Mineo: Hmm, yes, but that seems to apply more to actual discs with one opera on them? It seems a bit of a cumbersome set of track names to inflict on this particular disc...
Ok, I understand that. Sorry, what I meant is that Philip Glass probably didn't have any "intent" naming the tracks on this particular CD. He named the songs, which both options agree with exactly, but the question is the "metadata" in the track names.
2010-08-01 21347, 2010
enjayhch
Really don't think this chap was born / died on the same dates as Johann Sebastian Bach
what does it mean when picard tags by folksonomy ?
2010-08-01 21300, 2010
second
I've looked up folksonomy and folksonomy tagging but I'm not sure how picard would use it for genres
2010-08-01 21322, 2010
Leftmost
People on MusicBrainz tend to use genres as tags for releases.
2010-08-01 21301, 2010
second
should I enable folsonomy tagging for genres ?
2010-08-01 21313, 2010
ijabz joined the channel
2010-08-01 21312, 2010
second
is there a way to have picard play a music file so that I can verify that it is the correct song ?
2010-08-01 21356, 2010
kepstin
oh, hi nikki.
2010-08-01 21304, 2010
nikki
hi hi
2010-08-01 21305, 2010
nikki
does "a karaoke version" seem that wrong to you?
2010-08-01 21325, 2010
kepstin
hmm? It's not wrong, it just doesn't work if there's more than one karaoke version
2010-08-01 21301, 2010
kepstin
"Awesome Song has a karaoke version Awesome Song (karaoke) and Awesome Song -instrumental-"
2010-08-01 21311, 2010
kepstin
tis a bit weird.
2010-08-01 21324, 2010
second
...
2010-08-01 21327, 2010
nikki
it works for me, but maybe I've just spent too much time reading totally bizarrely phrased relationships ;)
2010-08-01 21330, 2010
kepstin
not that I expect that'll happen much, but still.
2010-08-01 21307, 2010
kepstin
second, as far as I know, picard doesn't have any music playing abilities, sorry.
2010-08-01 21357, 2010
kepstin
yeah, it would be nice if the relationship phases supported being translated and having alternate plural versions.
2010-08-01 21329, 2010
second
ok thanks
2010-08-01 21342, 2010
nikki
yeah
2010-08-01 21355, 2010
navap
What would be better still is to remove the need for phrases entirely and just list off credits.
2010-08-01 21311, 2010
navap
The credit itself can easily be translated.
2010-08-01 21316, 2010
nikki
I was wondering 'cause I think I'd prefer to keep the current wording, it's not ideal for more than one, but I think it sounds better when there is only one (which will presumably be the majority of cases)
2010-08-01 21340, 2010
kepstin
navap, the NGS test server does that for a lot of the track->artist relations on the release page, iirc?
2010-08-01 21349, 2010
nikki
yep
2010-08-01 21349, 2010
navap
Yeah
2010-08-01 21306, 2010
nikki hates the sentences... easily translated... hah! :P
2010-08-01 21327, 2010
kepstin
nikki, yeah, feel free to leave it as is. I don't expect multiple karaoke versions to be an issue, and it does sound better for one.
2010-08-01 21347, 2010
nikki
ok then :)
2010-08-01 21351, 2010
nikki goes to send an rfv
2010-08-01 21308, 2010
iGadget joined the channel
2010-08-01 21312, 2010
iGadget
hi
2010-08-01 21330, 2010
iGadget
anyone in here who can help me converting a release group to a box set? :)
2010-08-01 21350, 2010
iGadget
I think I mistakenly added a release group while in fact it should have been a box set
2010-08-01 21342, 2010
iGadget
...and now that I've read the definition of a release group, I *know* I did it wrong
2010-08-01 21325, 2010
iGadget
hmmm... everybody's celebrating their weekend, I suppose :)
2010-08-01 21310, 2010
nikki isn't sure what exactly you're trying to do
2010-08-01 21350, 2010
nikki
do you need to combine multiple release groups into one?
2010-08-01 21339, 2010
iGadget
no... I have a box set here
2010-08-01 21353, 2010
iGadget
and I added it as a release group
2010-08-01 21356, 2010
iGadget
by mistake
2010-08-01 21316, 2010
kepstin
it's a set of disks which are also individually available, or previously released?
2010-08-01 21304, 2010
mr_maxis joined the channel
2010-08-01 21315, 2010
iGadget
well... it's a re-release, packed onto 16 CD's which were also released on many more CD's separately in the past
2010-08-01 21338, 2010
kepstin
huh. that's an odd case.
2010-08-01 21356, 2010
iGadget
so the individual cd's of this release are actually not individually available
2010-08-01 21318, 2010
kepstin
and each cd would contain songs from more than one previously released album?
2010-08-01 21329, 2010
iGadget
yup
2010-08-01 21358, 2010
kepstin
hmm. In this case, it's probably fine to leave them all together as a release group, there's not much point in having them seperate
and I suppose I have to wait moderation before I can see the change?
2010-08-01 21340, 2010
kepstin
one thing to remember is that every release has to be in a release group. In many cases, you get a release group that only contains one release, but that's OK.
2010-08-01 21307, 2010
iGadget
allright
2010-08-01 21308, 2010
kepstin
iGadget, yeah. If three people vote yes, an edit can pass quicker, however.
2010-08-01 21334, 2010
iGadget
so, what's the correct way to add the second CD out of this set to the same release group?
2010-08-01 21347, 2010
iGadget
(and the following CD's as well of course)
2010-08-01 21349, 2010
nikki
you probably want to merge the release groups together
2010-08-01 21339, 2010
iGadget
okay... let's see if I can pull that off :)
2010-08-01 21354, 2010
kepstin
If you go to the artist's page, you can check the boxes of all of the release groups that should be together. THen click "Merge selected release groups" near the top of the page
2010-08-01 21356, 2010
iGadget
I think I submitted the second CD somewhere...
2010-08-01 21335, 2010
iGadget
kepstin: allright, that seems to work. However, the resulting release group still has the wrong name... is simply adding a note about that enough to make the merge go smooth?
2010-08-01 21354, 2010
kepstin
iGadget, the rename will still apply after the groups are merged.
2010-08-01 21302, 2010
iGadget
great.
2010-08-01 21301, 2010
iGadget
hmmm... just merged the two groups, but it's not reflected yet. Again a moderation issue?
okay... not very WYSIWYG this way, but I guess I'll just have to prove myself and be granted auto-edit priviledges some day ;)
2010-08-01 21331, 2010
kepstin
iGadget, it's usually a good thing to have to wait. It means that other people have a chance to look at your changes and double-check that they're correct.
2010-08-01 21305, 2010
nikki thinks it would be a big improvement if it would just *tell* people the edits have been received and put into a queue
2010-08-01 21320, 2010
nikki
I see a lot of new people who get confused when they make edits and nothing happens :/
2010-08-01 21321, 2010
iGadget
yes, that would be better
2010-08-01 21329, 2010
iGadget
precisely
2010-08-01 21318, 2010
iGadget
IMHO the changes should/could be reflected to the editor only, with a clear indication that his/her edit still awaits moderation
2010-08-01 21345, 2010
iGadget
...but I guess that involves a major system overhaul for the site admins ;)
2010-08-01 21355, 2010
kepstin
yeah. Right now everybody gets the same view (which is a lot easier on the database server, which isn't too happy right now)
2010-08-01 21322, 2010
kepstin
note that anything with pending changes is currently highlighted in yellow, so you can see where there are edits waiting.
2010-08-01 21319, 2010
iGadget
I noticed that... so the database load issues still exist? I ran across a blog entry about this, which was several years old..
2010-08-01 21322, 2010
iGadget
okay, so what's the best way to add all the remaining CD's to this release group?
2010-08-01 21351, 2010
kepstin
If you go to the release group page, there will be an 'add release' link in the header which will add a release directly to that release group.
2010-08-01 21322, 2010
iGadget
great. I'll try that.
2010-08-01 21328, 2010
iGadget
one more thing - Picard won't come up with any result for the CD's in this box when I put them into my CD drive, until the edits have been approved?
2010-08-01 21348, 2010
iGadget
(after I've added them to the MB database, of course)
2010-08-01 21305, 2010
kepstin
iGadget, no. Picard sees exactly the same thing as what you see on the website
2010-08-01 21324, 2010
kepstin
so it'll see the releases that you've added, but not the changes that you made after adding them.
