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      • navap
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      • navap
        Check out how freebase does it
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      • navap
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      • navap
        They've got queues to match their data with external sources.
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      • navap
        MB is just one of those sources of course
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      • nikki blinks at all the info
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      • nikki
        I clicked on one of the lines with mb and got a HUGE orange menu bar from us
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      • navap
        Yeah..
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      • navap
        I took a look and couldn't figure that out
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      • navap
        But besides that css glitch I think it works really well
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      • nikki
        it would work better if it actually fit on the screen for me
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      • nikki
        instead it's all scrolly and resizey and things move around when I move my mouse :(
      • 2011-11-01 30545, 2011

      • navap
        Okay besides the css and resizing issues then :)
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      • hawke
        Works for me in Chrome
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      • hawke
        I don't know what it does, but it works
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      • hawke
        luks: Don't know if you're around, or if you read the scrollback, but: acoustID should probably refuse to associate unknown/0:00 recordings with acoustIDs.
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      • nikki
        that would get rid of a lot of my submissions then :P
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      • nikki
        (well, my potential ones in the future)
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      • hawke
        Why's that?
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      • nikki
        because I'm not going to go through setting recording times manually
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      • hawke
        hmm
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      • nikki
        I add releases to the db, then when they finally arrive, I add the disc ids and rip them
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      • hawke
        It just doesn't seem useful to associate an acoustID with http://musicbrainz.org/recording/1ca971f2-6cdf-43…
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      • kepstin
        it's really annoying that adding a disc id to a release doesn't set the recording times, yeah
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      • kepstin
        hawke: why not?
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      • hawke
        kepstin: because there's no duration information with that recording.
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      • nikki
        but adding track times from a disc id doesn't set recording times, and assuming luks is using the replication thing, it would mean having to wait an hour from adding times on the site to being able to submit stuff
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      • nikki
        oh, hi kepstin
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      • hawke
        I dunno, maybe there's a better way to handle it.
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      • hawke
        Like setting durations from acoustIDs somehow
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      • hawke
        Or...I dunno
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      • kepstin
        setting recording times from track times automatically would help a lot...
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      • hawke
        can that be done in a reasonable way?
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      • hawke
        given that it often varies
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      • nikki
        how do you actually decide anyway?
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      • hawke
        I don't.
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      • hawke
        I don't know that I've ever set a recording duration intentionally
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      • nikki
        I've only done it to fix times which were completely off
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      • hawke
        I might have done that, not sure
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      • hawke
        Usually I'm entering new recordings, and those get set automatically from the tracklist. Otherwise I mostly use existing recordings if possible
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      • hawke
        There's no way to merge an entire disc of recordings, is there?
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      • nikki
        nope
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      • hawke
        :-(
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      • hawke
        I suppose I could edit one of the releases, delete one disc, and add the other disc from the existing one.
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      • hawke
        Except that the release editor won't find it.
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      • hawke
        ...as long as I give it a number of tracks, it won't. :-(
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      • hawke
        ...wow, 'add medium' edits are autoedits?
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      • hawke
        that's just ridiculous.
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      • navap
        hm, if this release is on the RG level, does it need to also be at the release level? http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/afdd011e-e2a…
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      • navap
        er, if this comment is on the RG level
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      • kepstin
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      • kepstin
        so I'd say it's helpful.
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      • navap
        okay
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      • jacobbrett
        I've done the same somewhere, I probably will for the various "The Bronx" releases, too: http://musicbrainz.org/artist/66ca7462-753c-48d0-…
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      • jacobbrett
        Alternatively, it could be a good idea for releases to inherit the release group's comment in search results, etc.
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      • navap
        That sounds like it could get messy
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      • hawke
        or maybe just display the RG annotation above the release annotation, as a separate paragraph
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      • hawke
        but that would imply giving more than one line to annotations.
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      • jacobbrett
        I was thinking more like: Release Name (release comment grey) (release group comment grey & italic) or something.
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      • navap
        Messy, and backwards.
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      • navap
        You'd want the RG comment first 
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      • jacobbrett
        Yeah, I just thought that.
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      • navap
        Actually, if we showed both comments then in the above cases the comment would only be needed at the RG level and so it wouln't be duplicated and wouldn't be as messy
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      • navap
        I was imagining duplicated comments
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      • navap
        The release would inherit the RG comment and could optionally have something release-specific set.
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      • hawke
        yep
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      • hawke
        Would also show the RG information everywhere it was relevant
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      • navap
        What kind of capitalization should we have in comments?
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      • navap
        ETI case?
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      • kepstin
        I don't remember what ETI case is exactly. I normally prefer sentence caps in comments.
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      • kepstin
        (ETI is normally sentence caps with first word lowercased, iirc?)
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      • navap
        ETI words/phrases is stuff like 'bonus disc', 'remix', 'instrumental' and it's all in lower case unless there's a proper noun
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      • navap
        So how should the bootleg's comment look here http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/2e71ab80-ed8…
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      • kepstin
        hmm. actually, come to think of it, I do use all-lowercase
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      • hawke
        (expanded score)
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      • kepstin
        it's just that my comments often start with a proper noun
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      • kepstin
        yeah, I'd do "expanded score" for that.
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      • kepstin
        off to bed! more cleanup tomorrow, I somehow managed to finish http://musicbrainz.org/artist/cc60ec6a-b1e6-444a-… today...
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      • kepstin
        that begin date seems a little in the future. I wonder what I should do about that.
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      • kepstin
        probably the date that the character was created would be more accurate...
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      • jacobbrett
        I normally do lowercase
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      • CallerNo6
        Capitalization: I like " 'round Midnight" and " 'round 'bout MIdnight"... opinions?
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      • CallerNo6
        er, except for the capital "I" in Midnight
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      • jacobbrett
        I'm impartial, though wasn't it decided that it should always be capitalised?
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      • CallerNo6
        I haven't dug into it? Was there?
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      • jacobbrett
        On the style list a year or two ago, I think
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      • CallerNo6
        I'll do a search. Thansk.
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      • CallerNo6
        er, right, thanks
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      • CallerNo6
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      • hawke
        are VA tribute albums supposed to be under the tributed artist?
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      • navap
        Wouldn't they go under the artist who released the tribute album? (in this case VA because there are several)
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      • jacobbrett
        Indeed; they can be linked with an RG-level "tribute" relationship.
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      • hawke
        k
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      • hawke
        I "like" how [unknown] doesn't show up in quick-searches if you include the brackets.
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