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      • reosarevok adds a note about not using exec on recordings to the relationship description

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      • reosarevok
        If someone disagrees they can come and tell me

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      • hawke_
        hurr durr de durr hurr? http://musicbrainz.org/artist/95a17177-500f-45ea-…

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      • navap
        Why shouldn't recordings have exec producers?

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      • reosarevok
        Because exec producers are a release-dependent thing

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      • navap
        They are?

        • 2012-07-01 18304, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yeah

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      • reosarevok
        Which is why compilations have exec producers

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      • reosarevok fixes more Estonian classical

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      • derwin
        musicbrainz solr affected by leapsecond issue?

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      • derwin
        (musicbrainz uses solr, right?)

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      • JoeLlama wants a yamaha dx-7

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      • derwin
        heh, I used to have one of those

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      • derwin
        hoover bass

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      • ianmcorvidae
        we don't use solr, it's a custom lucene-based system

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      • ianmcorvidae
        a bunch of our servers had ntpd turned off to deal with a leapsecond issue though

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      • derwin
        " Nielsen reported that, in 2011, there were 76,875 albums that sold at least one copy. "

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      • derr84
        reissues included I think...

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      • pankkake
        http://musicbrainz.org/edit/18148823

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      • warp
        haha

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      • pankkake
        It's just my best example of sloppy bot edit / voting, but it's far from the only one

        • 2012-07-01 18353, 2012

      • pankkake
        I am really angry because no one seems to listen

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      • warp
        that the bot gets it wrong is to be expected I guess. but the human editors voting yes obviously should know better.

        • 2012-07-01 18323, 2012

      • pankkake
        the number of bot edits are overwhelming

        • 2012-07-01 18345, 2012

      • pankkake
        my only option is to stop caring about anything not in my subscribed artists

        • 2012-07-01 18348, 2012

      • pankkake
        good job.

        • 2012-07-01 18306, 2012

      • warp
        in general they do a good job though.

        • 2012-07-01 18338, 2012

      • pankkake
        yes, because there are sanity checks. this kind of edit does not

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      • pankkake
        http://musicbrainz.org/search/edits?auto_edit_fil…

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      • Wizzcat
        didn't know bots did destructive edits :/

        • 2012-07-01 18331, 2012

      • Wizzcat
        I actually filter them out of my voting view since there's too many of them

        • 2012-07-01 18303, 2012

      • CatCat
        they shouldn't remove stuff it think

        • 2012-07-01 18312, 2012

      • CatCat
        nore merge/move/delete

        • 2012-07-01 18359, 2012

      • CatCat
        "editor type" should be a condition. liek automod, editor bot etc

        • 2012-07-01 18316, 2012

      • CatCat
        not just "is autoedit or is not autoedit

        • 2012-07-01 18337, 2012

      • Wizzcat
        it did catch the error of a release being assigned to russia before 1991 though, so that's nice

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      • derr84
        pankkake, http://musicbrainz.org/edit/18190719

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      • CatCat
        Wizzcat: heh yes that's true

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      • dog_chocolate
        hi asking because i did it wrojng last time.

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      • dog_chocolate
        adding a track with multiple artists, i.e. artist is "Mark Denardo + Miles Tilmann", what's the correct format?

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      • reosarevok
        Press "credits"

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      • reosarevok
        And enter Mark Denardo in the first field, + in the join phrase field, and Miles Tillman in the second artist field

        • 2012-07-01 18322, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (you'll need to press "add new artist" for the second field to appear)

        • 2012-07-01 18326, 2012

      • dog_chocolate
        great ta

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      • dog_chocolate
        and is there a way to upload album covers along witha release?

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      • reosarevok
        Once you have added the release

        • 2012-07-01 18309, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Click on its "Cover Art" tab

        • 2012-07-01 18319, 2012

      • reosarevok
        And you can upload it

        • 2012-07-01 18327, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (if the mechanism hasn't broken again :/)

        • 2012-07-01 18301, 2012

      • dog_chocolate
        ta, would be nice if that was within the main release adding process really

        • 2012-07-01 18338, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Well, basically you add it, you end in the release page and it's one click from there

        • 2012-07-01 18351, 2012

      • reosarevok
        It's not in the main process because very often you don't really have an image

        • 2012-07-01 18301, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Especially for physical releases, unless you scan them...

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      • MasterBob
        Hello. How can I have Picard not destroy tags when tagging files? For example removing AcoustID tags? or is the AcoustID only removed when the file is not a FLAC?

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      • pankkake
        removing all tags is an option

        • 2012-07-01 18345, 2012

      • pankkake
        Before tagging / Clear existing tags

        • 2012-07-01 18320, 2012

      • pankkake
        however some formats might not have a field to put acoustid?

        • 2012-07-01 18344, 2012

      • MasterBob
        Okay, thanks pankkake.

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      • MasterBob
        I only want to keep the AcoustID if it's lossless, else I don't see the point in keeping that data

        • 2012-07-01 18303, 2012

      • jacobbrett
        You might be able to script Picard to detect if the file is not FLAC and "unset" the acoustid field. Why would it be pointless? In my experience, AcoustIDs can be shared between subtly different mixes, let alone lossy vs. lossless audio.

        • 2012-07-01 18329, 2012

      • MasterBob
        hmmm....

        • 2012-07-01 18354, 2012

      • MasterBob
        whoops, I was getting confused with AcoustID and the accurateRip DB

        • 2012-07-01 18316, 2012

      • MasterBob
        But yeah, If it has an AcoustID I wouldn't want it removed.

        • 2012-07-01 18348, 2012

      • MasterBob
        With Picard can I show more Columns in the cluster area? i.e. release type?

        • 2012-07-01 18334, 2012

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      • hawke_
        pankkake: What's wrong with http://musicbrainz.org/edit/18148823 ?

        • 2012-07-01 18327, 2012

      • pankkake
        it's removing a perfectly valid link?

        • 2012-07-01 18306, 2012

      • pankkake
        all data matches, but the bot does not compare the country well (and country is the less relevant detail of a release ever)

        • 2012-07-01 18329, 2012

      • hawke_
        Not if the rest of the data about the release is correct.

        • 2012-07-01 18339, 2012

      • reosarevok
        "History, geography. Learn it." lol

        • 2012-07-01 18341, 2012

      • pankkake
        it's a removal

        • 2012-07-01 18351, 2012

      • pankkake
        I am really PISSED at those edits.

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      • hawke_
        USSR != Russia though -- if it was in fact released in Russia rather than the USSR, that link is not correct in some way

        • 2012-07-01 18304, 2012

      • pankkake
        I am more pissed about the votes actually

        • 2012-07-01 18311, 2012

      • hawke_
        Anyway, most people voted no on it

        • 2012-07-01 18317, 2012

      • pankkake
        yes, because I caught it

        • 2012-07-01 18330, 2012

      • pankkake
        I spent the whole day looking at those crappy edits

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      • pankkake
        which all have votes by the same editors who don't bother to check

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      • pankkake
        so now I vote no, and don't bother to check. why should I?

        • 2012-07-01 18333, 2012

      • pankkake
        and even voting no, with an automated javascript, takes time. they obviously didn't even look at the edit notes

        • 2012-07-01 18348, 2012

      • pankkake
        did I say I'm pissed?

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      • reosarevok
        I think you did

        • 2012-07-01 18327, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :p

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      • reosarevok
        But yeah, I voted on a few, checking the ones which looked dubious (except one I missed and you found)

        • 2012-07-01 18326, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Then was like "fuck it, this is endless" and went away

        • 2012-07-01 18343, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Apparently other people were like "fuck it, this is endless" and voted yes on all...

        • 2012-07-01 18359, 2012

      • pankkake
        many are easily votes yes, I just wish they left the tricky ones

        • 2012-07-01 18348, 2012

      • pankkake
        yesterday there was only ~500 edits with 2 yes votes so I was more or less able to check

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      • hawke_
        People really shouldn't do that

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      • hawke_
        if they say "fuck it, this is endless" they should abstain

        • 2012-07-01 18340, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yeah

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      • hawke_
        but gotta get those voting numbers up 'cos we have stats for that!

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      • reosarevok
        That sounds obvious to me

        • 2012-07-01 18355, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But...

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      • reosarevok
        One specific autoeditor that I won't name voted 21k times in one day, excluding abstains

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      • reosarevok
        It's IMPOSSIBLE to do that and still check stuff

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      • pankkake
        well it is possible if you only vote on easy edits / have specific searches

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      • reosarevok
        No. It's not.

        • 2012-07-01 18355, 2012

      • reosarevok
        3k? 4k? yeah

        • 2012-07-01 18304, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But 20k+ in 24h?

        • 2012-07-01 18305, 2012

      • pankkake
        yeah, I don't really realize :p

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      • reosarevok
        I mean, you vote lots

        • 2012-07-01 18322, 2012

      • reosarevok
        And still, I think your top has been around 5k

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      • reosarevok
        In a day

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      • pankkake
        and right now I do it all day :/