#musicbrainz

what's the "edit url thing"?

if you edit an url into an url that already edits, it accepts the edit but the url doesn't change

because the db wants unique urls, so the update db thing fails

but the code doesn't check for an error, let alone do anything about

but in reality it should delete the url and reference the existing

exactly

hmm

lower*

:P

and there are a bunch of amazon urls I want to be able to fix

yup, you're right nikki, it silently fails to add the alias on merge

brb, linux time

Is there a list of who's doing what with the Google Summer of Code?

BrianFreud: the script finished.

how's it look?

please look and help me check mb.homeip.net

I'm putting together a blog post right now

np, you still have that list of releases up?

do you know the bug numbers that related to this issue?

yes

hmmm, http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3581 (closed)

probably http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/2515

that it!

also can close http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/1693

please close that one.

looks like that's all of them

could I get a link to that list?

users.mb.org/~robert/migrate.html;

sans ;

danke

brb

YES! :D

ok, took 4 hours walking backwards from function to function, but I actually managed to find where GC reads the data in :D

lol, /me says again for ru's benefit

YES! :D

lol, /me says again for ru's benefit

ok, took 4 hours walking backwards from function to function, but I actually managed to find where GC reads the data in :D

lol

ruaok, I've checked a good few dozen, all that should have them look good, all that shouldn't, it's not there - looks like 100% correct

killer, thanks.

np

I'll see if any other feedback trickles in. if not I'll run the script on thursday or friday.

ruaok: mind taking a look at this? :) http://users.musicbrainz.org/~brianfreud/enter....

nikki, if you're up still, that one's your fullwidth ticket

ooh

what do you think nikki?

ok, turns out it was my faked up editsuite.js build, not the patch - the corrected editsuite.js is now up, so http://users.musicbrainz.org/~brianfreud/enter.... works right

BrianFreud: heh, here's something messed up: http://lmfao.org.uk/hwfw.png

wierd :p

I think code2002 is a bit buggy, but ms pgothic is remarkably similar in width to normal fonts

you can tell the difference if you put normal and fullwidth next to each other, but on its own, it doesn't stand out

so i think my isp is blocking my access to a particular website

which website?

more like what website

if you know what i mean

haha

I think I got it

still no luck? Same isp, no issues here...

sucks :/

i can get on it on my ipod, and other computers in my house but not my box

even tried booting off of a live cd

tired bypassing all network gear too

you check to see if maybe you'd ip forwarded it in your router and forgotten, or something wierd like that?

nah, i don't do anything like that

i tried a cable straight from my pc to the modem

can't ping it or anything.. it dosen't exist

I get wierd ping results for it too - the ip ping gives isn't valid. but my browers has no issues

i was able to post to a moderator on the site and they told me that my dns server is getting the right ip address

they suggest i go on their irc channel, but i of course an't access is since it's on the same server

Down with DRM!

further proof of DRM = bad: MSN's turning off the PlaysForSure and MSN Music authorization servers for good in Aug: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080422-d...

okay so this is definitely *not* good news: Sony Corporation of America is acquiring GraceN**e

Ewww! Gross!

MBChatLogger: you don't like gracenote? :)

I'm logging. I don't understand 'you don't like gracenote? :)', Senilix. Try /msg MBChatLogger help

MBChatLogger: off

is not logging

is logging

yllona: what is your take on the sony purchase.

?

mikemorr: GC is integrated with a number of online music sevices, most notably itunes

ruaok: it's sony america, not sony BMG, so that's important

MrQwerty` is now known as MrQwerty

it will continue to be run as a separate entity, also important

and no matter what you think of sony as a corporation, they have some of the best engineering in the world

so look for a GC-type thing to be embedded on sony consumer devices

*that* is a great insight.

so then the consumer devices will be able to get messy data too, amazing!

with obvious implications for our friends in Monrovia.

lol

Ewww! Gross!

and here's the confirmation:, from siliconalletyinsider: "Gracenote is now making most of its money from deals with auto companies, which bundle the service in with high-end audio packages. So we're assuming here that Sony sees the value of bundling Gracenote with its own electronics business -- which is of course vastly bigger than its middling music company."

do we need to add Sony to the chatlogger list now? :O

BrianFreud: no, as i said above GC will continue to be a wholly separate subsidiary -- for now

and sony pieces, parts and components are *everywhere*, and in *everything*

I have respect for their hardware, but some of their other divisions leave me very unimpressed

there's also the professional audio and video stuff, TV/Film/radio/cable satellite -- again sony components are everywhere

I don't even have respect for their hardware anymore

I feel they've coasted on the reputation of quality while the playing field has narrowed greatly

I dont buy sony products anymore.

dholmes_: there's an enormous difference between sony consumer products and sony professional components

yllona: I don't doubt it. The professional stuff doesn't mean much to most people, though.

ruaok: you may be purchasing sony pieces and parts and not even no it. do you know who the mfg is for internal components of your microwave for instance?

or your TV, or even your electric shaver?

I hate the evil empire

yllona: Microsoft could be making the chips for all I care; it's the quality of assembly I more care about.

no, and I strictly refer to the shit that has their name on it.

*not even know it, sorry

yeah, sony consumer products have dropped in quality especially at the mid-range purchase price

but $260MM is a lot of money to devote to engineering

was it an all cash deal?

"The senior management team will remain with the company. The company’s tech and services are used in Apple (NSDQ: AAPL) iTunes, Winamp, Panasonic, Philips and Sony, and on the mobile music side by players such as from Samsung, Sony Ericsson (NSDQ: ERIC), and others."

"for about $260 million and more depending on earnout. The deal is expected to close in May."

Ewww! Gross!

"Philips and Fraunhofer had equity position in Gracenote because of the technology that Gracenote either bought or licensed over the years. Other institutional investors over the years (over five rounds) included Sequoia Capital, Bessemer Venture Partners and others."

to the tune of $120M mind you.

For a $260M payout, that's nothing.

piss poor multiple.

yep.

Ewww! Gross!

"Gracenote would probably bring in around $40 million in revenues this year (separate from its revenue bookings which could be much larger)."

you know, apart from their work on mp3 in 1994, I have never heard anything else about Fraunhofer, except them raking in money from deals stemming from mp3s. Have they been coasting all this time on their mp3 patent?

and MPEG-4, especially AAC