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      • frewsxcv
        i want a music player that revolves around musicbrainz. if i were to import an album into the player, i would assign it an MBID, and tags would auto update
      • 2012-02-01 03206, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        you may like the concept for riker then :)
      • 2012-02-01 03214, 2012

      • frewsxcv
        riker?
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      • ianmcorvidae
        kepstin's player
      • 2012-02-01 03237, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        https://github.com/kepstin/riker pre-pre-alpha at the moment
      • 2012-02-01 03250, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        i.e. doesn't actually play music nor have complete DB functionality, etc
      • 2012-02-01 03202, 2012

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      • CatCat
        [16:59] xplt I </3 Opera :(
      • 2012-02-01 03233, 2012

      • CatCat
        loi wheni read that I was like "what's release with opera gone wrong agin?" or something
      • 2012-02-01 03249, 2012

      • CatCat
        aah, lilleman, en svenske! hei hei!
      • 2012-02-01 03202, 2012

      • CatCat
        skandinavier tar over!! >)
      • 2012-02-01 03247, 2012

      • derwin
        OMG THE LULZ
      • 2012-02-01 03248, 2012

      • derwin
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      • derwin
        I am going to put out a record with the same name
      • 2012-02-01 03203, 2012

      • derwin
        as this guy
      • 2012-02-01 03205, 2012

      • derwin
        whose artist name is
      • 2012-02-01 03208, 2012

      • derwin
        "Motion (2)"
      • 2012-02-01 03212, 2012

      • derwin
        so that on discogs my release
      • 2012-02-01 03217, 2012

      • derwin
        will belong to
      • 2012-02-01 03225, 2012

      • derwin
        "Motion (2)(2)"
      • 2012-02-01 03245, 2012

      • CatCat
        [08:38] ianmcorvidae we have unsecured wireless or other unsecured wireless (one of them has a once-per-semester
      • 2012-02-01 03248, 2012

      • CatCat
        JELOUS!
      • 2012-02-01 03202, 2012

      • CatCat
        my school is PARANOID to the extreemewhen it comes to security
      • 2012-02-01 03242, 2012

      • CatCat
        [09:16] kepstin-laptop dynamic playlist: songs released in the 1980s with vocals performed by a female
      • 2012-02-01 03243, 2012

      • CatCat
        [09:16] kepstin-laptop wouldn't playlists like that be ridiculously awesome?
      • 2012-02-01 03245, 2012

      • CatCat
        yes
      • 2012-02-01 03249, 2012

      • CatCat
        yes they would
      • 2012-02-01 03243, 2012

      • jacobbrett
        derwin: Isn't that just the system Discogs uses for multiple artists with the same name?
      • 2012-02-01 03203, 2012

      • CatCat
        yes it is but his guy is called moting (2) in porpewr afaik
      • 2012-02-01 03205, 2012

      • CatCat
        motion
      • 2012-02-01 03246, 2012

      • CatCat
        it almost looks like he did it on purpose cause of discogs
      • 2012-02-01 03240, 2012

      • CatCat
        hey derwin, do you have last.fm?
      • 2012-02-01 03241, 2012

      • derwin
        jacobbrett: that's my point is, his normal name is Motion (2)
      • 2012-02-01 03201, 2012

      • jacobbrett
        Ah
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      • CatCat
        anyway now i have freinded lotsa people , help me bump sigil of my userbox x. plz? I'm sick of it being there for like a year or whatever. http://www.last.fm/user/Nasasie
      • 2012-02-01 03211, 2012

      • flamingspinach
      • 2012-02-01 03217, 2012

      • flamingspinach
        do artist credits have an independent existence?
      • 2012-02-01 03230, 2012

      • flamingspinach
        I thought they only existed as components of a tracklist of a medium
      • 2012-02-01 03257, 2012

      • flamingspinach
        but I don't see a link to said medium on this edit's page
      • 2012-02-01 03223, 2012

      • flamingspinach
        then again nor do I see a link a page for the purported artist credit object, which I suppose should exist if artist credits do have an independent existence
      • 2012-02-01 03221, 2012

      • CatCat
        it's case there has been name changes
      • 2012-02-01 03249, 2012

      • CatCat
        they guy didn't do enough research when adding the first artists. so now everyone is runnign around renaming nad merging his adds XD
      • 2012-02-01 03258, 2012

      • CatCat
        to be fair he tries ot fix it too
      • 2012-02-01 03251, 2012

      • cloq
        now that's one juicy shoutbox
      • 2012-02-01 03210, 2012

      • CatCat
        yes
      • 2012-02-01 03238, 2012

      • CatCat
        please fill it with derp or nyancat or whatever
      • 2012-02-01 03246, 2012

      • CatCat
        i want his bullshit of my page
      • 2012-02-01 03213, 2012

      • cloq
        apparently you cherish it to some extent
      • 2012-02-01 03218, 2012

      • cloq
        or you don't know you can just delete it
      • 2012-02-01 03242, 2012

      • CatCat
        no you got it wrong. i keep it bnecause i don't delete comments
      • 2012-02-01 03249, 2012

      • cloq
        haha ok
      • 2012-02-01 03215, 2012

      • CatCat
        i make qa point of not deletign comments. especially since *H*e did also delete my comments (and the comments of anyone who disagrees with him)
      • 2012-02-01 03229, 2012

      • CatCat
        ok :)
      • 2012-02-01 03254, 2012

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      • mat_
        in the track parser I currently have X.<tab>track<tab>artist<tab>(duration) but the artists don't seem to be parsed right, what's the format I should use ?
      • 2012-02-01 03249, 2012

      • nikki
        1. title - artist (duration)
      • 2012-02-01 03246, 2012

      • mat_
        ah, yes, great :-)
      • 2012-02-01 03206, 2012

      • nikki
        and if you have a jira account, voting on http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-2120 to show your support for more than just that would also be nice :)
      • 2012-02-01 03242, 2012

      • mat_
        I'll have a look at that when I'm done :-)
      • 2012-02-01 03215, 2012

      • mat_
        also, there are a few tracks with (feat: someone) I see there is a "credits" link for each track, is that what it's for ?
      • 2012-02-01 03239, 2012

      • nikki
        among other things, yes
      • 2012-02-01 03234, 2012

      • nikki
        it lets you credit multiple artists and/or artists using a variation of their name, so if "artist a" and "artist b" do a song together as "a & b", you can link both artists *and* say "artist a" was credited as just "a" and "artist b" was credited as just "b"
      • 2012-02-01 03256, 2012

      • mat_
        yes, got that
      • 2012-02-01 03206, 2012

      • nikki
        for featuring artists, we stick to " feat. " as the "join phrase" (the text that links the two artists)
      • 2012-02-01 03236, 2012

      • nikki
        (there's more examples of how to enter them at http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Style/Titles/Featured… )
      • 2012-02-01 03236, 2012

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      • mat_
        ok, it's nicer than the old release creation workflow
      • 2012-02-01 03238, 2012

      • nikki
        flamingspinach: I suppose it depends how you define independent existence. they do have their own database table and are used outside of tracklists (release artist, release group artist, recording artist...)
      • 2012-02-01 03236, 2012

      • flamingspinach
        nikki: so if I set two tracks to the same artist credit, and then I edit one, does the other one change too because they're "the same artist credit object"?
      • 2012-02-01 03247, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Ideally, yes
      • 2012-02-01 03251, 2012

      • flamingspinach
        or do I, by changing the tracklist, replace the artist credit object with a different artist credit object?
      • 2012-02-01 03251, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Right now... sometimes
      • 2012-02-01 03254, 2012

      • flamingspinach
        reosarevok: !?
      • 2012-02-01 03257, 2012

      • flamingspinach
        that sounds like a terrible idea to me
      • 2012-02-01 03201, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Oh, wait
      • 2012-02-01 03205, 2012

      • reosarevok
        From a tracklist?
      • 2012-02-01 03206, 2012

      • reosarevok
        No
      • 2012-02-01 03207, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :)
      • 2012-02-01 03218, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I thought you meant if you actually edit the *artist credit*
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      • flamingspinach
        where else could you change it from?
      • 2012-02-01 03225, 2012

      • reosarevok
        From the Aliases tab
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      • flamingspinach
        that's what I'm saying, I don't see an "artist credit page" anywhere
      • 2012-02-01 03242, 2012

      • flamingspinach
        huh, artist credits appear as aliases?
      • 2012-02-01 03249, 2012

      • nikki
        flamingspinach: no
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      • reosarevok
        An option to filter by them is in the works, I think luks was working on it
      • 2012-02-01 03251, 2012

      • flamingspinach
        if so, that explains how this works, I guess
      • 2012-02-01 03255, 2012

      • reosarevok
        No, they are in the same tab :)
      • 2012-02-01 03258, 2012

      • flamingspinach
        oh.
      • 2012-02-01 03258, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Go look!
      • 2012-02-01 03202, 2012

      • flamingspinach
        hehe
      • 2012-02-01 03214, 2012

      • nikki
        if you want to update an artist credit for everything using the same one, you have to go to the artist's aliases tab and do it there
      • 2012-02-01 03232, 2012

      • flamingspinach
        aha!!
      • 2012-02-01 03233, 2012

      • flamingspinach
        I see :D
      • 2012-02-01 03234, 2012

      • nikki
        editing an individual one only edits that individual one (rows in the table are added/removed as necessary)
      • 2012-02-01 03236, 2012

      • flamingspinach
        I didn't notice that before
      • 2012-02-01 03244, 2012

      • flamingspinach
        great, that's the behavior I would expect :)
      • 2012-02-01 03257, 2012

      • flamingspinach
        so I guess the guy who made the edit I linked must have edited the artist credit from the artist's aliases page
      • 2012-02-01 03220, 2012

      • flamingspinach
        but I guess I should vote against it since her romanized name appears on the official tracklist of the release, which is the whole point of having artist credits :)
      • 2012-02-01 03243, 2012

      • reosarevok
        flamingspinach: the artist credits can be changed while changing the actual artist name too
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      • reosarevok
        So it might also be because of that
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      • reosarevok is not too happy with the way that's done now
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      • flamingspinach
        bbl
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      • reosarevok
        VxJasonxV, added a few links to your Parsers page
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      • reosarevok
        hrglgrmpf, are you also planning to try and manually relate the 100-ish NULL reviews?
      • 2012-02-01 03258, 2012

      • reosarevok
        In case you do, please compile a list for me to send to the BBC if you can :)
      • 2012-02-01 03247, 2012

      • reosarevok mails enjayhch to let him know
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      • ocharles
        NULL reviews?
      • 2012-02-01 03232, 2012

      • reosarevok
        BBC reviews that map to NULL instead of an MBID
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      • reosarevok
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      • ocharles
        got a specific edit/example?
      • 2012-02-01 03207, 2012

      • reosarevok
        No / yes :p
      • 2012-02-01 03218, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I mean, the mapping is done by the BBC
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      • reosarevok
        Not by MB
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      • reosarevok
        It has nothing to do with us
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      • reosarevok
        The thing is hrglgrmpf is taking a dump enjayhch gave us to relate them all in MB
      • 2012-02-01 03256, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But there is a bunch of them who don't have an MBID
      • 2012-02-01 03202, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (but NULL)
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      • reosarevok
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      • ocharles
        oh I see
      • 2012-02-01 03228, 2012

      • ocharles
        so they've reviewed stuff that they don't have an MBID for
      • 2012-02-01 03231, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yeah
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      • ocharles
        I thought you meant there were reviews that pointed to an MBID that we don't have
      • 2012-02-01 03241, 2012

      • ocharles
        gotcha
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      • reosarevok
        enjayhch said finding the MBIDs for it is in their to-do list
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      • reosarevok
        But pretty low in it
      • 2012-02-01 03259, 2012

      • reosarevok
        So if hrglgrmpf plans to do it, giving the info to them would be sweet
      • 2012-02-01 03257, 2012

      • ocharles
        yea, they just need to be able to query /ws/2/url and it's practically a solved problem for them :)
      • 2012-02-01 03206, 2012

      • ocharles
        (and more motivation for us to add /ws/2/url)
      • 2012-02-01 03258, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Not completely, because we store them at RG level
      • 2012-02-01 03214, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But it's definitely a good help
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      • hrglgrmpf
        reosarevok: sorry, my notification irssi-script seems to be non-functional :-)
      • 2012-02-01 03206, 2012

      • hrglgrmpf
        well, it would be good if the BBC had a better way for us to give feedback for incorrect/missing stuff
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      • hrglgrmpf
        a more "direct" way
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      • reosarevok
        A more mechanical way you mean?
      • 2012-02-01 03202, 2012

      • reosarevok
        As opposed to mailing and saying?
      • 2012-02-01 03227, 2012

      • hrglgrmpf
        if such a channel would exist, and if giving feedback over it would result in some timely change, I think I might manually contribute some review-MBID mapping (but not for all...)
      • 2012-02-01 03236, 2012

      • hrglgrmpf
        no, mailing and saying would be perfectly fine
      • 2012-02-01 03206, 2012

      • hrglgrmpf
        I just need an address where I don't have to write 2 paragraphs of stuff so that I get directed to the right person
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      • reosarevok
        I was told by enjayhch that for these reviews, if we give him the info he'll see to them being linked
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      • reosarevok creates a wiki page for this
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      • hrglgrmpf
        so how do I reach him :-)?
      • 2012-02-01 03232, 2012

      • hrglgrmpf
        that would be perfect!