#musicbrainz

jacobbrett, I'm not sure, I suppose I'm thinking of the physical event of a song being recorded rather than "distinct audio"

johtso: if you are editing belafonte i recommend: http://www.akh.se/harbel/index.htm

oh man, this Senora lady is causing a lot of trouble, huh?

drsaunde, ah nice!

johtso: If you mean trying to work out whether two MB Recordings are the same real recording, Acoustid fingerprints might help a bit.

has recording dates and personnel for all of his original rec.

it's just a bit frustrating that the usual concept of a recording doesn't map to a musicbrainz recording

johtso: Yeah, that's something being discussed and will probably change in the near future.

johtso: there are many people that believe it should (me included)

johtso: can't you relate them to their proper work more easily?

and Work is more general than a recording, so

um

stuff

MutantPlatypus, what do you mean? relating all the individual recordings to the work

wait, bye-bye, train of thought

*?

:)

even if there a small variations between the recordings, they would be recordings of the same Work

are you talking about *merging* recordings?

oh, and by relating, i mean:

Work-to-Recording relationship A work can be associated with one or more recordings. This provides the indirect association between a work and its performance and production artists.

from doc/Work

i'm trying to find the link to the description of that particular Relationship

this one! a performance relationship

MutantPlatypus, right, I was talking about merging recordings, so that you can look at a list of recordings of a specific song performed by an artist, and see that they recorded the song x times, rather than having a huge list of the same song on various compilations

and adding work relationships to so many duplicate recordings individually would be quite a pain..

oh, ok. well then I have nothing to add to that discussion :)

i figured you would associate them with the Works first to make the merging easier to decide later

johtso: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/119544

oh nice, with that script johtso wouldn't even need the help I offered :)

johtso: http://musicbrainz.org/work/8c537d3d-a2d9-3141-... is this really wroted by Harry Belafonte?

reosarevok, there's a user script for everything! :D

I wish :)

johtso: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jump_in_the_Line and http://www.akh.se/lyrics/jump_in_the_line.htm says Words and Music by : Stephen Somvel

jozo, edit note just says "liner"

jozo, I'll update it, http://www.discogs.com/release/1979990 has the same writer credit

Can someone approve this edit? I need to re-use the track list for the CD release: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/21279525

johtso: liner notes are likely http://musicbrainz.org/release/90f456b0-e78f-45... release

johtso: http://www.allmusic.com/album/the-life-and-time... - allmusic says also Composed by: Harry Belafonte --- I bet that those liner notes are wrong

jozo, aha, that would make sense

MutantPlatypus: approved

btw if the liner notes are wrong then you should add an annotation

ty

it's a shame the user script doesn't work on the search page where you also get a release column

does the French case guesser work?

ew, it removes accented characters. so no. but what about for case checking?

I have no idea what the French guess case does

johtso: did you mean to have Lord Kitchener's Work inspire two separate Works by (Joseph Spence and Lord Invader)? I meant to ask if you were sure that, since Lord Invader has a recording that predates Joseph Spence by a deade.

MutantPlatypus, wasn't sure which work to relate joseph spence's, the original seemed like a good option

is there a recording of Spence's available on the web?

MutantPlatypus, if you have spotify http://open.spotify.com/track/1bGyiHoEpSqI4fmX7...

you can also listen to it here http://www.folkways.si.edu/TrackDetails.aspx?it...

well, a snippet

yeah, from those snippets I'd say you made the right choice :P

how do I see the list of acoustid submitters by fingerprints submitted?

I swear I saw a page like that before..

jozo, collection highlighter chrome bug was due to a recent MBS change that added <BDI> tags all over the <A> everywhere and that made the display buggy in crohme :/ I fixed it (but do not really like to have to add funny stuff work arounds) ;)

Jozo: for funkey disco however, I think CAA must have been down or something when you tried it maybe...

bleh, http://musicbrainz.org/release/b3cde546-40d0-42... is a dupe of my http://musicbrainz.org/release/fdd5b671-e5c7-40...

what is the right way to merge them, considering they have slightly different tracklists? (he hasn't removed the bogus beatport (original mix) crap)

Titles don't matter

So just merge

If you merge into the one with the right titles, it will just keep those

Also, it's "feat." not "Feat." :)

yeah I usually guess case

and that gets Feat. -> feat.

anyone know if its possible to capture Amazon's cover art that's provided by the zoom view? It seems to be available in a high resolution that I can't get at

derwin: when you remove "(original mix)", do you add it as a disambig comment? Not required, but at least some editors prefer doing it that way.

(iirc)

CallerNo6: I would if it weren't beatport just adding "(Original Mix)" on everything

if it said (Original Mix) on a CD, I'd actually just leave it probably.

oh, gotcha

derwin: last.fm/audioscrobbler used to point users to mb when their site was down (which happened quite often too), they were the source of a lot of editors back then

nikki: I see

influx = sustained

also, cd stubs don't need people to sign up, so presumably people would have signed up in order to add a cd before

how do I make the open in tagger button show on the website

open a page from picard using the lookup in browser button

(then refresh whichever page you want the button to appear on)

it's also possible to drag and drop the urls into picard, that works really well for some people

got it, thanks

what does it mean when picard says stream info block not found

Mornin', Freso.

...

It's a snowstorm out there.

Y u be snowing spring?! Stahp!

how do i configure picard for fingerprinting?

because i added the key, the binary and selected acoustid, but i i right click on a wav file, it asks to select a folder

Ben\Sput, I'm having a problem with the scanner locking and not responding to kill signals. Ctrl+C, kill -9, kill -11. Nothin'.

[08:41] FresoY u be snowing spring?! Stahp!

THIS

it's like mars turned into april or something

I've been trying to add http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BK3LPFU/ to MB and constantly failing, due to the 302 (!) tracks in this album.

I keep getting 502 Bad Gateway.

So I've saved the track list at http://pastebin.com/Cm9MDtX3 for someone else to try if they want.

have you looked up the artists on the tracklist tab?

Paste that into the track parser with "Track names start with a number" and "Detect track durations" selected.

nikki: Is that directed to me, or to someone who was talking before I entered the channel?

you

I'm entering them all with Handel as the artist, as per what appears to be the new style for classical music.

Then I'll go through later on and apply appropriate performer credits for the artists credited by Amazon.

The pastebin is simply the result of my taking Amazon's credits, *deleting* the artist credits and formatting it properly for MB, then saving the result. That's what I would be creating the MB entry from if I could get the server to accept it, but given the 302 tracks, no dice on the server end.

So in the track parser, I leave "Parse track artists" unchecked.

I asked about this a few days ago and hawke_1 suggested creating multiple release entries with maybe 100 tracks each, then combining them later. Problem is, I could make a multiple-CD entry that way, but not a single-CD entry. (For "CD" substitute "digital album" in this case, of course.)

jeeez is this taking forever

I'm beginning to suspect that the MB code is configured to reject entries with more than N entries in the track list, where N is some arbitrary number like 200 or 250 (or maybe 256), because those are "obviously" someone trying to DOS the MB servers. Problem is, in this case there's a genuine need to create a 302-track release entry, and that code is rejecting it for the wrong reason.

it's not

Any MB coders on right now who could confirm that?