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      • kyomi
        Any reason why http://musicbrainz.org/release/d7291fb0-77f3-3fe5… doesn't show cover art?
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      • ocharles
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      • ocharles
        I thought "i" was a letter on its own, not an accented form of "ı"
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      • ocharles
        Neither Text::Unaccent or Text::Transliterator::Unaccent unaccent it in the way requested
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      • jacobbrett1
        It seems to be, as according to: http://live.gnome.org/Gucharmap
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      • jacobbrett1
        • U+0069 LATIN SMALL LETTER I
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      • ocharles
        I don't quite follow, for which letter is that output?
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      • jacobbrett1
        That's the additonal notes for U+0131 LATIN SMALL LETTER DOTLESS I
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      • ocharles
        hum
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      • ocharles
        Should adding a disc id for a medium immediately set track times, if they are all undefined?
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      • nikki
        yes!
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      • nikki
        modbot will only do it later otherwise
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      • nikki
        (but in the meantime people just open more pointless edits)
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      • ocharles
        yea
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      • luks
        ocharles: that's a very old ticket and requires a patched version of libunac
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      • luks
        the search server and the direct search both convert the characters
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      • ocharles
        ah, ok
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      • luks
        the patch is in the old ticket in trac
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      • ocharles
        I did consider just offloading the work to db
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      • ocharles
        SELECT musicbrainz_unaccent(?)
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      • nikki
        ocharles: I'm not very good at explaining, but what I meant in the original trac ticket was that when a language has ı it has I as the capital letter, and there's a separate letter i with İ as the capital letter... and you can imagine how messed up the dot/no dot gets when normally i corresponds to I... so it needs fixing a lot
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      • luks
        I'd consider taking over Text::Unaccent
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      • ocharles
        I wonder if I can request co-maint on that
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      • ocharles
        seeing as it hasn't been updated in years
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      • luks
        we've talked to the guy years ago, he said he will commit the patch to CVS and nothing happened
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      • ocharles
        I can probably request co-maint as it's abandoned then
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      • nikki
        and normally adding/removing an accent is an auto-edit, like doing o -> ö in swedish, so I don't see why i İ ı I should be any different
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      • ocharles
        yea
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      • ocharles
        nikki: I just wanted to make sure they count as the same letter
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      • ocharles
        (when unaccented)
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      • luks
        but yea, using the database would be the simplest solution for now
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      • cparker
        Would appreciate some votes on these two edits if/when someone gets the chance: http://musicbrainz.org/recording/ce352d20-65d5-4c…
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      • ocharles
        http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-2429 I assume it would be a good idea to show Last.FM links on the sidebar?
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      • cparker
        How is one supposed to specify an "arranged by" relationship?
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      • cparker
        Is there any consideration for a "series" relationship? For example, the "NOW That's What I Call Music" series?
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      • nikki
        cparker: it's been proposed before, but got stuck because people couldn't decide how it should be implemented
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      • nikki
        ocharles: who knows, I asked once before how we should decide what goes in the sidebar but nobody said anything
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      • ocharles
        nikki: I'm starting to think just all links
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      • nikki
        there's still some I don't think belong there
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      • nikki
        and when I tried it, it was a mess
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      • ocharles
        hm, I see
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      • wpl
        Is there a tutorial on how to install just the database on a local server?
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      • wpl
        The wiki just refers to the VirtualMachine, which is not what I need.
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      • nikki
        if you only want the database, mbslave is probably a better idea
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      • nikki looks for the link
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      • ianmcorvidae
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      • nikki
        show off :P
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      • ianmcorvidae was just going to paste the link :P
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      • ianmcorvidae
        also
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      • ianmcorvidae
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      • wpl
        thx guys :)
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      • cjk32
        What't the best way to add a new multi-medium release with discids?
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      • reosarevok
        cjk32: I think either adding the release and then attaching the IDs or adding each disc and merging them
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      • reosarevok
        But maybe it has been made simpler…
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      • hawke_
        Pretty sure that’s right…
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      • cjk32
        Creating the release then adding discids seemd better than created five releases and merging - doesn't depend on edits being approved before its correct in the database.
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      • reosarevok would agree
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      • reosarevok
        The recordings probably won't get the right track lengths yet
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      • reosarevok
        But they will once a system for them to be taken from tracks is developed
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      • reosarevok
        (and that's in the plans)
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      • reosarevok
        So…
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      • cjk32
        I'm not sure that's working correctly anyway. Adding a single disc release didn't provide track-lengths / recording lengths from the toc.
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      • cjk32
        Actually, it looks like I can start adding a release based upon one discid, then add new media to it.
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      • cjk32
        Gah, also looks like ISRCs aren't anywhere near as unique as one might hope!
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      • cjk32
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      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah, ISRCs and ISWCs both
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      • ianmcorvidae
        although there's also issues dealing with actually reading ISRCs
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      • ianmcorvidae
        different readers have different, ah, challenges
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      • cjk32
        Given that they're used for keeping track of royalties, one might have hoped they'd be a bit better coordinated.
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      • reosarevok
        cjk32: ISWCs seem to be relatively fine
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      • reosarevok
        (at least in Spain…)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        reosarevok: there's the request for "let works have more than one ISWC" which I think speaks to the issues with ISWCs as well :)
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      • reosarevok
        ianmcorvidae: I'm not saying there are none
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      • cjk32
        :)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        they're better than ISRCs, though, yeah
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      • reosarevok
        I've seen one duplicated work :)
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      • reosarevok
        But yeah, I've seen over 1k non-dupe ones
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      • reosarevok
        So I would imagine they're kinda better
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      • cjk32
        Well, my ISRCs are consistent over two different brands of drive, I think they're sound at least.
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      • cjk32
        Are there any large databases of ISRCs from which data has been imported?
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      • reosarevok
        cjk32: there is the French one, murdos was importing from it
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      • cjk32
        I'm a little suspicious of http://musicbrainz.org/edit/14674721
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      • reosarevok
        But I don't know if manually or with any bot
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      • ianmcorvidae
        cjk32: yeah, sbontrager's ISRC edits are known
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      • ianmcorvidae
        I don't know why the thing removing those hasn't been deployed yet
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      • cjk32
        Ah, okay. Mind if I ask what happened?
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      • ianmcorvidae
        just a poorly-written script, as far as I know
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      • reosarevok
        Faulty submitting script
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      • ianmcorvidae
        http://codereview.musicbrainz.org/r/1381/ <-- dunno why this hasn't shipped
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      • bitmap
        from what he said, due to an evil global variable that kept references to past ISRCs :)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        needs more functional programming
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      • ianmcorvidae
        ;)
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      • cjk32
        Ah, hence the requirement for a unique user agent, I guess