Web based instant audio conference. I was very impressed with the quality (YMMV depending on hardware). http://voicechatapi.com/
2014-02-01 03232, 2014
navap
I wonder what it would be like to run a weekly dev chat via voice
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CatCat
[01:56] reosarevok On CD, I have no idea how to deal with it
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CatCat
just got an idea
2014-02-01 03241, 2014
CatCat
why not add a separate "medium" to the release with the video racks?
2014-02-01 03203, 2014
CatCat
tecnically it's in a differnt thing on the cd
2014-02-01 03209, 2014
CatCat
well i dunno. it's called
2014-02-01 03220, 2014
CatCat
[01:56] reosarevok Some people add a second "digital media" medium
2014-02-01 03224, 2014
CatCat
lol didn't read
2014-02-01 03233, 2014
CatCat
so yea. a second medium :D
2014-02-01 03237, 2014
CatCat isn't affected by no superb owl, fosd em on the other hand...
2014-02-01 03212, 2014
Freso
kloeri|fosdem: Yo!
2014-02-01 03238, 2014
Freso
kloeri|fosdem: Go find Rob and the other MB guys that are at FOSDEM and talk to them! :p
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CatCat
\o/
2014-02-01 03211, 2014
Freso
kloeri|fosdem: (And invite Rob to come speak at OpenSource Days... O;))
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CatCat
at first i read that as a sad ;O face and not a winking angle face
2014-02-01 03228, 2014
CatCat
as a reversed sad O; face
2014-02-01 03208, 2014
Freso
I always do smileys left-to-right. Except for D:... but it's hard to make a mirrored D to come after the colon.
2014-02-01 03235, 2014
kloeri|fosdem
Freso: any idea where to find them? :)
2014-02-01 03259, 2014
kloeri|fosdem
Freso: I don't have anything to do with OSD anymore unfortunately
2014-02-01 03213, 2014
CatCat
Freso: yea, like most people, I, unlike most people am weird, i just recently realised I'd sorted my cd's right-to-left instead of the other way around
2014-02-01 03252, 2014
reosarevok
kloeri|fosdem: look for the big guy with the weird colourful hair
2014-02-01 03211, 2014
CatCat
XD
2014-02-01 03229, 2014
kloeri|fosdem
there's 5000+ people across a largish area - I'm sure a few people fit that description :)
2014-02-01 03242, 2014
CatCat
you haven't seen rob srsly
2014-02-01 03253, 2014
kloeri|fosdem
probably not
2014-02-01 03231, 2014
kloeri|fosdem
more seriously, is there any musicbrainz talks or anything at FOSDEM?
I am from India and as I saw there weren't many matches found on picard for hindi songs. So I wanted to fetch songs data from the sites from where I can download the songs and update the database.
2014-02-01 03225, 2014
TrigonaMinima
Fetching part is almost over.
2014-02-01 03232, 2014
simukis_
Ok, a question. Let's take this release http://musicbrainz.org/release/97a99ab0-816f-4d26…. On back cover `label #` is clearly written as `YSE 017` (just above the barcode). DiscoGS uses strange `YSE *-(D)CD`-like # for volumes I've seen util now, while yet elsewhere it is yet again different permutation of YSE, 017 and random letters. Would it be sensible to simply use (and change already entered releases) to use `YSE xxx` or `YSE-xx
2014-02-01 03233, 2014
reosarevok
TrigonaMinima: if you're going to add releases, I'd suggest not doing it fully automated. Either write an importer (you can seed the release editor, see http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Development/Release_Ed…) and make a last check by hand before entering, or at least add only a few dozen per day and review that they look good
2014-02-01 03254, 2014
reosarevok
Having more data is certainly good, mind, but we'd just love to ensure it looks fine :)
2014-02-01 03228, 2014
reosarevok
simukis_: that specific one at least seems to clearly be without -CD
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reosarevok
Maybe the medium has -CD written on it?
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reosarevok
If not, no idea where it came from
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simukis_
Both of mediums have.
2014-02-01 03244, 2014
simukis_
But then, again, it's the release label #, not medium.
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reosarevok
Well sure, but anywhere on the release that's still a catno
2014-02-01 03230, 2014
simukis_
s/mediums/media
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reosarevok
I don't really have a particularly useful opinion here - I'd be fine with standardising to only one of them, but no idea which one really
2014-02-01 03252, 2014
reosarevok
Someone who does edit this kind of music would be more helpful :)
2014-02-01 03231, 2014
TrigonaMinima
Is there any particular reason for not having an API ?
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reosarevok
For editing?
2014-02-01 03225, 2014
reosarevok
One is that someone would have to write it
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reosarevok
The other is that (at least until recently) the community didn't particularly trust mass-editing anyway
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reosarevok
I'm not sure whether that has changed
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reosarevok
But mostly, really, is that, that we're tiny and nobody has written it
2014-02-01 03239, 2014
reosarevok
(it's in the plans, eventually)
2014-02-01 03213, 2014
TrigonaMinima
Yes for editing. And if there's a doubt for correctness of the editings (for autoediting on a mass level) then it can always be limited to a few number.
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CatCat
\o/ for more non-western centric editors
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TrigonaMinima
Can this be done as a GSoC Project ? I mean is making an API big enough for a proj ?
2014-02-01 03208, 2014
reosarevok
I imagine it would be big enough, yes - I don't know if it would fit for this year because I don't remember what other changes we were supposed to make before it
2014-02-01 03219, 2014
reosarevok
But you can certainly suggest it
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TrigonaMinima
Is there any feature list or bug list ?
2014-02-01 03241, 2014
Freso
TrigonaMinima: For mass editing/data importing/digesting, the current goal is to use Geordi. I'm not sure if that's applicable for wherever you're importing your data from though.
2014-02-01 03218, 2014
Freso
TrigonaMinima: However, mass-adding of data is generally untrusted, since it has a bad history of adding... less than pristine data.
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Freso
You will usually need a set of human eyes on all added releases to ensure the style guidelines are being adhered to. ( https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Style )
2014-02-01 03236, 2014
Freso
E.g., capitalisation for titles in Latin script, formatting of titles, proper use of attributes, etc.
2014-02-01 03230, 2014
Freso
Thus, an importer, as reosarevok suggested, is far preferred, though a bot that adds a few releases that can then be looked over before making a new batch I guess could also work.
2014-02-01 03248, 2014
Freso
This is unlikely to change with an API, though an API would enable better/custom importers (e.g., instead of just feeding the release editor) as well as client-side editing, such as queing up edits while offline and then sending them off when reestablishing a connection.
2014-02-01 03215, 2014
Freso
But more or less blindly mass-adding data will probably never be favoured by the community.
2014-02-01 03245, 2014
TrigonaMinima
Yeah, I am asking for that. I mean instead of needing human hands to add more data, they can be used in checking them. And i think this will make it easier and quicker only (provided the API or bot adds a few releases only ).
2014-02-01 03223, 2014
TrigonaMinima
And having an API will bring more people in editing , I guess.
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simukis_
The same thing could be achieved by letting people simply provide an URI to other metadata website and MB pulling down + parsing all the data before editing process.
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reosarevok
Sadly no
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TrigonaMinima
I am sorry, but I am not following...
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simukis_
reosarevok: in what way iTunes are capable of enforcing their ToS in this aspect?
2014-02-01 03230, 2014
reosarevok
Well, they're certainly able to block us from their affiliate program
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reosarevok
They'll probably not go and sue us for it or anything (but if they did we'd have no money to fight back and would be forced to shut down, which means it probably won't happen anyway :p)
