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reosarevok adds a note about not using exec on recordings to the relationship description
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reosarevok
If someone disagrees they can come and tell me
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hawke_
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navap
Why shouldn't recordings have exec producers?
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1:19 AM
reosarevok
Because exec producers are a release-dependent thing
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navap
They are?
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reosarevok
Yeah
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reosarevok
Which is why compilations have exec producers
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reosarevok fixes more Estonian classical
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derwin
musicbrainz solr affected by leapsecond issue?
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derwin
(musicbrainz uses solr, right?)
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JoeLlama wants a yamaha dx-7
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derwin
heh, I used to have one of those
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derwin
hoover bass
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ianmcorvidae
we don't use solr, it's a custom lucene-based system
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ianmcorvidae
a bunch of our servers had ntpd turned off to deal with a leapsecond issue though
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derwin
" Nielsen reported that, in 2011, there were 76,875 albums that sold at least one copy. "
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derr84
reissues included I think...
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pankkake
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12:45 PM
warp
haha
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12:46 PM
pankkake
It's just my best example of sloppy bot edit / voting, but it's far from the only one
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12:46 PM
pankkake
I am really angry because no one seems to listen
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12:47 PM
warp
that the bot gets it wrong is to be expected I guess. but the human editors voting yes obviously should know better.
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12:47 PM
pankkake
the number of bot edits are overwhelming
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12:47 PM
pankkake
my only option is to stop caring about anything not in my subscribed artists
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12:47 PM
pankkake
good job.
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12:48 PM
warp
in general they do a good job though.
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pankkake
yes, because there are sanity checks. this kind of edit does not
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Wizzcat
didn't know bots did destructive edits :/
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12:55 PM
Wizzcat
I actually filter them out of my voting view since there's too many of them
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12:57 PM
CatCat
they shouldn't remove stuff it think
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12:57 PM
CatCat
nore merge/move/delete
2012-07-01 18359, 2012
12:57 PM
CatCat
"editor type" should be a condition. liek automod, editor bot etc
2012-07-01 18316, 2012
12:58 PM
CatCat
not just "is autoedit or is not autoedit
2012-07-01 18337, 2012
13:00 PM
Wizzcat
it did catch the error of a release being assigned to russia before 1991 though, so that's nice
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CatCat
Wizzcat: heh yes that's true
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dog_chocolate
hi asking because i did it wrojng last time.
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14:26 PM
dog_chocolate
adding a track with multiple artists, i.e. artist is "Mark Denardo + Miles Tilmann", what's the correct format?
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14:26 PM
reosarevok
Press "credits"
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14:27 PM
reosarevok
And enter Mark Denardo in the first field, + in the join phrase field, and Miles Tillman in the second artist field
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14:27 PM
reosarevok
(you'll need to press "add new artist" for the second field to appear)
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14:27 PM
dog_chocolate
great ta
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14:29 PM
dog_chocolate
and is there a way to upload album covers along witha release?
2012-07-01 18304, 2012
14:30 PM
reosarevok
Once you have added the release
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14:30 PM
reosarevok
Click on its "Cover Art" tab
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14:30 PM
reosarevok
And you can upload it
2012-07-01 18327, 2012
14:30 PM
reosarevok
(if the mechanism hasn't broken again :/)
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14:31 PM
dog_chocolate
ta, would be nice if that was within the main release adding process really
2012-07-01 18338, 2012
14:31 PM
reosarevok
Well, basically you add it, you end in the release page and it's one click from there
2012-07-01 18351, 2012
14:31 PM
reosarevok
It's not in the main process because very often you don't really have an image
2012-07-01 18301, 2012
14:32 PM
reosarevok
Especially for physical releases, unless you scan them...
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MasterBob
Hello. How can I have Picard not destroy tags when tagging files? For example removing AcoustID tags? or is the AcoustID only removed when the file is not a FLAC?
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pankkake
removing all tags is an option
2012-07-01 18345, 2012
14:56 PM
pankkake
Before tagging / Clear existing tags
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14:57 PM
pankkake
however some formats might not have a field to put acoustid?
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14:58 PM
MasterBob
Okay, thanks pankkake.
2012-07-01 18300, 2012
15:00 PM
MasterBob
I only want to keep the AcoustID if it's lossless, else I don't see the point in keeping that data
2012-07-01 18303, 2012
15:03 PM
jacobbrett
You might be able to script Picard to detect if the file is not FLAC and "unset" the acoustid field. Why would it be pointless? In my experience, AcoustIDs can be shared between subtly different mixes, let alone lossy vs. lossless audio.
2012-07-01 18329, 2012
15:03 PM
MasterBob
hmmm....
2012-07-01 18354, 2012
15:03 PM
MasterBob
whoops, I was getting confused with AcoustID and the accurateRip DB
2012-07-01 18316, 2012
15:04 PM
MasterBob
But yeah, If it has an AcoustID I wouldn't want it removed.
2012-07-01 18348, 2012
15:08 PM
MasterBob
With Picard can I show more Columns in the cluster area? i.e. release type?
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15:26 PM
pankkake
it's removing a perfectly valid link?
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15:27 PM
pankkake
all data matches, but the bot does not compare the country well (and country is the less relevant detail of a release ever)
2012-07-01 18329, 2012
15:27 PM
hawke_
Not if the rest of the data about the release is correct.
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15:27 PM
reosarevok
"History, geography. Learn it." lol
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15:27 PM
pankkake
it's a removal
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15:27 PM
pankkake
I am really PISSED at those edits.
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15:29 PM
hawke_
USSR != Russia though -- if it was in fact released in Russia rather than the USSR, that link is not correct in some way
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15:29 PM
pankkake
I am more pissed about the votes actually
2012-07-01 18311, 2012
15:29 PM
hawke_
Anyway, most people voted no on it
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15:29 PM
pankkake
yes, because I caught it
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15:29 PM
pankkake
I spent the whole day looking at those crappy edits
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15:29 PM
pankkake
which all have votes by the same editors who don't bother to check
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15:30 PM
pankkake
so now I vote no, and don't bother to check. why should I?
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15:30 PM
pankkake
and even voting no, with an automated javascript, takes time. they obviously didn't even look at the edit notes
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15:30 PM
pankkake
did I say I'm pissed?
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15:31 PM
reosarevok
I think you did
2012-07-01 18327, 2012
15:31 PM
reosarevok
:p
2012-07-01 18315, 2012
15:32 PM
reosarevok
But yeah, I voted on a few, checking the ones which looked dubious (except one I missed and you found)
2012-07-01 18326, 2012
15:32 PM
reosarevok
Then was like "fuck it, this is endless" and went away
2012-07-01 18343, 2012
15:32 PM
reosarevok
Apparently other people were like "fuck it, this is endless" and voted yes on all...
2012-07-01 18359, 2012
15:32 PM
pankkake
many are easily votes yes, I just wish they left the tricky ones
2012-07-01 18348, 2012
15:33 PM
pankkake
yesterday there was only ~500 edits with 2 yes votes so I was more or less able to check
2012-07-01 18325, 2012
15:34 PM
hawke_
People really shouldn't do that
2012-07-01 18337, 2012
15:34 PM
hawke_
if they say "fuck it, this is endless" they should abstain
2012-07-01 18340, 2012
15:34 PM
reosarevok
Yeah
2012-07-01 18349, 2012
15:34 PM
hawke_
but gotta get those voting numbers up 'cos we have stats for that!
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15:34 PM
reosarevok
That sounds obvious to me
2012-07-01 18355, 2012
15:34 PM
reosarevok
But...
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15:35 PM
reosarevok
One specific autoeditor that I won't name voted 21k times in one day, excluding abstains
2012-07-01 18331, 2012
15:35 PM
reosarevok
It's IMPOSSIBLE to do that and still check stuff
2012-07-01 18332, 2012
15:36 PM
pankkake
well it is possible if you only vote on easy edits / have specific searches
2012-07-01 18349, 2012
15:36 PM
reosarevok
No. It's not.
2012-07-01 18355, 2012
15:36 PM
reosarevok
3k? 4k? yeah
2012-07-01 18304, 2012
15:37 PM
reosarevok
But 20k+ in 24h?
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15:37 PM
pankkake
yeah, I don't really realize :p
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15:37 PM
reosarevok
I mean, you vote lots
2012-07-01 18322, 2012
15:37 PM
reosarevok
And still, I think your top has been around 5k
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15:37 PM
reosarevok
In a day
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15:37 PM
pankkake
and right now I do it all day :/