#musicbrainz

Who remembers http://users.musicbrainz.org/~robert/wikialbums...

Check out how freebase does it

They've got queues to match their data with external sources.

MB is just one of those sources of course

I clicked on one of the lines with mb and got a HUGE orange menu bar from us

Yeah..

I took a look and couldn't figure that out

But besides that css glitch I think it works really well

it would work better if it actually fit on the screen for me

instead it's all scrolly and resizey and things move around when I move my mouse :(

Okay besides the css and resizing issues then :)

Works for me in Chrome

I don't know what it does, but it works

luks: Don't know if you're around, or if you read the scrollback, but: acoustID should probably refuse to associate unknown/0:00 recordings with acoustIDs.

that would get rid of a lot of my submissions then :P

(well, my potential ones in the future)

Why's that?

because I'm not going to go through setting recording times manually

I add releases to the db, then when they finally arrive, I add the disc ids and rip them

It just doesn't seem useful to associate an acoustID with http://musicbrainz.org/recording/1ca971f2-6cdf-...

it's really annoying that adding a disc id to a release doesn't set the recording times, yeah

hawke: why not?

kepstin: because there's no duration information with that recording.

but adding track times from a disc id doesn't set recording times, and assuming luks is using the replication thing, it would mean having to wait an hour from adding times on the site to being able to submit stuff

oh, hi kepstin

I dunno, maybe there's a better way to handle it.

Like setting durations from acoustIDs somehow

Or...I dunno

setting recording times from track times automatically would help a lot...

can that be done in a reasonable way?

given that it often varies

how do you actually decide anyway?

I don't.

I don't know that I've ever set a recording duration intentionally

I've only done it to fix times which were completely off

I might have done that, not sure

Usually I'm entering new recordings, and those get set automatically from the tracklist. Otherwise I mostly use existing recordings if possible

There's no way to merge an entire disc of recordings, is there?

nope

:-(

I suppose I could edit one of the releases, delete one disc, and add the other disc from the existing one.

Except that the release editor won't find it.

...as long as I give it a number of tracks, it won't. :-(

...wow, 'add medium' edits are autoedits?

that's just ridiculous.

hm, if this release is on the RG level, does it need to also be at the release level? http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/afdd011e-e...

er, if this comment is on the RG level

well, http://musicbrainz.org/artist/673d3a45-5f49-4b5... ?

so I'd say it's helpful.

okay

I've done the same somewhere, I probably will for the various "The Bronx" releases, too: http://musicbrainz.org/artist/66ca7462-753c-48d...

Alternatively, it could be a good idea for releases to inherit the release group's comment in search results, etc.

That sounds like it could get messy

or maybe just display the RG annotation above the release annotation, as a separate paragraph

but that would imply giving more than one line to annotations.

I was thinking more like: Release Name (release comment grey) (release group comment grey & italic) or something.

Messy, and backwards.

You'd want the RG comment first

Yeah, I just thought that.

Actually, if we showed both comments then in the above cases the comment would only be needed at the RG level and so it wouln't be duplicated and wouldn't be as messy

I was imagining duplicated comments

The release would inherit the RG comment and could optionally have something release-specific set.

yep

Would also show the RG information everywhere it was relevant

What kind of capitalization should we have in comments?

ETI case?

I don't remember what ETI case is exactly. I normally prefer sentence caps in comments.

(ETI is normally sentence caps with first word lowercased, iirc?)

ETI words/phrases is stuff like 'bonus disc', 'remix', 'instrumental' and it's all in lower case unless there's a proper noun

So how should the bootleg's comment look here http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/2e71ab80-e...

hmm. actually, come to think of it, I do use all-lowercase

(expanded score)

it's just that my comments often start with a proper noun

yeah, I'd do "expanded score" for that.

off to bed! more cleanup tomorrow, I somehow managed to finish http://musicbrainz.org/artist/cc60ec6a-b1e6-444... today...

that begin date seems a little in the future. I wonder what I should do about that.

probably the date that the character was created would be more accurate...

I normally do lowercase

Capitalization: I like " 'round Midnight" and " 'round 'bout MIdnight"... opinions?

er, except for the capital "I" in Midnight

I'm impartial, though wasn't it decided that it should always be capitalised?

I haven't dug into it? Was there?

On the style list a year or two ago, I think

I'll do a search. Thansk.

er, right, thanks

For posterity, http://musicbrainz.1054305.n4.nabble.com/RFC-en...

are VA tribute albums supposed to be under the tributed artist?

Wouldn't they go under the artist who released the tribute album? (in this case VA because there are several)

Indeed; they can be linked with an RG-level "tribute" relationship.

k

I "like" how [unknown] doesn't show up in quick-searches if you include the brackets.