#musicbrainz

petros: lol :D

Well, we only have the fun we make :)

BrianFreud, I would just like to tell you that my project is trying to link MB to wikipedia

I think it is impossible though

BrianFreud: maybe it is time to rethink the "notes are not mandatory" bit

was there a ticket about adding ASIN, discogs and other URLs to the AddRelease page?

Once implemented we could add to it: "it is mandatory to add at least one of these URLs, or state why they do not apply to this release"

it depends on what other URLs are allowed

or atleast are deemed acceptable

Mmm, coke.

Some one once told me that coke and pepsi will be called the ciggeretts of the 21st century

zoke: aren't they already?

I guess so, but in the future when we look back on it

but hopefully some one will have invented something that tastes just like coke, but isn't full of fat

that would be coke.

aka cocaine

Chinotto forever: http://www.ditalia.niaf.org/images/large/42006.jpg

The original one, not the fake Nestlé or Coca-Cola one

The most important bit of coke is the sugar, heretics,.

gioele: I think, in general, we do ok... luckily editors with issues like this one are rare. (Even if they do assume noone but them will udnerstand when they say, for example, "t'es un vrai trouduc" in a note :P)

BrianFreud: not much: 90% of new Italian releases are without a source URL

60% of my request are not responded to

oh, I think having the blanks on the form would be REALLY helpful - people like to fill blanks. I just don't know that it has to be actually a manditory thing...

and a 10/15% of the requester felt hurt by such a request

"Blanks"?

BrianFreud: mandatory url OR explain why you can't give one

empty fields

It is late night, I feel _____

yeah, I guess

freso: Discogs/ASIN/Wiki url AR blanks as part of the add release form?

BrianFreud: As in, separate fields?

yeah - just like you have a blank for the release title

Kerensky97: I wrote a reply

I remember when people used to add loads of non-album tracks and just type gibberish like "asdf" for the required note...

Perhaps it would be an idea to have some "greyed out" text in the edit note field saying something like "Please say why you're making this edits, as well as state any sources you may have (URLs, a physical copy, etc.)".

Which would magically vanish once you started typing something in the field.

meh, I'd rather see proper text

deadchip: you still there?

nikki: what time is it in London?

11:30?

yes

feh.

11:30 in germany?

nikki: The trick here would be that the "greyed out text" wouldn't be submitted.

00:30 in germany

ruaok, yeah

Di 8. Apr 00:32:57 CEST 2008

did the time change just happen then?

like yesterday?

ruaok, it was last saturday

no, that was last week

to sunday

oh, ok.

we've now two weeks earlier than you.

nikki: I'm not sure *exactly* how this is done, but I've seen it used several time on other websites.

on the Bass Guitar issue: http://musicbrainz.org/track/c4310335-9213-46a6...

ruaok: did you see my question yesterday?

those are two separate instuments being played --- not "Bass Guitar"

so that code is all ok.

nikki: no

ruaok: It's also listed as two separate instruments... ?

yes

ruaok: I'm curious whether we're allowed urls like the one in http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=8583994

ah

2 instruments, o

k

nikki: allowed, apparently. :)

desirable, maybe not.

is that a user contrib cover?

yep

I've seen a few people trying to get cover art from user submitted covers that way

heh. maybe that's a loophole for us to exploit.

use amazon to upload cover art that we don't have and then link to it.

Thought it violated the AZN ws agreement to deep link that way?

I can't recall.

did you read that recently?

Oh well.

been a while, nothing recent

I really, seriously need to actually go properly to bed.

G'night all!

natta Freso

Tykling: Jeg har fundet noget hiphop du skal høre, så prik lige til mig når du kan. =)

it doesn't currently display the cover art when we add a link like that though, if it's acceptable to link to user submitted cover art, it would be good if it did display it

would someone like to volunteer to read the ToS to see if this is legit or not?

then we can set policy...

ok, I've gots to run off for a few to exchange backup disks at the colo

Threw this together real quick (as concept): http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/brianfreud...

Would be quite simple to write for (FireFox only) GM... but the people we most want to get to be adding urls would be the ones least likely to have any MB script installed

BrianFreud: actually the coverart field is quite hard to get right for a new editor (permissions...) and I'd leave the free form note box in it

g'nite

MBChatLogger: off

is not logging

is logging

Dig.. th.. mu.. the music industry makes me so sad.

it makes me cry myself to sleep

argh, why is genpuid such a resource hog

It's attempting to summon jesus.

\o/

also, have we developed a systematic way to get new releases in to MB ?

I just added a release from october 2007

Congratulations!

I think there's just simply too many coming from WAY too many labels for us to try

(music industry complaint #1: if the labels actually published a list of what they published..)

what about just monitoring Sony BMG for example ?

Does anyone notice anything kind of odd about this edit? http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=8534479

like, umm, what release and which track?

FauxFaux: yeah :/ I would add all the new releases from certain labels if I knew they'd been released >_<

Or, hell (#2), they gave everything that they released a unique name.

I tried for Varese Sarabande, but while it's easy to know what they're going to eventually release in the next few months, it's hard to stay on top of which ones od those they actually just release

or at least a unique number, like ISBN

ISRC?

zoke: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ISRC

Unique {title,artist} pair, unique catalogue number and unique barcode.

I've noticed some stuff about japanese catalogue numbers that I didn't even know before

why am I unable to locate these numbers

and why does MB not support them ?

which numbers?

hell, there's lots of numbers MB could track

ISRC, I assume.

ISRC

ah

I wish I could submit the isrcs from my CDs

the more numbers the better, the greater chance of locating the exact release

I know they're there because my ripper puts them in the tags

BMI registration #, ASCAP registration number, ISRC, GRid, etc

My randomly selected cd (now69, universal) has lots of numbers, but none of them look isrcy.

(this is such an awful cd)

I have one here with an IFPI number in the matrix area - IFPI L005

hmm, I don't see this number anywhere

Seems like it's digitally stored as a watermark on the recording - "Each ISRC is a unique and permanent identifier for a specific recording which can be permanently encoded into a product as its digital fingerprint. Encoded ISRC provide the means to automatically identify recordings for royalty payments."