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      • dinog1
        question for anyone more knowledgeable about this
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      • dinog1
        when creating wikipedia album AR's for a film soundtrack, does the wikipedia page have to be explicitly about the album and nothing else, or could it be the wiki page for the film if it contains information about the soundtrack (ie. dates + track listing)?
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      • luks
        dinog1: page for the film with info about soundtrack is ok
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      • luks
        dinog1: but people usually don't like pages just about the film
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      • dinog1
        alright luks. thanks.
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      • AnMaster
        I have two computers: a desktop and a laptop... When I log in to MB from either it seems I'm automatically logged out from the other one
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      • AnMaster
        rather annoying
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      • AnMaster
        any way to prevent that?
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      • AnMaster
        I realise that *usually* the current behaviour is desired for security reasons
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      • AnMaster
        how does one find the label code when adding a new label?
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      • AnMaster
        if one exists?
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      • AnMaster
        should label names include any "Inc." or "Ltd." (or similar local variant)?
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      • warp
        AnMaster: that automatically logging out doesn't happen for me, do you have 'Only from this IP address' checked when logging in?
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      • warp
        AnMaster: yes, "Inc." or "Ltd." should be included if it is used consistently by the label.
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      • warp
        AnMaster: if the label sometimes includes, and sometimes doesn't, I would probably leave it off.
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      • warp
        +it
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      • AnMaster
        warp, about "only from this ip": yes, but since I use both behind the same NAT this souldn't matter as far as I can see
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      • warp
        depends on which IP it stuffs in the cookie :)
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      • AnMaster
        you mean it sets it to the private ip?
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      • warp
        that would be weird, but I didn't write the code :)
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      • warp
        in any case, I don't have that checked because I like te remain logged in both at work and at home.
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      • nikki_
        try not using the 'only from this ip' setting
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      • nikki_
        if you still get logged out, at least you've ruled that out :P
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      • AnMaster
        should the inc./ltd./* be included in sort name too?
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      • warp
        AnMaster: even without storing the private IP, it may be some other cookie stealing protection which ties the cookie to a specific browser.
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      • AnMaster
        label I'm about to add is "International Masters Publishers BV", "BV" being like "Inc." but for the Netherlands.
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      • warp
        besloten vennootschap
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      • warp
        or something :)
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      • AnMaster
        huh?
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      • AnMaster
        well I don't know the language there
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      • warp is dutch
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      • srotta_
        AnMaster: I usually don't add those Ltd/Inc/etc.
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      • srotta_
        srotta_ is now known as srotta
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      • AnMaster
        srotta, they seem to use it on the CD sleeves at least
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      • srotta
        Yeah, but in what purpose?
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      • srotta
        "Label" is different from company name, and we should store the former, not the latter. And yes, the line is thin and problematic.
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      • warp
        srotta: does it matter? they consider it part of their name, so we should use it.
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      • srotta
        warp: If it's really used consistently everywhere, then sure.
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      • warp
        exactly, so include it unless you see the name used without it somewhere.
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      • srotta
        That whole label thing hasn't really worked the way it should have. But that's the way it goes :P
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      • AnMaster
        what is the date field for labels used for?
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      • AnMaster
        wait, nm... can only be when company was founded/went bankrupt
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      • warp
        srotta: why not?
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      • srotta
        warp: One problem is the business entities vs. labels.
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      • srotta
        warp: Another is regional vs. global labels.
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      • warp
        ah, right.
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      • srotta
        Those are probably the most confusing aspects.
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      • warp
        I tend to work mostly where a label is just a single entity with only their own name as an imprint, so I rarely encounter problems.
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      • srotta
        Yeah, smaller labels are easy to handle. Well, usually.
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      • srotta
        Although some manage to make quite a mess out of themselves. :D
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      • warp
        haha
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      • pronik`
        when transliterating names for sort names, is it ok to use scientific transliteration?
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      • pronik`
        pronik` is now known as pronik
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      • neothe0ne
        fuck yes, i finally got a foobar copy script to give me URL's which get parsed right by AddRelease
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      • neothe0ne
        add Clusters as release in MB is broken with unicode artists or soemthing.
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      • neothe0ne
        whoops
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      • neothe0ne
        i got so caught up in excitement i added the WRONG ALBUM
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      • nikki_
        IIRC the problem with the clusters thing is to do with the way windows handles long urls (or rather, doesn't handle...)
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      • nikki_
        nikki_ is now known as nikki
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      • nikki
        I seem to recall some workaround which involved letting the user copy and paste the url, but it's not like I use windows so I don't really remember
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      • neothe0ne
        Apache Server at www.musicbrainz.org Port 80
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      • neothe0ne
        cant add a 99 track Unicode release by url ;_;
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      • nikki
        I'm sure you must be very familiar with that problem :P
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      • brianfreud
        yeah, I've run into and mentioned that one before :)
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      • brianfreud
        there's no great workaround
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      • neothe0ne
        http://pastebin.com/f38515897 <-- pastebin changed my unicode characters
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      • brianfreud
        only thing I've done, when I really didn't want to type a lot all over, was to find redundant bits in the data, shrink them ("Tom the long Foo Bar" --> "~1~"), then use search/replace after the editall loads to undo the shrinking
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      • neothe0ne
        that definitely wont fit in the URL bar lol, but with unicode it does
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      • nikki
        hmm... the plugin already has all the data it needs, so it should be possible to make an altered one which gives people something they can paste into the track parser (and then pray the track parser can parse it)
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      • jacckk
        Is there anyway to see what the upgrade script is doing, its been sitting at ALTER TABLE for ages.
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      • luks
        many ALTER TABLEs in a row?
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      • jacckk
        what? :)
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      • luks
        whether it's a single ALTER TABLE command or not
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      • luks
        there isn't a simple way what is the script doing
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      • luks
        +to see
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      • jacckk
        Ah i see, just its been sitting there for hours now. I've looked at "ps auxww | grep ^postgres" and it just says its doing something with DELETE
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      • luks
        what hardware are you running it on?
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      • jacckk
        well its a virtual server, 1gb ram assigned and the host has 4x2ghz processors (not sure on specific model)
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      • luks
        disk speed is most likely the problem than (I assume you are using a virtual disk image for the DB)
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      • luks
        it shouldn't take hours normally
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      • jacckk
        yeah i am
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      • aCiD2
        ruaok around?
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      • luks
        go away
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      • ruaok
        someone need banning?
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      • danderson
        Anon8121: to be more blunt: fuck off
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      • danderson
        ruaok: Anon8121 seems to want it, yeah.
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      • danderson
        Anon8121: we won't, no point in continuing.
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      • luks
        you will be stopped :)