tested, the edit history disappeared for most releases, no notification was being given to comments on edits, watch lists (subscribed artists) disappeared
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      • mudcrow
        and a large amount of the community left because the discogs management refused to admit that anything was wrong
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      • mudcrow
        I still get no notification of edits made to releases/artists in my collection. I just get a list of new submissions to artists I'm not subscribed to
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      • CatCat lols at how "Censorship" and "Homophobia" has no ars
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      • MClemo
        mudcrow: wow, that sounds bet. Glad I ended up here ;)
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      • MClemo
        s/bet/bad/
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      • MClemo
        next time I write bed when I mean bad probably
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      • mudcrow
        yep, it annoys that discogs state they are a community database while the actively censor and ignore their community. 600+ discogs users have declared their disastisfaction with the latest changes and 70 moerators are left or refuse to moderate, and discogs still deny anything is wrong
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      • mudcrow
        the =they
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      • mudcrow
        *moderators have left
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      • mudcrow
        today is poor typing day
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      • Kilu
        glad I never bothered with discogs
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      • mudcrow
        myself and others are extremely pissed off that the countless, thankless hours spent moderating and expanding their database are now deemed worthless by discogs. They have shown time & time again this year that they don't give a fuck about their "community"
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      • warp
        kilu :)
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      • mudcrow
        theres about 250 ex discogs mods and users actively trying to create a community built/community managed non profit alternative to discogs. I hope they succeed
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      • CatCat
        hi warpen
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      • luks
        speaking of discogs... now that their data are PD-licensed, I was playing a bit with http://oxygene.sk/lukas/import-discogs.php
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      • CatCat is trying to figure out the paril fools joke
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      • mudcrow
        nice luks
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      • mudcrow
        could you do one for rateyormusic? http://rateyourmusic.com/release/ep/discharge/rea…
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      • luks
        hm, should be easy
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      • CatCat
        Now grooving to: Dethklok ~ Thunderhorse (2:45) (from Metalocalypse: Dethklok The Dethalbum (disc 1)) (2007)
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      • CatCat
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      • BrianFreud
        mudcrow: I guess it just tells me "get the data out of these asap before they collapse!"
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      • BrianFreud
        luks, nice, been working on the AR end of that
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      • mudcrow
        yes, BrianFreud there are worries that with the instant live edits and lack of edit history, a lot of discogs data will be quickly corupted
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      • BrianFreud
        luks, actually... It'd be really easy to toss together a (FF only) script to add a link to Discogs, and auto-click the 2 buttons on that page... instant Discogs import script...
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      • BrianFreud
        (if you don't plan to add the functionality to MB directly anyhow)
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      • CatCat
        lol why doe i read that name as "murdercrow" now?
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      • CatCat
        lol
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      • luks
        BrianFreud: the release editor doesn't allow AR editing
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      • luks
        do there is no easy way to do that right now
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      • BrianFreud
        mudcrow: to be honest, though, it seems more like their problem is that they added real editing functionality, without making it clear just what is or isn't actually voted through. looking at a history like http://www.discogs.com/history?release=1257120 , it looks like what would happen if you made all editors at MB autoeditors
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      • CatCat
        uh.. so discogs goign wtfery wasnt an april fools joke?
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      • BrianFreud
        luks: I know. I have been doing it the hard way, mapping each and every Discogs AR to one of ours, finding those that can't be mapped, and disassembling the POST made by each and every form on MB
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      • BrianFreud
        is beyond a pain to pull off atm
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      • luks
        BrianFreud: yeah, but I don't want fully automatic import
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      • luks
        the data need to be reviewed first
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      • luks
        and if I'm going to implement that, I'll rather implement it as part of the release editor :)
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      • mudcrow
        yes, BrianFreud and removed the edit search. and removed your edit and voting history.
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      • BrianFreud
        I agree; that's part of what I was working on... how to put that into a GUI without the GUI being insanely overcomplex to understand
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      • CatCat
        mudcrow: and this happened to*daY*?
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      • mudcrow
        no catcat. since the beginning of March.
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      • BrianFreud
        lol, I liked the TISP better: http://www.google.com/virgle/index.html
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      • CatCat
        oh
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      • CatCat
        just, started talking abotu it *now* sos i uh got confuseds
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      • mudcrow
        it was today the Teo @ discogs finally agreed that his update was a "bit sloppy"
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      • mudcrow
        the/that
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      • CatCat
        thats porbably the april fools joke :P
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      • BrianFreud
        hmmm, interesting philosophy from lauri, if I interpret it correctly... a yes on a good edit is the same as an abstain, only a no really is meaningful
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      • CatCat
        pfft
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      • mudcrow
        catcat: it probably is. unusal for teo to admit he's ever wrong
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        lukz: hiii
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        ruaok: ping
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      • outsidecontext
        brasilly: i don't think ruaok is online :)
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      • Brassily
        ok
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      • Brassily
        what about lukz ?
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      • Brassily
        outsidecontext: I want to know something about the musicbrainz website