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      • kepstin-laptop
        derwin: all the stuff on those lists is done as it's broadcast in japan, so yeah; subs only.

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      • reosarevok gets a perfect suggestion of works through bitmap's script and saves 14 clicks

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      • reosarevok
        bitmap, you rule :)

        • 2012-01-01 00138, 2012

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      • Innocuous
        He happy new year!

        • 2012-01-01 00118, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Same to you :)

        • 2012-01-01 00157, 2012

      • Innocuous
        I am trying to merge two releases disc 1 and disc 2 together but I am not sure if I did it the right way...

        • 2012-01-01 00110, 2012

      • Innocuous
        http://musicbrainz.org/artist/7c35ec53-2213-4841-…

        • 2012-01-01 00128, 2012

      • Innocuous
        Catch as Catch Can

        • 2012-01-01 00110, 2012

      • Innocuous
        Maybe someone with more experience would be so kind to check...

        • 2012-01-01 00157, 2012

      • reosarevok does

        • 2012-01-01 00114, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Almost

        • 2012-01-01 00127, 2012

      • reosarevok
        You shouldn't add "Disc 1" and "Disc 2" as medium titles

        • 2012-01-01 00100, 2012

      • reosarevok
        And you should merge the release groups too (from http://musicbrainz.org/artist/7c35ec53-2213-4841-… just select both checkboxes and click the merge button under the list)

        • 2012-01-01 00111, 2012

      • reosarevok
        nikki, ping

        • 2012-01-01 00117, 2012

      • Innocuous
        ok thanks

        • 2012-01-01 00118, 2012

      • reosarevok
        nikki: what's the protocol to add a new type to the work types list?

        • 2012-01-01 00133, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (that being http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zarzuela )

        • 2012-01-01 00130, 2012

      • Innocuous
        I try to correct myself...

        • 2012-01-01 00128, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Innocuous: I'd just cancel the merge releases edit and re-enter it without the titles

        • 2012-01-01 00138, 2012

      • reosarevok
        The disc change name is correct

        • 2012-01-01 00149, 2012

      • reosarevok
        So you don't need to touch it

        • 2012-01-01 00159, 2012

      • Innocuous
        ok

        • 2012-01-01 00111, 2012

      • Innocuous
        To be sure I just leave the medium title empty?

        • 2012-01-01 00149, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yep

        • 2012-01-01 00159, 2012

      • reosarevok
        You should only fill it when the discs have a real title

        • 2012-01-01 00108, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Say, disc 2 is called "The B-Sides" for example

        • 2012-01-01 00110, 2012

      • Innocuous
        Thanks for clearing that up

        • 2012-01-01 00126, 2012

      • Innocuous
        Hope it is ok now...

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      • v6lur
        happy new year, #musicbrainz!

        • 2012-01-01 00129, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Innocuous, it looks fine :)

        • 2012-01-01 00141, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Head uut aastat v6lur!

        • 2012-01-01 00102, 2012

      • Innocuous
        Great! Thanks for checking..

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      • Munger
        Happy New Year peeps!

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      • reosarevok
        rswarbrick, ping

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      • reosarevok
        (also brianfreud, maybe Kryztof, and... well, I don't know, anyone who wants to criticise and help)

        • 2012-01-01 00148, 2012

      • reosarevok
        http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Reosarevok/Work_…

        • 2012-01-01 00107, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Most of the definitions come via Wikipedia + the BBC via http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:RobertKaye/Works…

        • 2012-01-01 00155, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        reosarevok: Pong

        • 2012-01-01 00132, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        I'd lose the SATB bit on "quartet". I think that will only confuse people.

        • 2012-01-01 00143, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        And maybe for madrigal I'd say "The madrigal is a type of secular vocal music composition. In its original form, it had no instrumental accompaniment, although accompaniment is much more common in later madrigals."

        • 2012-01-01 00112, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Sure

        • 2012-01-01 00115, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Just add stuff

        • 2012-01-01 00119, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        Cool.

        • 2012-01-01 00141, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        Is the quartet bit ok with you? (Don't want to delete your work!)

        • 2012-01-01 00146, 2012

      • reosarevok
        The SATB part was some kind of attempt to justify why we have "quartet" as a form but not "duo", "trio" or "quintet" (which are all relatively common)

        • 2012-01-01 00107, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I am also not too convinced on whether "quartet" is really a form

        • 2012-01-01 00111, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But well, it's in the list

        • 2012-01-01 00117, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (and yeah, delete away)

        • 2012-01-01 00148, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        Well, I'm pretty unconvinced on the value of these types at all. But that's a different problem.

        • 2012-01-01 00114, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        Would it be good to also have an example work for each type?

        • 2012-01-01 00131, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I guess it wouldn't hurt

        • 2012-01-01 00143, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Even several for the types that can represent different stuff maybe

        • 2012-01-01 00159, 2012

      • reosarevok just added the basic stuff, but has nothing against the page being made more useful

        • 2012-01-01 00107, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        For people who aren't sure what some of them should mean (eg not everyone knows what a madrigal is)

        • 2012-01-01 00114, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        Cool.

        • 2012-01-01 00116, 2012

      • reosarevok
        ruaok's page did have examples after all, but they linked to releases

        • 2012-01-01 00127, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (as works weren't added when that was made I guess)

        • 2012-01-01 00143, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        Hmm. For now, I'm going to fight with lisp code, but maybe I'll come back to this!

        • 2012-01-01 00152, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Ok :)

        • 2012-01-01 00150, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I am wondering about "song". Although it technically expects words

        • 2012-01-01 00130, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        Mendelssohn springs to mind...

        • 2012-01-01 00133, 2012

      • reosarevok
        both some popular pieces usually considered "songs" and stuff like the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songs_Without_Words might be set

        • 2012-01-01 00138, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yeah :p

        • 2012-01-01 00139, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        Exactly!

        • 2012-01-01 00106, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        Meh. I'm pretty ambivalent about it. Frankly, I don't think the work types will be very useful.

        • 2012-01-01 00125, 2012

      • reosarevok
        While I don't expect them to be amazingly useful

        • 2012-01-01 00136, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        Unless maybe someone makes a tagging based version. (Not necessarily the current tags system, but something else which allows multiple work types)

        • 2012-01-01 00137, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I would like to be able to filter a work list by, say, operas

        • 2012-01-01 00110, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        More exciting for me would be allowing only top-level works on a work list. IE, allow me to remove any works that are marked as part of a parent work.

        • 2012-01-01 00122, 2012

      • reosarevok
        That's a different idea

        • 2012-01-01 00127, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But you don't necessarily want that

        • 2012-01-01 00136, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        Well, I meant as an option.

        • 2012-01-01 00137, 2012

      • reosarevok
        You probably want to remove *movements*

        • 2012-01-01 00148, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But not stuff like..

        • 2012-01-01 00148, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        Yes, but that's how they're stored, right?

        • 2012-01-01 00158, 2012

      • reosarevok
        http://musicbrainz.org/work/6839959f-e575-4b56-8a…

        • 2012-01-01 00110, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        Ahah!

        • 2012-01-01 00120, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        I've not been doing that sort of grouping for that reason :-)

        • 2012-01-01 00129, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        Hmm, maybe works need a separate "top-level" flag.

        • 2012-01-01 00133, 2012

      • reosarevok
        For your list, it's more likely that you'd want to remove Cello Sonatas nos. 1 & 2, Op. 5

        • 2012-01-01 00134, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yeah

        • 2012-01-01 00157, 2012

      • reosarevok
        CallerNo6 was suggesting renaming "type" to "form"

        • 2012-01-01 00113, 2012

      • reosarevok
        And add "type", being "work", "superwork", "movement/part"

        • 2012-01-01 00123, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (names are placeholder-ish)

        • 2012-01-01 00110, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        Yep, sounds good. Although I'd suggest just finding a new word: otherwise things like the webservice will become out of sync with names.

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      • reosarevok
        Work level would work

        • 2012-01-01 00130, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Dunno

        • 2012-01-01 00144, 2012

      • kovacsur
        reosarevok: in case you haven't updated yet, http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/121723

        • 2012-01-01 00157, 2012

      • kovacsur
        I've merged the pastebin version with the public one

        • 2012-01-01 00103, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I hadn't! :

        • 2012-01-01 00105, 2012

      • reosarevok
        *:)

        • 2012-01-01 00139, 2012

      • reosarevok
        heh

        • 2012-01-01 00108, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I had 3 different versions of it installed

        • 2012-01-01 00114, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I guess "symphonic poem" would be a reasonable addition to the list too, now that I think about it

        • 2012-01-01 00146, 2012

      • kovacsur
        what about operetta?

        • 2012-01-01 00107, 2012

      • reosarevok hasn't added any

        • 2012-01-01 00110, 2012

      • reosarevok
        So I don't know :)

        • 2012-01-01 00112, 2012

      • kovacsur
        it's still very popular in Hungary, and I assume, Austria

        • 2012-01-01 00115, 2012

      • CatCat
        [11:44] * reosarevok gets a perfect suggestion of works through bitmap's script and saves 14 clicks

        • 2012-01-01 00122, 2012

      • CatCat
        what new script is this?

        • 2012-01-01 00127, 2012

      • CatCat
        also bitmap indeed rules

        • 2012-01-01 00134, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Latest version of the "batch add performance"

        • 2012-01-01 00158, 2012

      • CatCat
        hm!

        • 2012-01-01 00108, 2012

      • CatCat
        also god nytt år!

        • 2012-01-01 00112, 2012

      • reosarevok
        kovacsur: I am not familiar enough with it to know - as I avoid opera and its relatives as much as I can because of how annoying to enter they are :)

        • 2012-01-01 00117, 2012

      • CatCat
        og takk for det gamle!

        • 2012-01-01 00129, 2012

      • CatCat
        we say her, happy new years

        • 2012-01-01 00137, 2012

      • CatCat
        "and thank you for the old"

        • 2012-01-01 00140, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        And what does she reply?

        • 2012-01-01 00142, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (the zarzuela thing is a necessary evil as it's one of Spain's most popular genres, so I had to ask for it :p)

        • 2012-01-01 00156, 2012

      • kovacsur
        well, operetta is similar over here. :)

        • 2012-01-01 00158, 2012

      • kovacsur
        I detest it

        • 2012-01-01 00103, 2012

      • kovacsur
        but it's popular

        • 2012-01-01 00117, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Well, you could request it

        • 2012-01-01 00125, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Apparently it requires an RFC

        • 2012-01-01 00141, 2012

      • CatCat
        aw man don't ignore me :(

        • 2012-01-01 00141, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But not a lot more

        • 2012-01-01 00150, 2012

      • reosarevok
        CatCat: I didn't!

        • 2012-01-01 00155, 2012

      • CatCat
        i.. i'm usign opera browser if it's anything?

        • 2012-01-01 00156, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        CatCat: Happy New Year!

        • 2012-01-01 00157, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I sent you a postcard saying that ;)

        • 2012-01-01 00102, 2012

      • CatCat
        \o/

        • 2012-01-01 00107, 2012

      • CatCat
        yay i hope ot get it soon

        • 2012-01-01 00115, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (no idea when it will arrive - a week I guess)

        • 2012-01-01 00137, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (but well, it's still "happy the other 355 or so days of 2012!" :p)

        • 2012-01-01 00104, 2012

      • CatCat
        any way in norwegian it's "Godt Nytt år"

        • 2012-01-01 00134, 2012

      • CatCat
        well god new year is literal translatino and so it iuncludes all the other days :P

        • 2012-01-01 00136, 2012

      • reosarevok thought the � thing was Swedish-only until recently

        • 2012-01-01 00159, 2012

      • CatCat
        also if you say that, itleast the first or os week o might get a "og takk for det gamle" in reply

        • 2012-01-01 00117, 2012

      • CatCat
        which is "thanks for the old (year)"

        • 2012-01-01 00129, 2012

      • CatCat
        what thing?

        • 2012-01-01 00140, 2012

      • reosarevok
        The letter

        • 2012-01-01 00145, 2012

      • CatCat
        letter?

        • 2012-01-01 00147, 2012

      • reosarevok
        �

        • 2012-01-01 00158, 2012

      • CatCat
        what letter? the writign newyears cards?

        • 2012-01-01 00105, 2012

      • reosarevok
        No, "�" letter

        • 2012-01-01 00111, 2012

      • CatCat
        ""?

        • 2012-01-01 00111, 2012

      • reosarevok
        The a with a circle on top

        • 2012-01-01 00117, 2012

      • CatCat
        å?