#musicbrainz

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      • aCiD2
        Anyone know an OSX utility to dump all the metadata about an mp3?
      • iTunes somehow manages to change the md5 of my mp3,even if I chmod 400 on it and make it readonly :S
      • alastairp
        albumidentify has some helper scripts if you have python installed
      • nikki
        I use mid3v2 from mutagen
      • alastairp
        I use eyeD3 as well (python too)
      • aCiD2
        thanks, i'll check them out
      • nikki
        yeah, and that
      • aCiD2
        I thought about whipping something up with mutagen
      • alastairp
        ours is written from scratch
      • which throws up all sorts of weird stuff that other apps out in
      • put in
      • aCiD2
        mid3v2 shows no changes :(
      • FauxFaux
        It's probably just applying replaygain to the audio data.
      • alastairp
        *twitch*
      • aCiD2
        lame --decode has the glitch in too :'(
      • WTF is iTunes doing to my music
      • alastairp
        what process are you doing?
      • cd->mp3?
      • aCiD2
        Frame# 11/4303 192 kbps MS bitstream problem: resyncing...
      • Flac -> wav -> wavegain -> lame --scale > picard > iTunes
      • it's completely fine before iTunes
      • alastairp
        right
      • why are you wavegaining?
      • aCiD2
        here's the really weird shit bit. Open it in iTunes before tagging, plays fine. Tag it in picard, and double click in iTunes - plays fine, refreshes metadata
      • remove it from iTunes and re-add it, pop gets added
      • alastairp
        tried not adding gain yet?
      • aCiD2
        Wavegain is mainly there because my vinyl always comes out at different volumes due to the normalizing process
      • alastairp
        or add it with mp3gain instead
      • aCiD2
        wavegain doesn't affect the files
      • it just gives the --scale value for lame
      • alastairp
        oh, so it does end up as an mp3gain?
      • aCiD2
        Nope, it directly alters the data that lame encodes
      • (lame amplifies it internally)
      • alastairp
        Use with care, since most MP3 decoders will truncate data which decodes to values greater than 32768.
      • --scale sounds scary
      • aCiD2
        I scale down, not up :)
      • alastairp
        right
      • aCiD2
        scale is capped to 1.0
      • nikki
        and it worked fine for me with the same mp3s
      • aCiD2
        I gave this mp3 to briang and nikki, and neither could reproduce it
      • it's just my iTunes that fucks it up :/
      • alastairp
        fun
      • aCiD2
        I don't think I uploaded a broken mp3, here's one : http://www.sendspace.com/file/mjyfwu
      • I just don't get how iTunes can modify it, when I've done chmod 400 on the file... I thought that meant that nothing could touch it, and only my user could read it?
      • yet somehow, the md5 still changes :/
      • alastairp
        weird
      • awesome
      • aCiD2
        Oh well, dragging files into iTunes doesn't seem to break them (only "add to library" breaks them0
      • so I guess this is solution enough to get my crap onto my iPod
      • nikki
        hmm, I think I dragged them into itunes
      • nikki tries using add to library
      • aCiD2
        double clicking them works too, it's just add to library that seems to fudge them
      • nikki
        hmm... add to library doesn't do it either
      • but then again I'm using 8.whatever, so who knows...
      • aCiD2
        but 8 still has the gapless thingy
      • which is what I think is the problem
      • nikki
        gapless thingy?
      • aCiD2
        gapless playback analysis
      • when you add to library it spends 2 years freezing itunes saying "analyzing gapless playback information" or something
      • nikki doesn't use itunes (hence why I've still got an older version, I don't care since I'm not using it ;))
      • nikki
        hmm
      • aCiD2
        you know what. fuck this. dragging them in is now corrupting them too -_-
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      • fupp
        what's in mbdump-stats.tar.bz2 ?
      • ah, looks like total number of tracks and stuff like that
      • nikki
        stats, basically :P
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      • Remosi
        Any chance of getting an AR (or equivilent) to store when a recording was made? While the bootleg naming convention says you can use a date in the title, not everything uses it
      • There are lots of albums like: Unknown year for u'The Cure' u"... and Dreams Come True in '92 (disc 2)"
      • where the year is unambiguous, but there is no fixed metadata stating it
      • alastairp
        should there be a release event for it?
      • that would make it clear, but there may not have been a physical release
      • Remosi
        yeah, I don't think many of these were officially releaed
      • thus no release date
      • dinog
        if an artist is credited as "featured" inside the booklet, but not on the tracklist on the back cover of the CD, is adding "(feat.
      • )'s" necessary to the track title's necessary?
      • as opposed to just adding AR's
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      • alastairp
        dinog: I believe not
      • using ARs/featured artists in ngs is the preferred way
      • dinog
        is there a featured artist relationship type in NGS?
      • alastairp
        yeah, I think so
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      • senoje
        I am a new user to MusicBrainz, and would like to note that the installer does not include the necessary files to install properly.
      • The issue spoken of on the forum: http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?id=...
      • is still not resolved.
      • MBChatLogger
        I hate the evil empire
      • senoje
        I had to download the "Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Redistributable Package" in order to get the "MusicBrainz Picard" to launch without error.
      • Just wanted to let the appropriate people know, was some will get discouraged and merely uninstall the application.
      • *as some
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      • Ezek1el
        is there any reason why i shouldnt be able to click on the tagger button on the website and have the album info imported into picard? cos atm tisn't wokring
      • warp
        Ezek1el: did you restart picard perhaps?
      • Ezek1el
        did both ff and picard but will try again
      • warp
        Ezek1el: er, no, that's not what I meant :)
      • Ezek1el
        by restart picard what did you mean then?
      • warp
        Ezek1el: the green tagger links end in &tport=8000 or something, right?
      • Ezek1el
      • warp
        right
      • _if_ you've restarted picard, that '8000' may be wrong. you will have to do another lookup in picard, which will let the server know what port your current picard is using.
      • Ezek1el: if you can't get it to work, a workaround is to drag the url of a release from your browser to picard.
      • Ezek1el
        ah ok, thanks will try that :)
      • kinda seems like the site it down or very very slow atm
      • is*
      • down it is
      • warp
        indeed :(
      • Ezek1el
        maybe ngs rollout, though that would seem sorta unlikely, maybe
      • warp
        no, that's still some way off.
      • Ezek1el
        ah well, wishful thinking
      • aCiD2 FINALLY has a working solution
      • aCiD2 carries on ripping cds that he can actually listen to :)
      • aCiD2
        Uh oh... musicbrainz.org is down?
      • warp
        yes :(
      • aCiD2
        Shall I phone rob?
      • aCiD2 blames warp for blowing the server up on his first day
      • warp
        I don't suppose we can reach djce?
      • aCiD2
        Yea, I can try that first
      • brb
      • warp found him in the other channel :)
      • oh, heh, i just rang anyway :)
      • I got a free copy of Quaristice today \o/
      • Apparently the Amazon marketplace guy didn't send a shipping notification in time so I didn't get charged, but it turned up today :P
      • warp
        :)
      • alastairp
        aCiD2: how did you fix ripping?
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