#musicbrainz

So what are we doing about an archival namespace, pages that deal with TRMs definitely don't need to be in the wiki anymore, but deleting them isn't really necessary either. After all we keep all the ML archives.

I think if we keep some bits that we used to use TRM thats fine. but we can nuke the other pages.

there is history and then there is clutter :-)

Trying to use SMART-SVN on Mac to create a patch for two files, but one file is brand new so it wont let me create a patch, anyone know what Im meant to do ?

ruaok: could we just rewrite some main "Musicbrainz History" page and delete all the rest?

ijabz: you should be able to svn add the new file to your local repo.

then svn diff will include the file.

pronik: sure

I personally haven't see the "great disaster" and I'd like to read a small paragraph about it, not several pages of "relief" docs...

the less I am reminded of that, the better.

same goes for any kind of history, actually. Integration and removal

it interferes severely with search -- always finding some stupid "glorious history" article...

Someone has to do the integration though.

That's true.

ruaok:cheers, got it

ruaok: btw, I've sent out the mail

saw it, thanks.

oh jeez.... "History_Of_Featuring_Artist_Style"? Why, for God's sake?

"dick skin" That's a phrase I haven't heard before.

damn

pronik: to stop people bitching, whining and rehashing old conversations on the MLs? Oh. Wait.

navap: that should be thick, correcting right away

lol okay :)

Muz: I assume I can estimate the amount of bithing that proposal will produce, so I tried to temper that

There's a reason I barely bother with the style list these days.

pronik's coming onto Timothy's dick skin.

OLOLOLOLOL

I need some one-click way to propose wiki articles for deletion....

Go write a bash script.

yeah, right, with what API? ;)

ruaok: what's up with musicmoz lately? (strolling through old wiki pages ;))

Who says you need one? If you can make HTTP calls to it, and you've got curl installed, you're set.

Phew, just went and deleted 14 articles from the deletion list and edited their linked pages.

yay

yay indeed

aCiD2: ping

pongogogogog

I want to run release-groups on test

but I'm not sure how you have things configged right now.

one sec.

ah

just do /etc/init.d/musicbrainz-fastcgi stop

and stop apache2

ok, that helps a lot. :)

damn, don't we have some other test.mb server?

or better: subdomain?

ruaok probably meant ' we have two more instances of TT running on test.musicbrainz.org '

we have two more instances of TT running on test.mb.org

I'd like to have the last non-ngs-broken tt version somewhere

:3000?

81

yeah.

3000 is BF, I think.

pronik: why?

nope, no 3000 - there's 81 and 82

to draw mockups before they are redone

but they seem to be down...

shouldn't you be drawing mockups for the non-existant site?

yes, but I want to start from the current state, also to get a better feeling of current shortcomings

oh well, I could start my copy anyway...

aCiD2: I took them down.

and that grand plan will not work.

DBD::Pg version conflicts.

ah

I never have any trouble with dbd::pg

I do.

well, test can go back to TT on may24.

:) problem with arrays?

yes

cool

[23:17] <pronik> ruaok: could we just rewrite some main "Musicbrainz History" page and delete all the rest? that's what i was thinking. include a lot of the glorious history bits ito a age "musicbrainz history"

GoCatMachine: yes?

yes, i agree

that's what i was thinking. include a lot of the glorious history bits ito a age "musicbrainz history"

into a page

i need to purchase a can of air for this keyboard, i can't turn the laptop upside down and start wacking hard

it can break it

:)

it needs a bit more content :)

yes

unfortunatly i don't know the earliest things, and well.. i am not really good at writing consize bits

there are bits i don't know

behind the shenes cra about the geat debate and what not

oh and anybody remember SG5?

There actually is a page called "MusicBrainz History" btw.

yea i know

you could at least extract the bits from other unneeded articles and put them in there

needs improvement.

there should be a page which lists all lthe templates we have too

Special:AllPages

pronik: dood. don't tell me, i am the guy that worked on the wiki all thuesday :p

no i mean a page which has all the templates inline, maybe a text or wne to use it, i'd like that

"at least" meaning "no need to rewrite, let's collect first"

after i finish with this task, i'll go look at the wiki

What do you mean has them inline?

indead, first collect and gather info, then procede to pice togheter

uh

as on one page

Arent they all on one page on that link?

nevermind, i'll make a thingy of it on a subpage to show whati mean

tomorow, it's getting late here and i need to get to bed i na good time, to stop the neigbours from collecting more shit on me

lol I just deleted the wiki article that was used in MoinMoin to list all the templates, please don't create a new one :)

moinmoin hadtemplates?

loi

Use http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/?title=Special%3AAl... instead.

XD-> http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Bad_MoinMoin_WikiName

loi glorious history

oh! what about pages like http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Same_Artist_With_Di... with the stuff ontop?

do we need that?

discussion and edit are both links on the top of the page

navap probably meant ' Those are for the pages when they're displayed on musicbrainz.org/doc/Same_Artist_With_Different_... '

Those are for the pages when they're displayed on mb.org/doc/Same_Artist_With_Different_Names

ehh

404'd!

Take out the underscores.

/doc points to oldwiki

does the doc page need to have those things? . i believe that mediawiki has some mojo that lets you includenoly for things

so we could include only on doc pages

because on the editable wiki they're clutter, imho