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jesus2099
helklo there if anyone is interested in the logos that you find on releases that are called labels… i tried to edit a label to what it appears as on releases but have a no for the moment :
https://musicbrainz.org/edit/28303280 by the now famous DO NOT USE THIS LABEL editor ;)
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Schisma______
hi
2014-07-01 18254, 2014
7:03 AM
Schisma______
does anyone know a good example for a series?
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Schisma______
found a good example on the wiki-page
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Schisma______
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Schisma______
in case you are into wikidata
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zag2
Any idea why there are suddenly duped "S Club 7" artist?
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zag2
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8:38 AM
Cuan
Look in the history to get an idea.
2014-07-01 18210, 2014
8:40 AM
zag2
both histories look identical to me
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8:41 AM
zag2
oh i see it redirects to the new MBID when clicking history
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8:41 AM
Cuan
2014-07-01 18258, 2014
8:41 AM
Cuan
Not really that sudden that they were merged.
2014-07-01 18212, 2014
8:42 AM
Cuan
But the old MBID still points to the merged entry.
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zag2
Cool thanks
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jesus2099
callerno6, the youtube says the video is unavailable
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8:45 AM
jesus2099
is there a way to remove milissa’s spam from MB chatlogs ?
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8:45 AM
jesus2099
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8:46 AM
zag2
just for info that one merged artist breaks like 100,000 xbmc scrapes looking at the logs :)
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8:46 AM
zag2
So I will update with the new MBID to fix it
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8:47 AM
zag2
never knew so many people listened to S club 7 lol
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8:47 AM
Cuan
Well, that's probably XMBCs fault if it doesn't handle this correctly.
2014-07-01 18259, 2014
8:47 AM
Cuan
Or whoever wrote the scraper
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8:48 AM
zag2
indeed (looks at himself)
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8:48 AM
zag2
our metadata sites also rely on static MBID's though
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8:48 AM
zag2
its quite a task if they change on our whole ecosystem
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8:49 AM
zag2
but as you say, can be fixed with some code changes
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8:49 AM
Cuan
Well, the old ones still work. So it's not a problem when you look things up.
2014-07-01 18252, 2014
8:49 AM
Cuan
But if you try to use them as a static identifier, yeah.
2014-07-01 18202, 2014
8:51 AM
Cuan
After an artist/release/etc. merge, it becomes a many-to-one thing.
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zag2
yeh we use it as unique at some points
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zag2
I'll suggest some changes to that
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Schisma______
on audio tapes can I mark somehow which track is on which side?
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10:00 AM
Cuan
A1, A2, A3, B1 etc.
2014-07-01 18222, 2014
10:01 AM
Schisma______
as "disc title"?
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10:01 AM
Cuan
Nah, as track numbers.
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10:02 AM
Cuan
Different sides of a cassette, vinyl record etc. are still the same medium.
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Schisma______
ic
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Schisma______
odd
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10:04 AM
Cuan
Not really.
2014-07-01 18259, 2014
10:04 AM
Schisma______
ah, track numbers
2014-07-01 18202, 2014
10:05 AM
Schisma______
i thought track names
2014-07-01 18208, 2014
10:05 AM
Schisma______
makes sense
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10:05 AM
Cuan
That kind of numbering scheme is especially common for vinyl.
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10:05 AM
Cuan
Yeah.
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mb-chat-logger
New post: blog: New autumn schema change date: 17 November, 2014 <http://blog.musicbrainz.org/2014/07/01/new-autumn-schema-change-date-17-november-2014/>
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xram
is there a keyboard shortcut for the next song in the artist credit box ?
2014-07-01 18212, 2014
14:43 PM
hawke
Nope.
2014-07-01 18216, 2014
14:43 PM
hawke
I wish there were.
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hawke
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hawke
hey jesus2099, do you still have "MB. auto-focus + keyboard-select ver.2013.0617.2320."?
2014-07-01 18201, 2014
14:45 PM
hawke
(Or whatever the current version is?)
2014-07-01 18254, 2014
14:52 PM
Cuan
xram: Pressing Enter usually works for me.
2014-07-01 18215, 2014
14:53 PM
Cuan
Unless I deleted an artist credit before, then the delete button has focus.
2014-07-01 18233, 2014
14:53 PM
Cuan
So there's no consistent keyboard shortcut to speak of.
2014-07-01 18258, 2014
14:53 PM
Cuan
Just what your browser does.
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14:59 PM
CallerNo6
Why wouldn't you just tab between fields. Tabbing four times seems faster than reaching for some goofy arrow key :-)
2014-07-01 18202, 2014
15:00 PM
CallerNo6 should try to put question marks at the end of his questions, just to see how it goes.
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15:00 PM
hawke
CallerNo6: because it’s five tabs to move down one field.
2014-07-01 18253, 2014
15:00 PM
hawke
Wait
2014-07-01 18255, 2014
15:00 PM
hawke
make that 9 tabs
2014-07-01 18204, 2014
15:01 PM
CallerNo6
?
2014-07-01 18241, 2014
15:01 PM
hawke
artist credit, edit button, duration, guess case, delete track, move track up, move track down, track duration, track title
2014-07-01 18258, 2014
15:01 PM
hawke
er — second 'duration' should be 'number'
2014-07-01 18216, 2014
15:02 PM
CallerNo6
huh. my browser skips some of those
2014-07-01 18208, 2014
15:03 PM
hawke
<rant>but OMG people on mac don’t know how to use home/end so we’ll make up/down move left/right instead!</rant>
2014-07-01 18211, 2014
15:03 PM
CallerNo6
I get five. Faster (for me) than reaching away from the "home position" or whatever typists call it.
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CallerNo6
mac users get what they deserve :-P
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xram
ah yes enter key is not perfect
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15:04 PM
xram
I thought it was the shortcut I was looking for
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15:04 PM
CallerNo6
(although I gotta say, the new mac pro is pretty cool looking)
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15:06 PM
hawke
Enter key would probably be a good choice, since it at least is designed as a newline
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15:07 PM
hawke
designed→expected
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15:07 PM
CallerNo6
don't spreadsheets and tabular things generally use up/down arrow?
2014-07-01 18248, 2014
15:07 PM
Cuan
Spreadsheets always do the thing you don't want.
2014-07-01 18256, 2014
15:07 PM
CallerNo6
haha, true
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15:08 PM
Cuan
Autocomplete/-format when you don't want it.
2014-07-01 18234, 2014
15:08 PM
Cuan
etc.
2014-07-01 18225, 2014
15:09 PM
CallerNo6
I always thought that spreadsheet editing was logical, and it was my fault for not being able to do it efficiently.
2014-07-01 18234, 2014
15:10 PM
CallerNo6
Maybe someday I'll understand.
2014-07-01 18221, 2014
15:11 PM
Cuan
Users aren't logical.
2014-07-01 18255, 2014
15:11 PM
CallerNo6
(oh, it's five "tabs" for me because the release I was editing had ghosted track times. So six tabs. Maybe that's a bit much.)
2014-07-01 18213, 2014
15:12 PM
Cuan
And then there's differences between different office suites, or just the personal customizations.
2014-07-01 18233, 2014
15:12 PM
Cuan
Having to work with someone else's configuration can be a horror sometimes.
2014-07-01 18244, 2014
15:13 PM
CallerNo6
The solution is obvious. vi-mode for all the things!
2014-07-01 18245, 2014
15:14 PM
CallerNo6
huh. actually, I should try vimperator with the release editor.
2014-07-01 18223, 2014
15:15 PM
hawke
To me the solution is obvious: ignore the Mac insanity and do the obviously-correct thing. ;-)
2014-07-01 18200, 2014
15:16 PM
derwin
there's a related thing I hate
2014-07-01 18214, 2014
15:16 PM
derwin
where chrome on mac scrolls a web page once you get to the top of a text box
2014-07-01 18226, 2014
15:16 PM
derwin
15 years of using web browsers and that never worked like that
2014-07-01 18249, 2014
15:16 PM
hawke
(oh, and one problem with 'enter' is that it only goes down, not up)
2014-07-01 18210, 2014
15:18 PM
derwin
oh, and don't get me started on soundcloud taking over "spacebar" to no longer mean "page down"
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15:18 PM
CallerNo6 remembers why he doesn't use vimperator
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15:22 PM
hawke
derwin: I like that. better than having to hope there’s somewhere you can tab to that lets you scroll
2014-07-01 18237, 2014
15:22 PM
derwin
hawke: what I end up doing is hitting "fn-down"
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15:22 PM
derwin
hawke: ... because my mac has no page down
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15:23 PM
hawke
(or being unable to tab if the textarea allows entry of tab chars)
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15:23 PM
antihero
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15:24 PM
hawke
antihero: very normal. Don’t worry though, if no one votes against it, it will be accepted.
2014-07-01 18228, 2014
15:25 PM
antihero
hawke: cool. Is there a way to get beets to use non-voted edits?
2014-07-01 18238, 2014
15:25 PM
hawke
antihero: Not that I know of.
2014-07-01 18218, 2014
15:26 PM
hawke
antihero: I don’t think there’s any way for beets to retrieve a 'future data' view, since even Musicbrainz can’t do that.
2014-07-01 18225, 2014
15:26 PM
antihero
hawke: makes sense
2014-07-01 18206, 2014
15:27 PM
antihero
ooh, TIL ncmpcpp has super simple mass editing
