nikki rarely copies things in finder so has no idea what the real key is and just tries different things until the cursor changes :P
2011-06-16 16739, 2011
hawke_
I do the same thing
2011-06-16 16751, 2011
hawke_
and as such, I think that whole concept of ‘hold down the keys’ is stupid.
2011-06-16 16714, 2011
hawke_
and at the very least doesn’t fit well with the idea of collections.
2011-06-16 16719, 2011
bitmap
hmm, I'd think that people would be more likely to want to copy a release than move it
2011-06-16 16724, 2011
bitmap
but I like nikki's idea
2011-06-16 16758, 2011
hawke_
I think pretending that collections are like file folders is a bad idea.
2011-06-16 16703, 2011
nikki
I guess that depends on the person then, mine are very much like file folders :P
2011-06-16 16700, 2011
ianmcorvidae
they're arbitrary containers that hold entities
2011-06-16 16707, 2011
ianmcorvidae
file folders are close enough :P
2011-06-16 16712, 2011
hawke_
If you edit a release in one collection, it changes in all collections.
2011-06-16 16734, 2011
hawke_
One release can be in many collections
2011-06-16 16743, 2011
hawke_
those are two ways in which they’re not like file folders
2011-06-16 16758, 2011
warp joined the channel
2011-06-16 16700, 2011
hawke_
(either the physical ones, or the disk-based filesystem things)
2011-06-16 16709, 2011
nikki
isn't that what hard links are for?
2011-06-16 16716, 2011
nikki only uses symlinks, which are close enough for her
2011-06-16 16735, 2011
ianmcorvidae
yeah, I was thinking that
2011-06-16 16738, 2011
ianmcorvidae
file folders have symlinks :)
2011-06-16 16701, 2011
bitmap
now that I think about it, dragging things around in the treeview might be confusing either way
2011-06-16 16748, 2011
bitmap
perhaps the panel should simply be a list, with a box at the top to select the currently viewed collection
2011-06-16 16749, 2011
hawke_
nikki, ianmcorvidae: Yeah, but symlinks break the common folder/treeview metaphor, too. :-p
2011-06-16 16718, 2011
ianmcorvidae
heh, fair
2011-06-16 16718, 2011
bitmap
and the list items would still have context menus with "add to collection -> [list of collections it's not in]"
2011-06-16 16712, 2011
hawke_
bitmap: That’s where a checkbox-list works better, because you don’t need an “add to collection” and “remove from collection” menu
2011-06-16 16748, 2011
hawke_ slaps the Release Editor … again.
2011-06-16 16750, 2011
bitmap
hawke_: I don't understand how it would be better. you'd still be able to select multiple releases and add them to a collection at once with the menus
2011-06-16 16702, 2011
hawke_
bitmap: It gives you fewer menus. You just have a “Collections” menu
2011-06-16 16723, 2011
hawke_
with checkable entries listing the collections
2011-06-16 16757, 2011
hawke_
instead of two menus each of which lists some subset of the collections
2011-06-16 16727, 2011
bitmap
either way, you'd never see more than one menu on the screen at once
2011-06-16 16700, 2011
bitmap
with multiple releases selected, where some are in a collection and some aren't, I'm not sure what the menu would indicate in place of a check mark either
