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                    ianmcorvidae
                MB also likes having a URL, rswarbrick -- recommended format by MB is <client name>/<version> ( <url or some other form of contact info for the author> )
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                and python-musicbrainz-ngs uses <app>/<version> python-musicbrainz-ngs/<pymbngs version> ( <url> )
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                which may be a better model for your thing, if it's a library :)
     
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                    kovacsur
                
     
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                    kovacsur
                I'm just not sure what to rename it to :/
     
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                    kovacsur
                The current imprint for Hungarian EMI releases seems to be simply "EMI", no qualifiers
     
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                    kovacsur
                with "EMI Zenei Kft." in the copyright notice
     
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                    derwin
                hello EMI
     
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                    derwin
                goooooooooodbye
     
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                    derwin
                A&&M
     
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                    rswarbrick
                Happy (belated) new year all!
     
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                    VxJasonxV
                not belated to us americans
     
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                    rswarbrick
                Ah, but it's going to be hours before anyone south of the arctic circle welcomes the new year in now :-)
     
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                    VxJasonxV
                indeed
     
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                    rswarbrick
                ianmcorvidae: Right, shall do. Re the library thing, will wait on that until I've stopped the "debug phase".
     
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                    kepstin-laptop
                
     
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                    brianfreud
                
     
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                    derwin
                I listen to new music constantly
     
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                    derwin
                but most of it I wouldn't blog about
     
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        kepstin-laptop was bored, and he figured that he might as well use the last.fm stats for /something/ :)
     
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                    derwin
                my top 10 for the last year is kinda dire
     
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                    kovacsur
                brianfreud: yout screenshot tells me you haven't updated my script :)
     
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                    kovacsur
                it's a bit wider now, but still doesn't break yours
     
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                    kovacsur
                your*
     
      2012-01-01 00146, 2012 
    
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                    kovacsur
                Maybe I should add a button to toggle between "simple mode" and "classical music mode".
     
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                    brianfreud
                kovacsur: lol
     
      2012-01-01 00137, 2012 
    
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                    brianfreud
                I put a little tweak in mine to tweak yours; it adds a display style to the table so they can sit horizontally, instead of vertically
     
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                    kovacsur
                Oh, and the checkboxes are already there, my script doesn't add them (they're for selecting works to be merged)
     
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                    brianfreud
                ah
     
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                    brianfreud
                for some reason I wasn't seeing them in FF
     
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                    brianfreud
                figured your script was the difference
     
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                    kovacsur
                hm
     
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                    kovacsur
                I could be wrong, it's almost 3am
     
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                    brianfreud
                I'm traveling, and on the laptop, so I didn't bother to check more deeply
     
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                    kovacsur
                Yes, I disabled GreaseMonkey and the checkboxes are definitely still there
     
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                    kovacsur
                maybe you weren't logged in
     
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                    brianfreud
                ah, that's prob it
     
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                    derwin
                kepstin-laptop: your lists are subbed anime mostly yeah?
     
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                    derwin
                lol, bakuman in mid-tier
     
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                    derwin
                I finished it only because it was unique
     
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                    derwin
                kepstin-laptop: it seems like nothing you recommend is avail in dub
     
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                    kepstin-laptop
                derwin: all the stuff on those lists is done as it's broadcast in japan, so yeah; subs only.
     
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                    reosarevok
                bitmap, you rule :)
     
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                    Innocuous
                He happy new year!
     
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                    reosarevok
                Same to you :)
     
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                    Innocuous
                I am trying to merge two releases disc 1 and disc 2 together but I am not sure if I did it the right way...
     
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                    Innocuous
                
     
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                    Innocuous
                Catch as Catch Can
     
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                    Innocuous
                Maybe someone with more experience would be so kind to check...
     
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        reosarevok does
     
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                    reosarevok
                Almost
     
      2012-01-01 00127, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                You shouldn't add "Disc 1" and "Disc 2" as medium titles
     
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                    reosarevok
                
     
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                    reosarevok
                nikki, ping
     
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                    Innocuous
                ok thanks
     
      2012-01-01 00118, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                nikki: what's the protocol to add a new type to the work types list?
     
      2012-01-01 00133, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                
     
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                    Innocuous
                I try to correct myself...
     
      2012-01-01 00128, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                Innocuous: I'd just cancel the merge releases edit and re-enter it without the titles
     
      2012-01-01 00138, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                The disc change name is correct
     
      2012-01-01 00149, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                So you don't need to touch it
     
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                    Innocuous
                ok
     
      2012-01-01 00111, 2012 
    
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                    Innocuous
                To be sure I just leave the medium title empty?
     
      2012-01-01 00149, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                Yep
     
      2012-01-01 00159, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                You should only fill it when the discs have a real title
     
      2012-01-01 00108, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                Say, disc 2 is called "The B-Sides" for example
     
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                    Innocuous
                Thanks for clearing that up
     
      2012-01-01 00126, 2012 
    
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                    Innocuous
                Hope it is ok now...
     
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                    v6lur
                happy new year, #musicbrainz!
     
      2012-01-01 00129, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                Innocuous, it looks fine :)
     
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                    reosarevok
                Head uut aastat v6lur!
     
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                    Innocuous
                Great! Thanks for checking..
     
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                    Munger
                Happy New Year peeps!
     
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                    reosarevok
                rswarbrick, ping
     
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                    reosarevok
                (also brianfreud, maybe Kryztof, and... well, I don't know, anyone who wants to criticise and help)
     
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                    reosarevok
                
     
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                    reosarevok
                
     
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                    rswarbrick
                reosarevok: Pong
     
      2012-01-01 00132, 2012 
    
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                    rswarbrick
                I'd lose the SATB bit on "quartet". I think that will only confuse people.
     
      2012-01-01 00143, 2012 
    
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                    rswarbrick
                And maybe for madrigal I'd say "The madrigal is a type of secular vocal music composition. In its original form, it had no instrumental accompaniment, although accompaniment is much more common in later madrigals."
     
      2012-01-01 00112, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                Sure
     
      2012-01-01 00115, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                Just add stuff
     
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                    rswarbrick
                Cool.
     
      2012-01-01 00141, 2012 
    
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                    rswarbrick
                Is the quartet bit ok with you? (Don't want to delete your work!)
     
      2012-01-01 00146, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                The SATB part was some kind of attempt to justify why we have "quartet" as a form but not "duo", "trio" or "quintet" (which are all relatively common)
     
      2012-01-01 00107, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                I am also not too convinced on whether "quartet" is really a form
     
      2012-01-01 00111, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                But well, it's in the list
     
      2012-01-01 00117, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                (and yeah, delete away)
     
      2012-01-01 00148, 2012 
    
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                    rswarbrick
                Well, I'm pretty unconvinced on the value of these types at all. But that's a different problem.
     
      2012-01-01 00114, 2012 
    
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                    rswarbrick
                Would it be good to also have an example work for each type?
     
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                    reosarevok
                I guess it wouldn't hurt
     
      2012-01-01 00143, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                Even several for the types that can represent different stuff maybe
     
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        reosarevok just added the basic stuff, but has nothing against the page being made more useful
     
      2012-01-01 00107, 2012 
    
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                    rswarbrick
                For people who aren't sure what some of them should mean (eg not everyone knows what a madrigal is)
     
      2012-01-01 00114, 2012 
    
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                    rswarbrick
                Cool.
     
      2012-01-01 00116, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                ruaok's page did have examples after all, but they linked to releases
     
      2012-01-01 00127, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                (as works weren't added when that was made I guess)
     
      2012-01-01 00143, 2012 
    
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                    rswarbrick
                Hmm. For now, I'm going to fight with lisp code, but maybe I'll come back to this!
     
      2012-01-01 00152, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                Ok :)
     
      2012-01-01 00150, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                I am wondering about "song". Although it technically expects words
     
      2012-01-01 00130, 2012 
    
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                    rswarbrick
                Mendelssohn springs to mind...
     
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                    reosarevok
                
     
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                    reosarevok
                Yeah :p
     
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                    rswarbrick
                Exactly!
     
      2012-01-01 00106, 2012 
    
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                    rswarbrick
                Meh. I'm pretty ambivalent about it. Frankly, I don't think the work types will be very useful.
     
      2012-01-01 00125, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                While I don't expect them to be amazingly useful
     
      2012-01-01 00136, 2012 
    
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                    rswarbrick
                Unless maybe someone makes a tagging based version. (Not necessarily the current tags system, but something else which allows multiple work types)
     
      2012-01-01 00137, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                I would like to be able to filter a work list by, say, operas
     
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                    rswarbrick
                More exciting for me would be allowing only top-level works on a work list. IE, allow me to remove any works that are marked as part of a parent work.
     
      2012-01-01 00122, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                That's a different idea
     
      2012-01-01 00127, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                But you don't necessarily want that
     
      2012-01-01 00136, 2012 
    
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                    rswarbrick
                Well, I meant as an option.
     
      2012-01-01 00137, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                You probably want to remove *movements*
     
      2012-01-01 00148, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                But not stuff like..
     
      2012-01-01 00148, 2012 
    
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                    rswarbrick
                Yes, but that's how they're stored, right?
     
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                    reosarevok
                
     
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                    rswarbrick
                Ahah!
     
      2012-01-01 00120, 2012 
    
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                    rswarbrick
                I've not been doing that sort of grouping for that reason :-)
     
      2012-01-01 00129, 2012 
    
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                    rswarbrick
                Hmm, maybe works need a separate "top-level" flag.
     
      2012-01-01 00133, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                For your list, it's more likely that you'd want to remove Cello Sonatas nos. 1 & 2, Op. 5
     
      2012-01-01 00134, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                Yeah
     
      2012-01-01 00157, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                CallerNo6 was suggesting renaming "type" to "form"
     
      2012-01-01 00113, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                And add "type", being "work", "superwork", "movement/part"
     
      2012-01-01 00123, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                (names are placeholder-ish)
     
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                    rswarbrick
                Yep, sounds good. Although I'd suggest just finding a new word: otherwise things like the webservice will become out of sync with names.
     
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                    reosarevok
                Work level would work
     
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                    reosarevok
                Dunno
     
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                    kovacsur