NGS doesn't allow having separate catalogue numbers for each disc of a multi-disc release
2010-12-01 33524, 2010
kepstin
is that something that should be supported?
2010-12-01 33539, 2010
nikki thinks so, of course :P
2010-12-01 33532, 2010
nikki
but I doubt it'll get done for ngs :/
2010-12-01 33528, 2010
kepstin
one thing i've seen on some of these releases with bonus discs is that the first disc will still have the catalogue number for the single-disc release, and have the UPC code for the single-disc release embedded
2010-12-01 33532, 2010
nikki
although it does allow multiple catalogue numbers, it just doesn't let you say "this is for disc 1, that is for disc 2"
which contains a CD labelled VTCL-60085 and a DVD labelled VTBY-4
2010-12-01 33500, 2010
nikki
interesting...
2010-12-01 33549, 2010
nikki
I haven't seen any like that yet, I've only seen ones where each disc has the disc number appended (e.g. the spine says ABCD-1234, disc 1 is ABCD-1234-1 and disc 2 is ABCD-1234-2) and those ones with letters like the avex ones
2010-12-01 33501, 2010
nikki
although I do have some where the dvd has a completely different catalogue number
2010-12-01 33547, 2010
kepstin
http://musicbrainz.org/release/0809c1e9-35dc-4d32… is weirder - VIZL-222 is literally just a box containing the regular (digipak) release of VICL-62300 and a seperate digipak of VIBY-278 which is the DVD
2010-12-01 33541, 2010
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2010-12-01 33507, 2010
kepstin
hmm. A few of the japanese releases that i've gotten recently are kind of odd.
2010-12-01 33517, 2010
kepstin
they come in a jewel case that's slightly thicker than normal
2010-12-01 33518, 2010
nikki
they're japanese :P
2010-12-01 33514, 2010
nikki
how much thicker though?
2010-12-01 33526, 2010
kepstin
about a millimeter
2010-12-01 33529, 2010
kepstin takes a photo
2010-12-01 33541, 2010
kepstin
hmm.
2010-12-01 33545, 2010
kepstin takes a better photo
2010-12-01 33550, 2010
nikki
hehe
2010-12-01 33535, 2010
kepstin puts the SD card back in his camera, /then/ takes a better photo
although I have to say that the standard cases I get with japanese releases seem to be better than the ones I get from other countries. maybe they're just made of stronger plastic or something
2010-12-01 33558, 2010
kepstin
I actually have one of those 'SHM' CDs that some japanese companies are promoting.
2010-12-01 33504, 2010
kepstin
have yet to see a difference :)
2010-12-01 33512, 2010
nikki
hence calling them sham-cds :P
2010-12-01 33506, 2010
kepstin
it's entirely possible that the alternate plastic formulation they're using increases scratch resistance, but I'm not about to test that :)
2010-12-01 33520, 2010
nikki
it'd be nice to be able to mark them (and blu-spec) ones in the db though
2010-12-01 33534, 2010
nikki
I did notice that some labels are using specific catalogue numbers for them
2010-12-01 33557, 2010
kepstin
yeah, on releases where they have both, the SHM tends to have a price premium
2010-12-01 33510, 2010
pankkake
oh, nice boxes, and fully transparent
2010-12-01 33513, 2010
nikki
I think sony uses digits starting with 90000 for blu-spec and emi uses digits starting with 20000 for shm... or vice versa
2010-12-01 33542, 2010
pankkake
I have a lot of standard cd cases where the CD holder is black, and it masks the artwork behind
2010-12-01 33553, 2010
nikki
those look really old fashioned to me :D
2010-12-01 33504, 2010
nikki is used to transparent cases
2010-12-01 33515, 2010
kepstin
the JVC one I have is -70001 and -70002 (it's a two-disc set)
2010-12-01 33529, 2010
nikki nods
2010-12-01 33546, 2010
kepstin
but I don't know if that's because it's SHM; I don't think it's the first release they put out in the format
2010-12-01 33547, 2010
nikki
I think victor don't have specific numbers... I was investigating them, 'cause then I can tag them :D
2010-12-01 33528, 2010
kepstin
the other JVC discs I have tend to be 30000 (singles) or 60000 (albums)
2010-12-01 33532, 2010
herojoker
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2010-12-01 33515, 2010
nikki
oops. sony use 20000 for blu-spec, emi use 90000 for shm
2010-12-01 33529, 2010
nikki would love to know what herojoker actually means
2010-12-01 33556, 2010
kepstin
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2010-12-01 33512, 2010
nikki
ah, there's one release I have where there was a blu-spec version... the normal limited edition with the dvd was ¥3,800, the blu-spec version with the dvd was ¥6,666
2010-12-01 33525, 2010
nikki
I thought about getting it to see what's so special... until I saw the price :P
2010-12-01 33545, 2010
kepstin
yeah. the one SHM release I have is because it was /only/ released as SHM :)
someone familiar with victor catalogue numbers might be able to guess.
2010-12-01 33543, 2010
nikki
the first one has a dvd?
2010-12-01 33550, 2010
kepstin
yep.
2010-12-01 33554, 2010
nikki
ehehe
2010-12-01 33521, 2010
nikki
the strange thing is that I only have a couple of victor releases
2010-12-01 33540, 2010
nikki
but I seem to spend an awful lot of time figuring out their labels and catalogue numbers
2010-12-01 33510, 2010
kepstin
yeah, a couple of my favourite artists are on flying DOG, so I have a bunch of Victor releases.
2010-12-01 33524, 2010
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2010-12-01 33539, 2010
kepstin
hmm. there does seem to be a bit of a pattern to their catalogue numbers. VI?? is Victor, VT?? is flying dog, 6xxxx is albums, 35xxx is maxi singles, 30xxxx and 1xxxxx are 8cm singles
2010-12-01 33559, 2010
kepstin
30xxx and 1xxxx*
2010-12-01 33559, 2010
nikki
ooh
2010-12-01 33503, 2010
nikki
I knew about VI and VT
2010-12-01 33506, 2010
kepstin
if the third letter is 'D' it's an 8cm CD, 'C' is a 12cm CD, 'B' is a video DVD, 'X' is bluray, 'Z' is combination
2010-12-01 33542, 2010
nikki
yeah, I was collecting the third letters for ages, then I found out there was already a list on the japanese wikipedia :P
2010-12-01 33522, 2010
kepstin
I wonder if they ever change the 4th letter, I only think i've seen 'L'
2010-12-01 33530, 2010
nikki
they do
2010-12-01 33542, 2010
nikki
I think they use them for sub-labels, like I think VICB is babestar
2010-12-01 33535, 2010
nikki
and I've seen VICJ for some jazz stuff I think...
2010-12-01 33557, 2010
nikki
oh. seems that VICB is the only one
2010-12-01 33506, 2010
nikki
(for sublabels I mean)
2010-12-01 33549, 2010
kepstin
ah. the fourth letter is P on their releases by foreign artists
