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      • ianweller
        but that's just me with an opinion made up on the spot
      • 2012-05-01 12234, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        I've been doing front, back, medium, spines, inner covers, booklet, other stuff
      • 2012-05-01 12221, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :D
      • 2012-05-01 12224, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I see we all agree
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      • ianmcorvidae
        on 'front' being first we do ;)
      • 2012-05-01 12211, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        really my ordering was pretty much arbitrary; until there's style guidelines I think it's just gonna be "whatever sorta makes sense"
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      • hawke_1
        Front to back, mine would be front, booklet, inner cover, inner cover, medium, back, spine. I guess.
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      • ianmcorvidae
        which probably amounts to "put front first" + "keep booklets in order" and really nothing else :P
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      • hawke_1
        at least for the release I’m working on
      • 2012-05-01 12210, 2012

      • hawke_1
        How about comments. I’m putting “page x” for the booklets
      • 2012-05-01 12218, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah, I've been doing that
      • 2012-05-01 12229, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        there's a question of whether the front cover is page 1 or whether the next page after that is though
      • 2012-05-01 12232, 2012

      • hawke_1
        and a general description like “inner cover left” for any "other" ones
      • 2012-05-01 12245, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        (I've been doing e.g. front, page 1-10, back)
      • 2012-05-01 12250, 2012

      • hawke_1
        ianmcorvidae: I would say follow book format
      • 2012-05-01 12259, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        I'm not sure what you mean by that :P
      • 2012-05-01 12222, 2012

      • hawke_1
        odd pages on the right
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      • hawke_1
        so cover page 1
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      • ianmcorvidae
        ah
      • 2012-05-01 12240, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        so not what I'm doing :P
      • 2012-05-01 12256, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        we'll need to develop style eventually, is what it really comes down to
      • 2012-05-01 12258, 2012

      • hawke_1
        or 'cover', 'inner cover left', 'page x…' 'inner cover right' 'back'
      • 2012-05-01 12205, 2012

      • hawke_1
        ianmcorvidae: Exactly. :-)
      • 2012-05-01 12223, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        we also need more types
      • 2012-05-01 12225, 2012

      • hawke_1
        Not what I did with my first release either, but thinking about it, it would make sense I think
      • 2012-05-01 12230, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        e.g. tray :P
      • 2012-05-01 12232, 2012

      • hawke_1
        Yes
      • 2012-05-01 12247, 2012

      • hawke_1
        I’m trying to restrict my comments mostly to that format
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      • hawke_1
        something I would like to be a type, or a type+number
      • 2012-05-01 12215, 2012

      • hawke_1
        or I guess other attribute
      • 2012-05-01 12246, 2012

      • ianweller
        for pages i did 1/16, 2/16, etc
      • 2012-05-01 12217, 2012

      • ianweller
        er, for comments of a booklet
      • 2012-05-01 12232, 2012

      • hawke_1
        ianmcorvidae: I’m doing mine as separate pages
      • 2012-05-01 12245, 2012

      • hawke_1
        my scanning app (Gnome’s Simple-scan) makes changing the crop easy
      • 2012-05-01 12201, 2012

      • ianweller
        mine was odd though, the PDF was made to have 2 pages per "page" and i was too lazy to split
      • 2012-05-01 12251, 2012

      • ianweller
        dunno if i should fix that tomorrow (cancel, split, reupload)
      • 2012-05-01 12256, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        sometimes 2 pages in one image is better, if it's an image that spreads across two pages
      • 2012-05-01 12200, 2012

      • hawke_1
        wow, reordering is a pain in the ass
      • 2012-05-01 12209, 2012

      • hawke_1 wants drag-and-drop
      • 2012-05-01 12209, 2012

      • ianweller
        ianmcorvidae: it isn't though :)
      • 2012-05-01 12211, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        this release I'm uploading now I actually scanned the two booklets (yes, it has two) differently
      • 2012-05-01 12229, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        because one had images across spreads, the other had discrete pages
      • 2012-05-01 12233, 2012

      • ianweller
        i need to find a large format scanner for this van she booklet
      • 2012-05-01 12249, 2012

      • ianweller
        i think my university has one somewhere. i should investigate before summer
      • 2012-05-01 12215, 2012

      • hawke_1
        Alright…my first release completely scanned: http://musicbrainz.org/release/32ecec2d-804d-4023…
      • 2012-05-01 12232, 2012

      • hawke_1
        Shit, I need to rotate and re-upload the medium
      • 2012-05-01 12237, 2012

      • reosarevok
        hawke_1: I think the devs tried and it was too hard to code fast or whatever
      • 2012-05-01 12255, 2012

      • hawke_1
        reosarevok: rotate, or drag-and-drop?
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      • hawke_1
        reosarevok: Either way, it applies I suppose
      • 2012-05-01 12213, 2012

      • reosarevok
        D&D
      • 2012-05-01 12255, 2012

      • hawke_1
        Not a big problem anyway…at least we can reorder. Just fine for a first draft.
      • 2012-05-01 12233, 2012

      • hawke_1
        Images seem to be getting processed a lot faster than they were earlier today
      • 2012-05-01 12202, 2012

      • hawke_1
        Alright, medium orientation fixed.
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      • hawke_1
        Anybody see anything I screwed up?
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      • reosarevok
        I think it depends on the server you hit or something
      • 2012-05-01 12221, 2012

      • ianweller
        hawke_1: i noticed that too
      • 2012-05-01 12221, 2012

      • hawke_1
        Too many clicks to get to the standalone cover image. :-/
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      • ianweller
        in fact i had to reupload my first image
      • 2012-05-01 12256, 2012

      • ianweller
        didn't show up even after 5 hours
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      • ianweller -> sleep
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      • reosarevok
        :)
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      • hawke_1 is off to sleep
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      • CatCat
        I'd set those all to "[unknown]" with artist credits http://musicbrainz.org/release/a12a8a75-f68b-4061…
      • 2012-05-01 12247, 2012

      • CatCat just noticed
      • 2012-05-01 12251, 2012

      • CatCat
        ZOMGHOMG COVERS!!!!!!!
      • 2012-05-01 12258, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Hmm, actually that kinda makes sense in NGS, yeah
      • 2012-05-01 12202, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Wizzcat, opinion?
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      • CatCat
        yea
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      • CatCat
        reosarevok: COVERSSSSS
      • 2012-05-01 12258, 2012

      • CatCat
        ..wait what eher is my collections?
      • 2012-05-01 12209, 2012

      • CatCat
        "You have no collections!"
      • 2012-05-01 12211, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        CatCat: it's broken on the cover art tab, there's a bug filed
      • 2012-05-01 12212, 2012

      • CatCat
        that's wrong
      • 2012-05-01 12214, 2012

      • CatCat
        I do have that
      • 2012-05-01 12221, 2012

      • CatCat
        oh. ok!
      • 2012-05-01 12222, 2012

      • CatCat
        good
      • 2012-05-01 12223, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah, it should work everywhere but the cover art tab
      • 2012-05-01 12225, 2012

      • CatCat
        puh
      • 2012-05-01 12245, 2012

      • CatCat was afraid there a second that everything was BALETED
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      • CatCat
        wait so question: the "add a barcode get cover from amazon" thing is turned offnow, right?
      • 2012-05-01 12217, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        no, it still does that if there's nothing in the CAA
      • 2012-05-01 12234, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        I think basically it goes: if there's something in the CAA, it uses it, otherwise it uses the old methods
      • 2012-05-01 12219, 2012

      • CatCat
        well that's strange because http://musicbrainz.org/release/fdfdf717-c568-4507… has a link to CAA but nothing is linekd
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      • CatCat
        also if you clcik it it says "doesn't have a link thing"
      • 2012-05-01 12243, 2012

      • CatCat
        No front cover image found for release with identifier fdfdf717-c568-4507-b28b-1262990887e9
      • 2012-05-01 12251, 2012

      • CatCat
        so it assumed cover is fro mCAA
      • 2012-05-01 12221, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        CatCat: it shows up for me
      • 2012-05-01 12229, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        probably archive.org hadn't finished processing it yet
      • 2012-05-01 12234, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        it takes a second for the thumbnails to get created
      • 2012-05-01 12252, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        oh, er
      • 2012-05-01 12253, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        hm
      • 2012-05-01 12259, 2012

      • CatCat
        git :P
      • 2012-05-01 12201, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        I see it from the barcode
      • 2012-05-01 12224, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        heh, though the link is to a nonexistent CAA thing
      • 2012-05-01 12230, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        which is just an error
      • 2012-05-01 12242, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
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      • CatCat
        of course it is, becasue i linked usign old amazon lnik
      • 2012-05-01 12210, 2012

      • CatCat
        rel
      • 2012-05-01 12225, 2012

      • CatCat
        but what I want to know is can i safely actually put in a barcode?
      • 2012-05-01 12213, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        not sure, I don't know if ASIN or barcode has higher priority
      • 2012-05-01 12217, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        though it should be ASIN, seems like
      • 2012-05-01 12257, 2012

      • CatCat
        >_<
      • 2012-05-01 12223, 2012

      • CatCat
        priosirt?! NO, the barcode -> fetch coverfro mamazon shoudl be removed copmpeltely
      • 2012-05-01 12246, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        not under my control :)
      • 2012-05-01 12201, 2012

      • CatCat
        priority?! NO, the barcode -> fetch cover from amazon should be removed completely
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      • reosarevok
        ASIN
      • 2012-05-01 12216, 2012

      • CatCat
        I DONT UNDERSTAND
      • 2012-05-01 12228, 2012

      • CatCat
        >_<
      • 2012-05-01 12239, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Well, it seems people didn't care to remove it
      • 2012-05-01 12242, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        CatCat: nothing is changed other than the CAA now existing; any previously-made poor decisions still exist :P
      • 2012-05-01 12250, 2012

      • CatCat
        damn
      • 2012-05-01 12257, 2012

      • CatCat
        why the fuck cant we remove that ?
      • 2012-05-01 12224, 2012

      • CatCat
        it was a bogus "interim" idea that should have been removed by now
      • 2012-05-01 12239, 2012

      • CatCat
        because peopel are to fuckign impatient
      • 2012-05-01 12248, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        go ahead and write a patch and submit it to codereview :P
      • 2012-05-01 12251, 2012

      • CatCat
        ocharles, warp ruaok, COME ON NOW
      • 2012-05-01 12258, 2012

      • CatCat
        ianmcorvidae: also fuck you
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      • mat_
        ok, so, covers
      • 2012-05-01 12249, 2012

      • mat_
        let's look at the rules
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      • adhawkins
        CatCat: Why the aversion to using amazon covers?
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      • reosarevok
        adhawkins: his problem is with using auto-sourced barcode covers
      • 2012-05-01 12256, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Because sometimes the results are... sad
      • 2012-05-01 12216, 2012

      • adhawkins
        What, you mean for the wrong release?
      • 2012-05-01 12218, 2012

      • adhawkins
        How can that happen?
      • 2012-05-01 12226, 2012

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        lolamazon
      • 2012-05-01 12228, 2012

      • reosarevok
        For example, a bootleg which uses a random barcode will get the image of a facial cream :p
      • 2012-05-01 12244, 2012

      • adhawkins
        Oh ok. Well, surely the issue there is that the bootleg shouldn't have a barcode?
      • 2012-05-01 12248, 2012

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        also it's generally bad that stuff gets auto added
      • 2012-05-01 12252, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But it does have it
      • 2012-05-01 12257, 2012

      • reosarevok
        The problem anyway
      • 2012-05-01 12257, 2012

      • adhawkins
        I was actually considering adding barcode lookup to flactag
      • 2012-05-01 12206, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Is not really that it gets added
      • 2012-05-01 12211, 2012

      • reosarevok
        It's that it can't get removed
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        that's to oa problem
      • 2012-05-01 12223, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Since there's no "remove this cover" option for the barcode-sourced thing
      • 2012-05-01 12239, 2012

      • reosarevok
        So it's usually right, but when it's not it can't be fixed