#musicbrainz

the reason I have so many tabs open is that I browse in a breadth-first search kind of way

(if you know what that is)

separate processes are little bit better in win8, but since chrome can’t even do the simplest things like opening a file, it is quite terrible for everyday use imo

btw KRSCuan I hope you mean one order of magnitude up in number of tabs, not amount of memory used :P

so if you go back to one of those tabs, it has to reload the page

My main problem is that you don't really have page titles visible anywhere, and bookmarks begin to disappear with 25 to 30 tabs open.

if you have firefox using only 170 MB of RAM I want to know your secret haha

why do bookmarks begin to disappear...?

Double that number and the tab bar can't even show you all the tabs, or at least provide some way to scroll.

ah

yeah that's why I need the tree style tab layout extension :)

it puts a big sidebar on the left side of the browser showing a tree of your tabs

tree in the sense that when you open a link on a page in a new tab, the new tab becomes a child of the current tab in the tree

firefox on my phone is only using 102MB atm :)

KRSCuan: here's a video showing what it looks like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9dUfyoHz3E

... I also have only 2 tabs open on it.

very handy, I can't live without this extension :)

I don't have horizontal space to waste for something like tree tabs.

I have too much horizontal space

ever since 16:9 became popular my screen is way too wide

I need to have two windows side-by-side on a monitor.

I don't use web browsers maximized

I need to fill space with sidebars in most of my applications :)

... I don't maximize anything, really. I have a window manager that lets me have multiple windows on the screen, you see ;)

I usually keep my browser maximized at least, even if I have to sometimes keep two other windows side-by-side

on windows I just maximize everything because doing anything else is too painful

on linux I use xmonad which is a nice tiling window manager :)

1120 pixels wide, with a 800 pixel window beside it.

Usually the file manager.

IRC, mail client and instant messager on the secondary display.

oh man, I haven't used instant messenger in so long

seems everyone I used to talk to on instant messenger has either moved in one direction (IRC) or the other (facebook)

my instant messenger client connects to facebook :/

and irc.

so I talk to everyone on instant messenger ;)

lol I see

I always found the IRC support in general purpose IM programs to be severely lacking

and of course facebook breaks compatibility with things all the time (or at least they used to when I tried using pidgin to connect to it)

it's not a super-great irc client, no. but it's servicable for general chatting.

facebook implements an xmpp api for clients now

so in the end I just have an IRC client and then I use facebook in the browser

oh that's good at least

lol do you know the chinese facebook clone "renren"?

nothing other than the name

well a few years ago it used to be called "xiaonei", and back then they of course had something like facebook chat

and it was XMPP back then (when facebook's was not)

but

I don't mean they provided an XMPP API

I mean it was literally XMPP, implemented in javascript on the page

and extremely slow

huh.

furthermore, all stuff normally done by AJAX was routed through this XMPP connection

haha

doesn't skype have giant NSA backdoors :P

not any more than any other chat protocol without end to end encryption

well unlike many other chat protocols without end to end encryption, there is verified logging of your conversations on a central server since you can download backlog (afaik, I don't use skype myself)

(notably, in most settings when doing single-user voice/video calls, skype actually runs in a peer-to-peer mode without a recording backdoor)

er, talking about the text chat in skype

the backlog feature is quite useful for me, but yeah :)

google talk also has similar backlog (it actually stores backlog in the gmail email store...)

there was talk when microsoft bought skype that they were compromising that peer-to-peer mode by adding some sort of central "super-peers" controlled by microsoft, or something

sure, nobody expects google talk to be private haha

skype always had super-peers for relay when two people behind nat call eachother.

previously those were just random peers in the network that were elevated to that status, if I understand correctly

yeah, true.

but I dunno if running random nodes as superpeers vs. going through microsoft-controlled nodes would be better ;)

MS IM clients have always been bloated, look at MS Comic Chat :P

it's unclear what's going to happen with the xmpp gateway as they're doing this migrate to skype thing.

I had never heard of ms comic chat before :P

ms comic chat is pretty fun lol

it looks like anyone who has migrated to the skype client no longer shows up in my msn messenger buddy list as online :/

but i stopped using ms im when they released live messenger 9.0 or something… used digsby for a while, but now pretty much nobody I know uses messenger anymore, so… :P

and since I basically only log into sky from linux and my phone, my skype and msn accounts aren't merged.

skype on linux is awesome. No ads, simple and clean user interface :)

also, no animated emoticons.

I have almost nobody in skype, so I don’t really use that either :P

grr… http://beta.musicbrainz.org/recording/994b153c-...

2 different sets of artists on there plus one more listed on one of the releases in old-CSG style

2 piano soloists on a serenade for strings?

what if Sholz has a time machine too? Don't let him get one step ahead of you.

It obviously didn’t work, because I’m still aware of his annoying bullshit

aha. Maybe he can't kill you because he's your grandson.

ohai #musicbrainz, would you do me the favor of voting on the fix edits on https://musicbrainz.org/release/bc65e123-297b-4... ?

11xCD opera compilations with one different soloist per track take a fucking long time to enter :(

:p

can we get rid of the autoeditor system already? :-p

well, to be precise, I did *vote* on them :)

nah, need NES before we can get rid of the autoeditor system :)

True

CallerNo6: people have killed their grandsons plenty of times, even without time machines...

oh, I misread

flamingspinach: yes, so hawke_ may have the advantage in this battle

kepstin-work: how will NES help us get rid of autoeditors?

and what exactly do you mean by "get rid of"?

will everyone be an autoeditor because rollbacks will be easier?

Everyone *could* be, at most

at the moment I don't think there are any plans to change that

We'll see if and when NES is close to finished

in NES, the idea is that all edits could be made visible immediately, so there is no need for a specific class of user to make things show up immediately

on the other hand, it might make sense then to have an auto-un-editor who could reject things that are obviously wrong immediately; depends how it goes ;)

why are the weird things always happening to me? :/

Why is it that the recordings tab is paginated, but the relationships tab is not?

good question.

for recording/release links anyways

because nobody ever did http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-1178

apparently we're supposed to fix that 6 months ago.

strange, some of my area autoedits are delayed and not showing immediately, http://musicbrainz.org/edit/22800070 is not showing on artist's page

culinko: strange, could be a caching issue on the server side :/

damn, the link has already updated

yea, i smell some server related problems

in some cases it took 10 min to appear there

so it's probably some missing cache invalidation code :(

hey there

yo

Any librarians here with any experience with INNOPAC Millennium?

(probably not but it never hurts to ask :) )