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      • nikki
        bah
      • 2009-04-01 09138, 2009

      • nikki gets to work on a belated devel chat summary
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      • ruaok
        its still tuesday here. getting it done the next day is spot on me thinks. :)
      • 2009-04-01 09102, 2009

      • nikki
        how much longer have I got then? :P
      • 2009-04-01 09132, 2009

      • nikki
        I was hoping to do it while the chat was happening like last week, but dinner screwed that up
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      • navap
        Just over an hour ;)
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      • ruaok nods
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      • nikki
        it's a lot easier to do while the discussion is happening, I'll say that.
      • 2009-04-01 09103, 2009

      • ruaok
        thats how I feel about blogging conferences.
      • 2009-04-01 09120, 2009

      • nikki
        sent!
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      • ruaok
        senf?
      • 2009-04-01 09113, 2009

      • ruaok
        oh, wait. I'm just hungry again.
      • 2009-04-01 09110, 2009

      • nikki
        you'd need something put it on, it wouldn't be very filling on its own...
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      • ruaok
        like a knackwurst.
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      • ruaok
        or the habanero sausage I have here. :-)
      • 2009-04-01 09150, 2009

      • nikki
        heheh
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      • chefkoch_
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      • navap
        Wow quite a bit of stuff gets talked about in an hour, that must have taken quite some time/effort to write up.
      • 2009-04-01 09158, 2009

      • navap wonders if maybe there should be a page (on the wiki?) with a link to each dev chat log/summary.
      • 2009-04-01 09134, 2009

      • navap
        Although, they're not really hiding in the mailing list archive I suppose, so maybe thats not needed.
      • 2009-04-01 09133, 2009

      • nikki
        it took me almost an hour :P
      • 2009-04-01 09143, 2009

      • nikki
        so as much time to do as it took the original bloody chat :P
      • 2009-04-01 09100, 2009

      • nikki
        which is why I prefer doing it while it's happening, only takes about 10 minutes to clean up then
      • 2009-04-01 09102, 2009

      • navap
        Which is why making it during the chat is probably a lot easier.
      • 2009-04-01 09105, 2009

      • navap
        Ya
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      • ruaok
        nikki: are you still planning to write Proposed_Wiki_Structure ?
      • 2009-04-01 09111, 2009

      • nikki
        yes
      • 2009-04-01 09112, 2009

      • ruaok
        zout is bugging me because earlier in the chat I agreed to kick something off.
      • 2009-04-01 09123, 2009

      • ruaok
        but then you showed up and we got the ball rolling.
      • 2009-04-01 09128, 2009

      • ruaok
        k. I'll respond to zout.
      • 2009-04-01 09118, 2009

      • ruaok
        I cc'ed you.
      • 2009-04-01 09158, 2009

      • nikki got it
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      • ruaok
        zout seems to be chompin at the bit.
      • 2009-04-01 09129, 2009

      • nikki only has two (rather cold) hands :P
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      • nikki
        I have to keep stopping to warm them up again or they hurt :/
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      • ruaok
        I'm not rushing. :)
      • 2009-04-01 09159, 2009

      • ruaok hands a hot cup of earl grey to nikki
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      • nikki
        danke!
      • 2009-04-01 09136, 2009

      • ruaok
        in diffing the output from the TT webservice I'm finding all sorts of bugs in the old web service.
      • 2009-04-01 09141, 2009

      • ruaok
        makes diffing harder.
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      • catgroove
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      • catgroove
        :D
      • 2009-04-01 09156, 2009

      • catgroove
        goo morning musicbrainz, slept well?
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      • ruaok
        sleep soon!
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      • nikki wonders if ruaok is asleep yet
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      • ruaok
        yes, but still hacking.
      • 2009-04-01 09128, 2009

      • nikki
        does this mean anything to you?: Error: Target org.macports.install returned: error copying "/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_aqua_qt4-mac/work/destroot/opt/local/libexec/qt4-mac/lib/libQtCLucene.4.4.dylib" to "/opt/local/var/macports/software/qt4-mac/4.4.3_1/opt/local/libexec/qt4-mac/lib/libQtCLucene.4.4.dylib": invalid argument
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      • nikki is trying to get picard running from source on a mac :/
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      • ruaok
        thats a punishing job. :(
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      • ruaok
        obvious things first: you've updated your macports ?
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      • ruaok
        port selfupdate IIRC
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      • nikki looks shifty and goes to try that
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      • ruaok
        ha! only WS enhancements pending now. all bugs have been squashed.
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      • nikki
        selfupdate didn't help
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      • ruaok
        sometimes cleaning and retrying helps, but in this case, its a big package.
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      • ruaok
        have you googled the error code?
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      • nikki
        yeah, didn't find anything
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      • nikki
        how do I clean it anyway?
      • 2009-04-01 09132, 2009

      • ruaok
        port clean <package>
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      • nikki
        gaaah. stupid useless error messages.
      • 2009-04-01 09120, 2009

      • ruaok
        yeah, macports has some really good ones.
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      • nikki
        is there a way to remove everything it installed as dependencies and do the whole lot again?
      • 2009-04-01 09136, 2009

      • RifRaf
        we just had 450mm of rain in 24 hours :/ , and no power for 2 days
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      • ruaok
        45cm?
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      • RifRaf
        yep
      • 2009-04-01 09123, 2009

      • ruaok
        holy fuck? where is this?
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      • RifRaf
        some parts had over 600
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      • RifRaf
        coffs harbour nsw
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      • RifRaf
        australia
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      • ruaok
        I guess the draught is over. welcome to flooding.
      • 2009-04-01 09150, 2009

      • RifRaf
        caused rather a flood no less
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      • RifRaf
        we had a day with 35cm last month, we have lotsa water
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      • catgroove
        yea, some person on gopets where locked in their house :x
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      • catgroove
        she wassared :(
      • 2009-04-01 09102, 2009

      • catgroove
        scared
      • 2009-04-01 09109, 2009

      • alastairp
        RifRaf: nicely done
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      • alastairp
        RifRaf: are you out in the wops?
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      • alastairp
        i.e. did they get power back to the cities first
      • 2009-04-01 09107, 2009

      • LotR
        hehe. "coffs harbour not safe (for) work" :)
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      • RifRaf
        alastairp yeah been flooded in, but went to help a freind save his house all night
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      • RifRaf
        am on a hill in, so it runs through but does not biuld up, river still way up
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      • RifRaf
        alastairp they just took a long time to get to the fault, was over river and had to get helicopter to get the workers in
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      • alastairp
        I seem to recall this happening to you only a few months back :)
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      • alastairp
        RifRaf: right
      • 2009-04-01 09109, 2009

      • RifRaf
        yep less than 6 weeks, but this one is worse, we are a disaster zone, 1000's still trapped
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      • alastairp
        :-/
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      • RifRaf
        so nice to have lights again and be dry
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      • RifRaf
        is still pouring outside
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      • RifRaf
        and internet :)
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      • alastairp
        heh
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      • alastairp
        good luck
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      • RifRaf
        was seriously weird to see that much water come from the sky though
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      • RifRaf
        well they predict another 150mm overnight so storm still not over
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      • RifRaf
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      • RifRaf
        a freinds place, normally at least 10 meters above river, it did go higher than that later
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      • RifRaf
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      • alastairp
        last big flood we had was the manawatu ones in 04
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      • alastairp
        it's about time for another one
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      • catgroove
        and people think there is no enviromental showdown. tsk
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      • catgroove
        *some people*
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      • catgroove
        rif: that's a *lot* of water
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      • catgroove
        i only hope that it wont rain up here now the snow's all melting, cause that's flood city too
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      • RifRaf
        catgroove indeed it was an amazing amount
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      • RifRaf
        the city streets and shops were all flooded in town here
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      • catgroove
        :s
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      • voiceinsideyou
        does anyone know if it's possible to make MediaWiki do multi-level redirects?
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      • nikki
        multi-level redirects?
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      • Milosz
        how large is the current server's database?
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      • voiceinsideyou
        well the migration has created redirections AdvancedRelationshipType -> Advanced Relationship Type , but if I change "Advanced Relationship Type" to redirect to "Category:Advanced Relationship Type" and then visit "AdvancedRelationshipType" it won't redirect all teh way through to the category
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      • voiceinsideyou
        so i'm wondering if now I have to go back through all the camel case redirect pages and change them as well >_<
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      • Wizzcat
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      • Wizzcat
        seems not
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      • Wizzcat
        only 16 of them though
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      • FauxFaux
        Milosz: Which database? The one with the actual MB data in, or the wiki, or..?
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      • FauxFaux
        (On disc? In rows, tables..?)
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      • Milosz
        FauxFaux, on disk, the MB data
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      • Milosz
        I just wondered how feasible it would be to create a quick-deploy system for the server for users
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      • Milosz
        Basically, and I don't know if that sounds heretic or not, a Debian package that installs and sets everything up as needed, and then the people only need to download the actual server data
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      • FauxFaux
        Nah, it's multliple gigabytes, even without indexes (which takes ages).
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      • FauxFaux
        The minimum you need to download from mb to get current set-up is, like, 600mb.
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      • Milosz
        OK it's not for everyday users