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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        not getting too many trick-or-treaters...

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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXX73Wm3iac

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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        ...and fuck. Here come the 502s again.

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      • wardhan
        what is the best criteria or rules to merge identical recordings ? please see this link it has multiple recordings : https://musicbrainz.org/search?query=+Bolo+Bolo+K…

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      • hawke
        Well, a basic starter is that they should be the same length

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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        Be sure to check the AcoustIDs

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      • wardhan
        can somebody please confirm the release merge is good : https://musicbrainz.org/edit/29904436

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      • hawke
        wardhan: is that actually a 2-disc release?

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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        No, it isn't.

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      • wardhan
        hawke: no. when i selected merge it has shown error that artists are different.

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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        I highly doubt CDs were commercially available in 1982.

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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        (in India, at least)

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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        wardhan: The reason the track artists were different is because of https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Style/Specific_types…

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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        (which may need to be adjusted for Bollywood releases)

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      • wardhan
        HibiscusKazeneko: so should i cancel the edit ? and merge both recordings individually ?

        • 2014-11-01 30517, 2014

      • HibiscusKazeneko
        Yes. Please merge the recordings. The releases will have to say separate.

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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        (I suspect the version from 1982 is either an LP or cassette)

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      • wardhan
        HibiscusKazeneko: ok. i will right away merge the recodings one by one.

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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        Please post the edit links here when you do.

        • 2014-11-01 30539, 2014

      • wardhan
        HibiscusKazeneko: i did first try with "Merge mediums and recordings"but it has thrown up error both have different artists.

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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        Please, do not attempt to merge the releases. They appear too different to be the same.

        • 2014-11-01 30559, 2014

      • wardhan
        HibiscusKazeneko: https://musicbrainz.org/edit/29904588, https://musicbrainz.org/edit/29904587, https://musicbrainz.org/edit/29904582, https://musicbrainz.org/edit/29904578, https://musicbrainz.org/edit/29904576

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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        voted :)

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      • wardhan
        HibiscusKazeneko: thank you :)

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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        no prob

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      • wardhan
        same recording appears with slightly different name. one is short form & other long form appear on 2 different releases : https://musicbrainz.org/recording/19c1f84f-2752-4… & https://musicbrainz.org/recording/ed2ee579-34cd-4…

        • 2014-11-01 30537, 2014

      • wardhan
        should i merge them or create some sort of relationship ? please advice.

        • 2014-11-01 30535, 2014

      • wardhan
        or is it okay to use work from https://musicbrainz.org/recording/ed2ee579-34cd-4… & create relationship with release https://musicbrainz.org/release/83d6831c-a0f8-411…

        • 2014-11-01 30526, 2014

      • dns53
        they seem to be the same artist, same song, same time so go ahead and merge. just be a little careful if they are different ie a live performance vs studio recording etc

        • 2014-11-01 30502, 2014

      • wardhan
        dns53: just now seen ur message. merging right now.

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      • flamingspinach
        would anyone care to vote on this edit? http://musicbrainz.org/edit/29905312

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      • flamingspinach
        adding a bunch of release will be easier if I don't have to pre-edit the artist credits to match this edit on each release

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      • flamingspinach
        *releases

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      • xps2
        flamingspinach: I voted.

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      • flamingspinach
        thanks :)

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      • xps2
        FULLWITH TILDE is a de facto standard of Microsoft. I think that I should use WAVE DASH.

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      • MBChatLogger
        is logging

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      • hitchcock.freenode.net
        Users on #musicbrainz: Clint mr_maxis _5moufl ratsupremacy njh gibbon_ Vorpal derwin canidae Muz warp JonnyJD VxJasonxV ianweller blast_hardcheese frewsxcv_____ nioncode

        • 2014-11-01 30554, 2014

      • flamingspinach
        よかったね、生き甲斐を果たせて

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      • xps2
        In print, shaped so the same, does not matter either. However, I think that I should be standardized when I entered into the database.

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      • flamingspinach
        I agree :)

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      • flamingspinach
        xps2: ちなみに一応さっきは MBChatLogger に話しかけてたんだけど、勘違いされたかなｗ

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      • xps2
        flamingspinach: なるほど

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      • Freso
        Hm. The tilde looks better here than the dash, but that's probably a font issue.

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      • flamingspinach
        Freso: yeah, and the dash is more "correct" anyway https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilde#Unicode_and_S…

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      • xps2
        Freso: e.g. メイリオ(Meiryo) is same shape. http://i.imgur.com/aGe8P8Z.png

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      • _5moufl
        DO you guys know if murdos comes around sometimes?

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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox doesn't get it :/

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      • chirlu`
        Many people are highly allergic against nuts.

        • 2014-11-01 30550, 2014

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        uuhhh

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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        don't ask for candy from strangers if you're alergic to something that is usualy a contenceof candy?

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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        idk

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      • Freso
        xps2: https://imgur.com/vUjDdGj

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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        also even zooming in http://i.imgur.com/aGe8P8Z.png they look identical pixel for pixel

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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        Freso: those doesn't :D

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      • Freso
        Hence why I said "here" and "probably a font issue".

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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        also look identical here

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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        probably try downloading code 2000? or maybe that's the issue

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      • Freso
        ... I don't really care about it?

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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        well sorry for suggesting it then

        • 2014-11-01 30536, 2014

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        hrmph

        • 2014-11-01 30536, 2014

      • Freso
        They both are represented properly and I'm not going to be looking at too many wave dashes at any one point.

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      • chirlu` merges the duplicate Wikidata objects for peanut allergy.

        • 2014-11-01 30525, 2014

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        :)

        • 2014-11-01 30543, 2014

      • Freso
        ZaphodBeeblebrox: I just posted the image to show xps2 that just because the same symbol is used for both characters on his system, does not make it universally so. I also voted yes on the edit, so it's not like it was an objection to it either.

        • 2014-11-01 30539, 2014

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox never sugested either. but usually when there is a contingencie people want to fix it? idk, I was just trying to suggest some reason it might be different and (then how) to fix it

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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        I don't really care either.

        • 2014-11-01 30520, 2014

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox is more worried/irritated about having to go out in bleh weather to get milk and cheese

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      • Freso
        For being a wave, I actually like that symbol more than the other one.

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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        and that I cnt have a cheese sandwich or noodles with broccoli&cheese unless I do so

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      • Freso
        Waves are usually symbolised starting at the baseline, not at the top or the bottom of it.

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      • Freso
        *represented

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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        Freso: then you have to define which is "that one" ;)

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      • Freso
        The one on my system.

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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        but anyway. i ant eat chocolate unless i buy it

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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        cant even

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      • xps2
        Freso: I only gave the example which looked same. I know that an appearance depends on the environment. Not appearance but the meaning of WAVE DASH is right. Therefore, I voted.

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      • Freso
        xps2: And so did I.

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      • xps2
        In Japanese CD, a tilde is used by neither a subtitle nor paraphrasing. Mostly, it is not TILDE but WAVE DASH. A long time ago, TILDE was used instead of WAVE DASH. Therefore, in the web page, it may be a tilde.

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      • Freso
        xps2: ... I voted, yes. You don't have to convince me.

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      • Freso
        Eh.

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      • Freso
        * I voted yes.

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      • xps2
        Freso: I know. Sorry, I only wrote for other persons.

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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        lol? http://photovide.com/lego-excavator/

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      • _5moufl
        Is there a way to disable the auto-editor checkbox by default?

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      • _5moufl
        because some edit failed a while ago because of a no-vote and I disagreed so I thought I'd re-enter the edit so more people could vote. And I failed tu uncheck the box and I feel like a d***

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      • reosarevok
        It's gone now, anyway :p

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      • reosarevok
        You now have a "make edits votable" one, and you should not check it by default anyway

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      • reosarevok
        We want to move towards more edits being autoedits, not less

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      • reosarevok
        You can always revert the edit, then re-enter it as an open edit, anyway :)

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      • _5moufl
        reosarevok: I don't check it by default, it is checked by default :/

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      • reosarevok
        The new one is not

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      • reosarevok
        But what I mean is that you *should* auto-edit by default

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      • reosarevok
        In the rare case something should not be an autoedit, and you forget, just revert and re-enter

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      • reosarevok
        The only non-reversible edits are the ones you won't be allowed to auto-edit anyway, so

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      • _5moufl
        Reverting in this case can't be an auto-edit

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      • _5moufl
        I can auto-edit add relationships, can't remove them as an auto-edit

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      • reosarevok
        Oh

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      • reosarevok
        Oh well

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      • reosarevok
        In that case, a vote on the removal is basically equivalent to a vote on the add

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      • reosarevok
        Only difference is the rel is there for up to 7 days, which doesn't sound tragic

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      • reosarevok
        :)

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      • _5moufl
        It's weird though to enter an edit I don't want in the first place :p

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      • reosarevok
        a bit, admittedly, but

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      • _5moufl
        I don't want the remove edit to pass

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      • reosarevok
        Well I can no-vote it for you :p

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      • reosarevok
        Unless I think it should stay, that is :D

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      • reosarevok
        What is it anyway?

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      • _5moufl
        https://musicbrainz.org/artist/9c90ffbf-b137-4dee… all the latest edit. See the link in the note for the discussion.