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      • xlotlu_
        xlotlu_ is now known as xlotlu
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      • pbryan
        warp
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      • warp
        yes!
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      • nikki
        hey warp!
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      • alastairp
        time warp!
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      • pbryan
        warp: sent you a bunch of PMs (did you see 'em?)
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      • brianfreud_
        pronik`, aCiD2`: I've merged your two branches. aCiD2, I had to manually merge some of the form changes, as git missed them. Just checking every page I can, I've found the following ones with issues.
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      • brianfreud_
        I've pushed my latest, with both your latest commits, to github.
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      • brianfreud_
        The list of problem pages I've found is http://musicbrainz.pastebin.com/m9093a2b
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      • brianfreud_
        Some won't load, due to older (and fixed) issues, on test.
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      • warp
        pbryan: i did now :)
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      • warp
        nikki: hi!
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      • warp
        nikki: i'm glad i didn't preorder the koda kumi cd+2dvd album. the bonus track is annoying and the album as a whole doesn't grab me the way the previous two did.
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      • warp
        nikki (or someone else), can i get a no here? http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=10013653
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      • nikki
        ah right
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      • nikki wonders what you think about http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=10042990
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      • warp
        eh? removing a valid ASIN?
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      • warp
        mp3 versions not showing covers is just a bug, no reason not to make the links.
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      • nikki
        I think they want to remove the mp3 one in order to have cover art from the cd one
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      • warp
        as long as they add it back later then :)
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      • nikki
        that's my opinion too, but people seem to be obsessed about seeing the cover art
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      • nikki
        hah! like they'll remember ¬_¬
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      • warp
        i've added a comment saying that.
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      • nikki
        but what do you mean by later?
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      • warp
        as soon as the edits have gone through and the cover art has appeared.
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      • nikki
        but adding that asin back will just break it again
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      • nikki wonders how to find out how much ram her macbook really does support
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      • nikki
        I checked the apple website and found people saying 3gb, 3.3gb and 4gb
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      • nikki
        so now I have no idea
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      • warp
        nikki: will it?
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      • nikki
        I don't see why it would work if it doesn't work now
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      • warp
        nikki: i thought musicbrainz would stick to the the cover art from the first ASIN added
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      • nikki
        nope
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      • nikki
        it doesn't use the last one either
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      • warp
        wtf? which one does it use?
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      • nikki
        ime it uses the last asin when sorted alphabetically, but I haven't proved that
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      • warp
        ok.. then my comment is wrong.
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      • nikki has been correcting so many people lately :P
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      • dasjoe
        My WD TV finally arrived :)
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      • dasjoe disassembles
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      • nikki
        :o
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      • nikki puts dasjoe back together again
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      • dasjoe
        :o
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      • warp
        voted no.
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      • dasjoe
        Probably not much luck in finding JTAG or something else that's interesting :(
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      • nikki
        it doesn't help that nobody has a clue how the cover art really works (including the people who wrote it :P), plus the behaviour has changed a few times... I think people just remember one of the explanations they heard and tell other people that until everyone's confused... that's why I keep stressing that I'm not *certain* that that's the actual behaviour :P
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      • dasjoe
        Is Mac OS X a 32 or 64 bit OS?
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      • pbryan
        nikki: I still remember. :)
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      • pbryan voted yes (for now), and asked for clarification in the edit.
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      • pbryan
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      • dasjoe
        So it's basically a 32 bit system which supports 64 bit apps but without support for >4GB RAM. Due to the adress space adressable RAM maxes out at ~3.2 GB, even when you've got 4 GB in there
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      • pbryan
        Heh, sounds right.
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      • pbryan
        Some older chipsets on 64-bit platforms could only address 3 GB too.
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      • nikki thinks it depends how hard you throw it
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      • nikki
        obviously you get more bits if you throw it harder
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      • nikki nods wisely :P
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      • MClemo
        :D
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      • nikki
        so I'm better off getting 2gb and 1gb, rather than two 2gb ones, I guess
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      • MClemo
        you had 2*512mb before?
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      • nikki
        I still do
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      • MClemo
        err, sure. Working without any RAM is difficult ;)
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      • srotta
        Ummm, OSX has 4GB limit?
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      • srotta
        That doesn't sound right.
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      • srotta
        (They sell Pro with 32GB of memory, I'd bet someone would notice if it didn't work with that)
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      • nikki
        but this isn't a pro one, just the normal one
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      • nikki
        from 2007
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      • srotta
        The operating system is the same, though.
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      • Milosz
        you can use more than 4GB with 32bit with PAE
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      • nikki
        this one seems to be the same as mine http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID…
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      • neomaq
        hi
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      • neomaq
        someone alive?
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      • luks
        nope, all dead
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      • luks
        hi :)
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      • neomaq
        can i ask few questions about cron scripts ?
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      • luks
        cron scripts related to musicbrainz?
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      • neomaq
        yes
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      • luks
        sure
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      • neomaq
        from which user hourly job must be run ?
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      • luks
        any user
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      • luks
        hm, actually some of scruots might be writing to the htdocs directory
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      • neomaq
        how i can check replication results?
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      • nikki is also wondering about http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=9995876
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      • nikki
        the guy is claiming to be the guy from the band, and says he never married the other person... and the link which was used as proof originally doesn't seem to contain the stuff it did back then
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      • nikki
        but I don't speak russian :/
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      • warp
        hmm
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      • neomaq i speak russian
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      • neomaq
        can translate something
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      • nikki
        well, I was mostly looking for something which says those two people are married
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      • nikki
        I kinda think I'd prefer to remove something if it's questionable... like wikipedia has problems with people putting fictional things in articles about real people
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      • nikki also thinks that people shouldn't be saying that they'll only change their votes if the other person speaks english ¬_¬
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      • srotta
        Well, why would they change the vote if the argument is illegible?
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      • nikki
        how do they know how they should vote if they can't understand the argument?
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      • srotta
        I probably wouldn't vote on that sort of edit, but I can understand the reasoning.
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      • srotta
        So the votes should go through?
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      • srotta
        Edits, I mean.
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      • nikki
        I don't know, I don't speak russian to research it myself :P
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      • nikki
        but like I said, I think I'd prefer to not include info like that if it's questionable
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      • nikki
        I mean... how on earth is the guy supposed to prove he *didn't* marry someone?
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      • srotta
        Providing he is the guy. ;)
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      • nikki
        well, anyone, how do they prove someone didn't marry someone?
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      • srotta
        Yeah, that is a problem in general, proving something didn't happen or doesn't exist is much harder than the other way round.
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      • neomaq
        waterwind post translation: (sorry for poor english): "on my opinion information about group must be pumped from official sources(for exam. from oficial siteof band "waterwind", but not from suspicious sources. Also i must not reporting about self to anyone- then i married and divorced"
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      • nikki
        so he did marry and then get divorced?
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      • xlotlu
        i particularly enjoy the last part :)
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      • warp
        nikki: you have a convincing argument, commented and voted accordingly.
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      • neomaq
        there is no info about WHAT hi did, i am look at official site of "melnitsa"
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      • warp
        ah
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      • xlotlu
        i do wonder however.... why would MB need such ARs?
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      • nikki
        you could question a lot of our relationships :P
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      • srotta
        Particularly if we stick to official sites, we can remove quite a lot of ARs :P
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      • xlotlu
        Mr. X f*cked Mrs. Y from january 2009 to february 2009...
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      • nikki
        constantly? :o
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      • nikki
        they must be pretty tired :o
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      • warp
        lol
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      • nikki
        we do have 'was involved with' though
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      • warp
        we do? wow.
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      • xlotlu
        no, really. how's that relevant to musicbrainz?
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      • xlotlu
        leave the crap to the media and wikipedia...
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      • warp
        xlotlu: i expect it often does affect the music of the artists involved.
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      • nikki
        the only ones I've ever used that I know of are sibling ones
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      • nikki
        hmm...
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      • nikki
        how will we translate relationships?
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      • nikki
        there are quite a few which barely work in english, they have no hope in other languages...
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      • xlotlu
        warp: jean michel jarre composed geometry of love while being head over heels for isabelle adjani
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      • xlotlu
        while that's probably quite relevant for the outcome, i find it simply irrelevant for MB
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      • warp
        I mean, if both persons involved are musicicians (they should be, otherwise one of them shouldn't be in the DB usually), you will in some cases hear the influences from one of them in the work of the other.
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      • warp
        xlotlu: in your example, isabelle is not really a participant other than perhaps as a muse.
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      • neomaq
        nikki in official sources no information about marriage Den Skurida and Maria Larina, but strange in some source she acts as Maria Skurida, but not on http://waterwind.ru/
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      • warp
        ooh, a muse AR! ;)
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      • xlotlu
        warp: maybe she was humming what turned into the album theme when getting naked out of the shower...
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      • warp
        xlotlu: haha, ok
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      • warp
        xlotlu: anyway, for me that is enough to make it relevant to MB.
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      • xlotlu
        or maybe a falling brick hit jarre in the head at the time, so he got the idea for his music. and his infatuation with adjani was coincidental
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      • nikki
        neomaq: thanks
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      • Milosz
        hey nikki do you know Mansfield? the band
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      • srotta
        xlotlu: So you're saying we should have image attributes for relationship ARs?
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      • Milosz
        it's japanese so i figured.. maybe you do