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      • JonnyJD_
        Am I the only user that doesn't want to use any type of keyring/wallet/whatever?
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      • JonnyJD_
        I use ssh keys, but only where I have means to change the key if I lose it somehow
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      • derwin
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      • derwin
        broken link on "link to.. ASIN"
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      • derwin
        when you click "more documentation"
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      • nikki
        already fixed in beta
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      • derwin
        man the big edit numbers
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      • derwin
        must be in ARs and stuff
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      • nikki
        hm?
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      • derwin
        I add so many releases and am not even to 3k
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      • nikki
        oh, you mean having a large number of edits
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      • derwin
        yeah
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      • nikki
        and yes
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      • derwin
        I mean, I'm a DBA, I understand that there are many more relationships between things than things.
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      • derwin
        but it's still sad :/
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      • nikki
        adding a release is a lot of work for relatively few edits, adding the same conductor and orchestra to every track of a classical release is a whole bunch of edits in a minute
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      • nikki
        (well, "lot of work" depends of course, with a decent importer you can fill out a lot of stuff, but it still can't match the numbers you get from adding relationships)
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      • nikki
        if we had something like http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-1412 it'd probably help, since then we could just count groups
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      • nikki
        (not that having nicer stats is a particularly good reason to implement that XD)
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      • xandora
        Got an album here that has 2 bonus tracks that are only on the CD if you bought it from Target. Should I label the tracks with (Target Exclusive)? Is there a common style guide for that?
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      • MissDee
        xandora: that's what I;d do
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      • MissDee
        erm, actually, a new release
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      • MissDee
        with a disambig comment
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      • MissDee
        is it will be a different tracklist and disc id
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      • xandora
        Yea, I created a new release, added the extra tracks and added the disambig.
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      • MissDee
        woo :)
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      • Draven__
        What's the best way to automatically update my musicbrainz-server files (not database, I have slave.sh running hourly) from git?
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      • Draven__
        I assume I should just make a cronjob to do a 'git pull' but I want to make sure I won't break anything
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      • xandora|mac
        Is there a way to preview what your edits would look like before you commit them?
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      • nikki
        other than in the release editor, no
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      • xandora|mac
        So for things like release group merges, you just have to either know how it's going to turn out or find out after it happens?
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      • nikki
        yes :(
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      • xandora|mac
        …exciting!
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      • nikki
        for merging we really need something which gives us more control over what happens, but there's also a zillion other things we need >_<
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      • xandora|mac
        https://musicbrainz.org/edit/24482859 - made this edit earlier, just trying to see how it was going to turn out.
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      • nikki
        you should get a release group with both releases in it credited to the artist with "as" lowercased (since it prefers the data on the target release group)
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      • xandora|mac
        Ahh, I didn't even see the 'As' or 'as'. No wonder they didn't end up in the same group. DERP.
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      • nikki
        they'll only end up in the same group if you actually tell it to use the same group
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      • xandora|mac
        Yea, I was wondering why it didn't tell me there was a duplicate release. Should've noticed something was up.
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      • Draven__
        What's the best way to automatically update my musicbrainz-server files (not database, I have slave.sh running hourly) from git? I assume I should just make a cronjob to do a 'git pull' but I want to make sure I won't break anything.
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      • daveh
        anything persistent won't change until you restart
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      • nikki
        making it automatically update is likely to break something at some point
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      • nikki
        what are you trying to achieve by updating the code automatically anyway?
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      • daveh
        nikki - like what?
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      • kepstin-laptop
        perl deps change and need reinstallation, the server needs restarting, dbdefs needs manual updating...
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      • daveh
        catalyst wil be fine, it's persistent. jsut restart at the end.
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      • nikki
        it always restarts when the files change for me, so I imagine the setup other people are using will do the same
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      • nikki
        (since I didn't go out of my way to make it do that)
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      • daveh
        oh, plackup -r
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      • daveh
        yeah
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      • daveh
        that's not really a production switch
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      • kepstin-laptop
        well, if you're autoupdating, it's obviously not a production setup ;)
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      • daveh
        good call :)
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      • bricas
        hey y'all. i
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      • bricas
        err
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      • bricas
        i'm fishing for votes for this simple country change: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/24474484 :)
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      • bricas
        CatCat: thanks!
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      • daveh
        bricas, what's the change, Cambodia to Canada?
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      • kepstin-laptop
        us canadians are always annoyed that just typing 'ca' doesn't select canada - but we've learned to live with it :)
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      • kepstin-laptop gets hit with 'ja' selecting 'jamaica' when he means 'japan', too.
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      • daveh
        is that because mbz isn't using the ISO codes?
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      • nikki
        we do have the iso codes
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      • drsaunde
        nikki: ready for another round of cities?
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      • nikki
        I'm kinda busy, but sure, you can give us the links :P
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      • drsaunde
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      • drsaunde
        thanks and obviously no rush on those, but the guidelines now say to bug a AreaEditor :-)
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      • nikki
        they do?
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      • nikki wasn't aware we had guidelines
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      • drsaunde
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      • nikki
        meh, all three are the same problem
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      • nikki ponders how she could fix it
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      • drsaunde
        most of the ones I have left are all probably the same problem
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      • nikki
        how many do you have left?
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      • drsaunde
        30-40
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      • nikki
        ah
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      • bricas
        daveh: yea. I noticed the original edit put it in wrong, so i wanted to correct it.
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      • drsaunde
        i promised reo no more than 3 at ones
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      • drsaunde
        *once
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      • Draven__
        What's the best way to update my musicbrainz-server files (not database, I have slave.sh on cron) from GitHub? Do I just make a cron to run 'git pull'?
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      • daveh
        you should have been here earlier today :)
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      • reosarevok
        Draven__: #musicbrainz-devel
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      • kepstin-laptop
        Draven__: the best way is to follow the blog, read the release notes for each new version, then manually check out the appropriate tag and follow any required upgrade instructions :)
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      • reosarevok
        Might be a better place
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      • Draven__
        I was. Got d/c'd.
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      • reosarevok
        Ok, I guess no need :)
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      • Draven__
        Alright. I do follow the blog, was hoping somebody knew an automated way. No problems. Thank you.
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      • Jozo
        http://pastebin.com/AHNmaNJP - What release countries we should use? (WordWide or should we list all countries?)
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      • reosarevok
        Heh
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      • reosarevok
        Technically, all countries. Although that looks terrible, so dunno. I'd just put one and say "fuck it" but if you feel like adding all of them that should be fine too I guess?
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      • Jozo
        I usually use just one or two... but many other uses 'WorldWide'
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      • derwin
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      • bricas
        if a live version of a track is listed under a different name because it has a different arrangement, the recording is still just a "live" version of the work?
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      • hawke_
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      • hawke_
        jesus2099: mb. inline stuff seems to have stopped working for me on beta
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      • daveh
        do people maintain amazon artist central links?
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      • nikki
        what's amazon artist central?
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      • daveh
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      • daveh
        artist-maintained collection
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      • nikki
        some people enter them, although not many. "maintain" would imply we actually check they haven't stopped working, which we generally don't
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      • daveh
        link checking is good hygeine :)
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      • nikki
        speaking of which, there's probably another mountain of wikipedia pages for me to remove by now
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      • daveh
        a link checker is 10 lines of perl
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      • daveh
        add a "broken" column to the table
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      • daveh
        and bob's your unclue
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      • nikki
        we'll look forward to your patch then
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      • reosarevok
        heh, wish it was that easy