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jesus2099
hi Freso. Ah ok, you meant I add two releases from DiscID then merge them. Because of technical constraints, yes indeed, that’s what I do. :)
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10:33 AM
Freso
jesus2099: No, that's not at all what I was talking about.
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10:33 AM
jesus2099
argh, then what, Freso ? :D
2013-02-01 03224, 2013
10:35 AM
Freso
jesus2099: Read the log leading up to the message where I mentioned you. It's in the ~2-3 messages leading up to it.
2013-02-01 03252, 2013
10:35 AM
jesus2099
I did before first asking… I didn’t understand, really.
2013-02-01 03208, 2013
10:36 AM
jesus2099
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10:36 AM
jesus2099
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10:36 AM
jesus2099
(yes indeed, it has connexion with INLINE STUFF of course, wrong link paste grrr)
2013-02-01 03227, 2013
10:38 AM
Freso
2013-02-01 03208, 2013
10:39 AM
jesus2099
« [peoepl should] stop asking questions and then leaving before I can answer » ha ha ha
2013-02-01 03215, 2013
10:39 AM
jesus2099
but
2013-02-01 03237, 2013
10:39 AM
jesus2099 says « people stop being logged in but not there » in IRC, it’s worse :)
2013-02-01 03211, 2013
10:40 AM
jesus2099
anyway I always get read the answers to my questions and thank afterwards
2013-02-01 03237, 2013
10:45 AM
jesus2099
do we really have to create TWO tickets in JIRA for on RFC ?
2013-02-01 03246, 2013
10:45 AM
jesus2099
a STYLE ticket and an MBS ticket ?
2013-02-01 03201, 2013
10:46 AM
jesus2099
couldn’t we just transform the STYLE ticket into MBS after votes ?
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10:53 AM
thomasvs
question - how do people expect a cd ripper to handle ripping multiple singles with the same name ?
2013-02-01 03226, 2013
10:53 AM
thomasvs
(imagine musicbrainz doesn't know much about the difference except that there are multiple releases in that release group with the same name)
2013-02-01 03217, 2013
10:54 AM
Leftmost
I generally rename between rips.
2013-02-01 03226, 2013
10:54 AM
Leftmost
Or do you mean tracklist?
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10:54 AM
Leftmost
Err, I asked that poorly.
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10:54 AM
Leftmost
Do you mean how to select which release is the correct one?
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10:56 AM
thomasvs
no, that part's fine
2013-02-01 03200, 2013
10:57 AM
thomasvs
I mean naming the output directory
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10:57 AM
thomasvs
right now, morituri assumes it should overwrite or continue the rip
2013-02-01 03224, 2013
10:57 AM
thomasvs
I'm adding smth to detect that it's about to overwrite a successful rip of another version
2013-02-01 03235, 2013
10:57 AM
thomasvs
so I want to come up with a new name somehow for the second release
2013-02-01 03203, 2013
10:58 AM
Leftmost
You could just do the general (1) sort of thing.
2013-02-01 03213, 2013
10:58 AM
Leftmost
Unless there's a disambig comment.
2013-02-01 03229, 2013
10:58 AM
thomasvs
hm, yeah
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10:58 AM
thomasvs
is for example 'green' a valid disambiguation comment ?
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10:58 AM
thomasvs
to indicate that this is commonly known as the green single ?
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10:59 AM
reosarevok
yep
2013-02-01 03235, 2013
10:59 AM
thomasvs
ok, I guess that could work
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10:59 AM
thomasvs
and the common case of two editions of singles sold separately but meant to be collected together ?
2013-02-01 03201, 2013
11:00 AM
thomasvs
are we supposed to treat that as a two disc single release ?
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11:00 AM
Leftmost
I would usually put something a bit clearer if I could (see Weezer), but yeah.
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11:00 AM
Leftmost
thomasvs, multiple releases, I think.
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11:00 AM
reosarevok
You mean the silly UK thing with CD 1 and CD 2?
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11:00 AM
Leftmost
Do you mean the UK CD 1/UK CD 2?
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11:00 AM
reosarevok
Multiple releases, yep
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11:00 AM
Leftmost fights reosarevok.
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11:00 AM
thomasvs
oh, really, separate ? even if they made a jewelcase that contains CD1 and you're supposed to add CD2 to that after buying it ?
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11:01 AM
thomasvs
ok
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11:01 AM
Leftmost
Yeah.
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11:01 AM
thomasvs
so in the UK case, do you actually put disc 1 and disc 2 in the title ? or in the disambiguation ?
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11:01 AM
Leftmost
Disambig, unless the cover specifies.
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11:02 AM
thomasvs
cover specifies? you mean, if the cover says, part 2 of a two cd set, you put it in the title?
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11:02 AM
Leftmost
If the cover says something like "Milk (CD 1)" or the like, though it usually would just say "Milk".
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11:02 AM
Leftmost
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11:02 AM
thomasvs
ok, so basically, disambiguation is for anything you can't tell from the title but you can tell from the rest of the disc
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11:03 AM
Leftmost
The two UK releases are a CD 1 and CD 2.
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11:03 AM
Leftmost
I should probably add disambig.
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11:03 AM
Leftmost
Right.
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11:04 AM
thomasvs
yeah, and the first one says 'medium' not CD
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11:04 AM
thomasvs
wow, joe strummer co-wrote stupid girl? I had no idea
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11:04 AM
reosarevok
thomasvs: well, mostly for something you can't tell from the standard data we have
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11:04 AM
thomasvs
ok, thanks for the explanation, let's see what I can do with that this weekend
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11:04 AM
Leftmost
Well, the first is the German release. Someone just left out some info.
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11:04 AM
thomasvs
pretty sure I already do disambiguation, to get past the Weezer case. But I also want to handle this when it's missing that field.
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11:05 AM
reosarevok
I mean, at a release group level, it's generally just "not the same name"
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11:05 AM
reosarevok
At a release level, since barcodes and such already help, it's much less common
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11:05 AM
Leftmost
Probably just a generic (1) or something.
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11:06 AM
thomasvs
yeah, works for me. Plus morituri almost has a retag/rename option, so people can fix disambiguation then trigger rename
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11:07 AM
Leftmost
I still have yet to try morituri, though I'm interested in the project.
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11:08 AM
thomasvs
it rips cds, makes you dinner, and does the dishes afterwards.
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11:08 AM
thomasvs
you should try it
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11:09 AM
reosarevok
huh, I don't use CDs but if it still makes me dinner maybe I should :p
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11:10 AM
Leftmost
Will it make dinner for two, or just for one?
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11:10 AM
thomasvs
depends on the quality of the cd you're ripping
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11:10 AM
Leftmost
I have excellent taste.
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11:11 AM
thomasvs
then two it is
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11:13 AM
thomasvs
hm, using track count may make sense too if there's no disambiguation. or mbid.
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11:13 AM
nikki puts CD 1 and CD 2 in the disambiguation comment for uk singles
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11:14 AM
nikki
some people want to copy the wording used on the cover, but I want to be able to detect particular types of disambiguation comments :/
2013-02-01 03237, 2013
11:19 AM
reosarevok
"Legend of the Knightwasher – which is, in fact, about a washing machine who’s also a medieval knight" go go go crazy games
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11:21 AM
Freso
reosarevok: Sounds like a point'n'click adventure! :D
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11:25 AM
reosarevok
It looks like a diablo-ish arpg
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11:25 AM
reosarevok
But, you know, with dishwashers
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11:25 AM
Freso
Aw.
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11:26 AM
jesus2099
thomasvs: include the catalogue number and/or barcode at the end of your folder name, for instance
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11:29 AM
Freso
There can be multiple cat. no.'s and both cat. no. and barcode can be the same between releases.
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11:34 AM
reosarevok
hey, now he quit *after* you replied! :p
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11:34 AM
reosarevok
(technically at least :p)
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11:34 AM
Freso
:p
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jesus2099
Freso: I use foobar for my (temp.) reips, it concatenate all catnos, and they are different for different releases, hopefully :)
2013-02-01 03239, 2013
11:43 AM
jesus2099
hey Freso maybe you might know that : I’ve noticed I don’t receive emails any more when someone says somethingin a JIRA that I voted or commented in…
2013-02-01 03255, 2013
11:43 AM
jesus2099
I have to vote+WATCH now, right ?
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11:44 AM
reosarevok
jesus2099: I think you always had to...
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11:44 AM
jesus2099
but do I have to also watch my own JIRA ?
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11:44 AM
Freso
jesus2099: Voting has never triggered sending e-mails.
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11:44 AM
Freso
jesus2099: Depends on your own settings, I think.
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11:44 AM
Freso
jesus2099: I just subscribe to -bugs, so I don't really watch my own ticket flow. :p
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11:44 AM
Freso
*watch just my own
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11:44 AM
jesus2099
where are the settings ?
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11:44 AM
Freso shrugs
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11:45 AM
jesus2099
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11:45 AM
Freso
Look around.
2013-02-01 03215, 2013
11:45 AM
jesus2099
I know I know but the settings of JIRA are so few…
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11:45 AM
jesus2099
As I thought there is near nothing in there
2013-02-01 03249, 2013
11:45 AM
jesus2099
The only setting is « Email me when I make changes » but this is not what I’m talking abouts
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11:46 AM
jesus2099
Freso: how do you watch your own for instacne ?
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11:46 AM
jesus2099
you mean you have to click WATCH each time afterxards you create your ticket ?
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11:47 AM
nikki
you should get emails for things you reported
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11:47 AM
jesus2099
ah,; great
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11:47 AM
jesus2099
:)
2013-02-01 03217, 2013
11:47 AM
jesus2099
ouf
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11:47 AM
nikki
there doesn't seem to be a way to add voters to the list of people who are sent emails, it's just the reporter, the assignee and all watchers
2013-02-01 03201, 2013
11:48 AM
jesus2099
ok nikki, I just needed to know how it worked, thanks for this :)
2013-02-01 03217, 2013
11:48 AM
jesus2099
btw the WATCH button on own ticket shouldn’t be there, then
2013-02-01 03231, 2013
11:48 AM
jesus2099
just like the VOTE button is disabled
2013-02-01 03202, 2013
11:49 AM
jesus2099
Voting: You cannot vote or change your vote on resolved issues. BUT Watching: You are not watching this issue. Watch it to be notified of changes
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11:49 AM
nikki
that's different. the configuration stuff is configurable, so it's possible to have emails sent to watchers which aren't sent to the reporter (why? who knows)
2013-02-01 03208, 2013
11:50 AM
jesus2099
so the WATCH button and explanation on own tickets’s sidebar is not consistent with our configuration, it’s LYING. :)
2013-02-01 03210, 2013
11:50 AM
nikki
but since we have reporter and watchers for all notifications, you *can* if you want, but you don't need to
2013-02-01 03245, 2013
11:50 AM
jesus2099
it says « [I] won’t be notified » ☜ LIE LIE LIE
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11:50 AM
Freso
jesus2099 | Freso: how do you watch your own for instacne ?
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11:50 AM
nikki
it's entirely possible it's been altered in a newer version of jira. it's not like we're using a recent version :P
2013-02-01 03205, 2013
11:51 AM
Freso
I follow yjr musicbrainz-bugs mailing list.
2013-02-01 03207, 2013
11:51 AM
Freso
*the
2013-02-01 03238, 2013
11:51 AM
jesus2099
another mailing list again ? /(°o° )/
2013-02-01 03246, 2013
11:51 AM
Freso
It's an old mailing list.
2013-02-01 03257, 2013
11:51 AM
Freso
(As can be seen by it being -bugs and not, say, -tickets.)
2013-02-01 03217, 2013
11:52 AM
Freso
I wouldn't be surprised if there's an RSS feed as well.
