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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        hallo Freso are you here?
      • 2015-03-01 06052, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        I screwed up and deleted a YouTube video that has a musicbrainz entry. the one at https://musicbrainz.org/recording/f037b5e4-7c8d-4…
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        there was another song I hope to do that with but didn't. this was an accident though.
      • 2015-03-01 06016, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        another recording exists more canonical and on a bicycle to boot which is how the song was written in the first place
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        again, sorry about the screwup take care bye
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      • chirlu`
        CatQuest: jesus2099 has a userscript that will display names for the more well-known deleted editors.
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      • CatQuest
        chirlu`: duude I know that,
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      • CatQuest
        :)
      • 2015-03-01 06014, 2015

      • CatQuest
        ugh his weather
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      • CatQuest
        this*
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      • chirlu`
        jesus2099: POWER_RELATE_TO is a bit outdated, isn’t it? Also that you can still switch to test.mb.org. :)
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      • hopphopp
        is it correct that this american/latin/english title is written i katakana http://musicbrainz.org/release/f2aeb61e-5886-4673… ?
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      • flamingspinach
        depends on what you mean by "correct"
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      • flamingspinach
        if you're asking whether you should edit that release, then no
      • 2015-03-01 06027, 2015

      • flamingspinach
        i.e., you shouldn't edit it, it is fine as it is
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      • flamingspinach
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      • CatQuest
        ugh. 4 out of 7 websites in my browser windows' tabs have basically identical layout (white with black topbar)
      • 2015-03-01 06034, 2015

      • CatQuest
        toggl, beatport soundcloud discogs
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      • flamingspinach
        the legacy of twitter bootstrap
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      • latsni joined the channel
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      • latsni
        Hi everyone, does someone knows if the country of a digital media release (amazon, spotify, itunes, ..) is [worldwide] or not
      • 2015-03-01 06035, 2015

      • latsni
        Or should there be several release events: amazon.com -> USA, amazon.fr -> France, but how to handle iTunes and Bandcamp?
      • 2015-03-01 06048, 2015

      • latsni
        When is a release event Worldwide?
      • 2015-03-01 06041, 2015

      • latsni
        And also i want to ask if it is possible / allowed to add a Spotify links (stream for free) to a CD (hard copy) release? I had a discussion a while ago and i am not sure what to do ..
      • 2015-03-01 06001, 2015

      • flamingspinach
        I usually put [worldwide] for digital media releases that can be purchased for download from anywhere in the world
      • 2015-03-01 06019, 2015

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      • flamingspinach
        there are some digital releases which are actually not possible to get from anywhere in the world -- a lot of japanese websites block foreign IP addresses, for example, lol
      • 2015-03-01 06050, 2015

      • flamingspinach
        hibiscuskazeneko: cool casiopea song you linked the other day :)
      • 2015-03-01 06021, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        thanks
      • 2015-03-01 06031, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        I'm considering buying some of their stuff if I can find it
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      • VxJasonxV
        COME ON CAA, LOAD MAH COVER ART :<
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        it does take a while
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      • kuno
        latsni: for iTunes I usually put the country of that iTunes store (it's in the URL), because I know that one exists and I don't want to spend time checking if its available in other country stores.
      • 2015-03-01 06052, 2015

      • kuno
        latsni: no, I don't think spotify links should be added to a CD -- they're different releases IMO.
      • 2015-03-01 06032, 2015

      • latsni
        kuno: okay thx, but it is okay to add them to digital releases or are they different, too?
      • 2015-03-01 06040, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        I'd probably add them to digital releases (as long as the tracklist and content are the same)
      • 2015-03-01 06039, 2015

      • kuno
        latsni: that should be OK -- I personally don't think digital releases should be treated like that, but the consensus in MB seems to be that if a digital release has the same tracklist, it's the same release
      • 2015-03-01 06011, 2015

      • kuno
        (even if they might sound slightly different because amazon, itunes and spotify all use their own lossy MP3/M4A encoding)
      • 2015-03-01 06020, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        right
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        The only exception would be if the distribution changed hands (as was the case with a certain 2NE1 single)
      • 2015-03-01 06043, 2015

      • latsni
        kuno: thx :)
      • 2015-03-01 06010, 2015

      • Freso
        latsni: Bandcamp releases should be [worldwide], btw. IIRC, they don't employ any per-country restrictions.
      • 2015-03-01 06030, 2015

      • Mineo
        but maybe countries do?:)
      • 2015-03-01 06035, 2015

      • Freso
        Sure, but if something is released everywhere but North Korea, I would probably still go for [worldwide].
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      • hopphopp
        flamingspinach: what is the definition of script then? because the booklet is definitely printed in latin. here is photo of it http://imgur.com/CPGwKz1
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        The "script" of a release is the writing system predominantly used on the release
      • 2015-03-01 06009, 2015

      • hibiscuskazenek1
        In that case I'd set it to Latin
      • 2015-03-01 06009, 2015

      • hibiscuskazenek1
        (I assume Juliana Hatfield isn't Japanese)
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        If you're talking about http://musicbrainz.org/release/f2aeb61e-5886-4673… I'd set it as a pseudo-release
      • 2015-03-01 06057, 2015

      • chirlu`
        According to https://musicbrainz.org/edit/21669337, it is a real release, though.
      • 2015-03-01 06011, 2015

      • kuno
        I only see latin backcover tracklists on yahoo auctions
      • 2015-03-01 06019, 2015

      • kuno
        (I guess those could be imports)
      • 2015-03-01 06032, 2015

      • hibiscuskazenek1
        It's a Japanese edition of a release by an American artist
      • 2015-03-01 06039, 2015

      • hibiscuskazenek1
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        The reason people think they're in katakana is because shopping sites often transliterate the tracks and titles to make them easier to read
      • 2015-03-01 06049, 2015

      • hopphopp
        yes exactly and as you can see on both my photo and discogs the main script in the track listing is latin
      • 2015-03-01 06003, 2015

      • hopphopp
        aha, interesting
      • 2015-03-01 06007, 2015

      • hibiscuskazenek1
        I just added the non-transliterated version: http://musicbrainz.org/release/dd42a09f-db79-4753…
      • 2015-03-01 06007, 2015

      • kuno
        hibiscuskazenek1: yes, but whether the katakana tracklisting is a pseudo-release or not depends on whether that japanese edition has a katakana tracklist on the backcover or a latin tracklisting on the backcover.
      • 2015-03-01 06033, 2015

      • hibiscuskazenek1
        I have almost never seen transliterations on the back covers of foreign artists' releases
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      • kuno
        I've seen it a few times, I don't add that much japanese stuff so I'll take your word for it if you say it's super-rare. it does happen though :)
      • 2015-03-01 06012, 2015

      • hibiscuskazenek1
        I've only seen it with Japanese domestic artists who have worked overseas (e.g. Minako Honda)
      • 2015-03-01 06019, 2015

      • hopphopp
        as i said above, i have the release and here is a photo of the track list http://imgur.com/CPGwKz1
      • 2015-03-01 06025, 2015

      • hopphopp
        english/latin
      • 2015-03-01 06007, 2015

      • hibiscuskazenek1
        We believe you
      • 2015-03-01 06012, 2015

      • hibiscuskazenek1
        (or at least I do
      • 2015-03-01 06035, 2015

      • hibiscuskazenek1
        If you like you can upload scans of it to the CAA
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      • kuno
        hopphopp: thanks! having a backcover image is always appreciated, because those are often difficult to find when discussing these things.
      • 2015-03-01 06052, 2015

      • hopphopp
        what is CAA?
      • 2015-03-01 06012, 2015

      • hibiscuskazenek1
        Cover Art Archive
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
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      • hopphopp
        hibiscuskazenek1: why should we keep the transliterated release?
      • 2015-03-01 06007, 2015

      • hibiscuskazenek1
        Just to help out people who can't read English, I guess
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      • hibiscuskazenek1
        We don't normally remove legitimate transliterations
      • 2015-03-01 06026, 2015

      • hopphopp
        but it is errouneous?
      • 2015-03-01 06022, 2015

      • hibiscuskazenek1
        no
      • 2015-03-01 06042, 2015

      • hibiscuskazenek1
        I can read katakana and I assure you it's an accurate transliteration
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      • CatQuest
        jesus2099 I summon you! (pm me)
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      • Mineo sees CatQuest has turned into an NPC
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      • CatQuest
        o_O
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      • CatQuest is just.. Looking For Group
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      • CatQuest
        :>
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      • CatQuest
        wtf. I made some edits. and I saw in the edit review some weird shit, http://musicbrainz.org/edit/31920575I never touched the disc one at all. I only edited the 3rd one.. :/
      • 2015-03-01 06016, 2015

      • CatQuest
        have no idea how to *undo* somethingI *didn't* do, so isent it to votig so I could cancel that one and just approve the ones I actually *did*
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      • CatQuest
        can someone else maybe try editing this release see what happens?
      • 2015-03-01 06045, 2015

      • CatQuest
        just collapse the two first discs and edit the third
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      • chirlu`
        Seems most likely that you accidentally clicked on some up/down arrow.
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      • CatQuest
        hmph
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      • chirlu`
        It does happen. :-)
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      • CatQuest
        yea
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      • CatQuest
        just ersj
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        This guy is driving me nuts http://musicbrainz.org/edit/31692919
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      • nikki
        hibiscuskazeneko: note that he *did* change it - whether you get a single "edit" relationship or an "add" and a "remove" depends on exactly how you replace the old values with the new ones
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      • nikki
        (and the distinction isn't very intuitive, it only works that way because the interface and edit system is too closely tied to the data model, not because one method is fundamentally better than the other)
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      • nikki
        https://musicbrainz.org/edit/31692921 was the other edit, you probably didn't see it because it had already failed when you voted on the remove
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      • CatQuest
        I think we can be a little nicer to this kris kaiser guy, he doesn't seem to be trying to break shit, but to fix shit.
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      • CatQuest
        + try to be
      • 2015-03-01 06026, 2015

      • CatQuest
        ie I can understand that he feels harrased right now
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      • nikki
        yeah, I don't think he realised he was walking into a minefield :/
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      • CatQuest
        i mean he's reading the guidelines like that
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        I did boo boo that I can't fix and I am sorry
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        deleted a youtube video that I had earlier listed as standalone recording, and youtube won't let me recover it by any means
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      • CatQuest
        even I don't see what the real isse is here. h's tryingto link all "compose" things to one entry, while some are split to moby and others are on Hall, and he's tryingotput every link on one of them?
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      • CatQuest
        that's definitely a possible reading of "don't make relationship clusters" imho
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      • CatQuest
        TheBikeGuitarist: deleted on mb or deleted on youtube?
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      • nikki
        TheBikeGuitarist: are you able to reupload it? if you can, you could just change the url on the recording
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        deleted on youtube
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      • CatQuest
        yea. just re-upload and chane the url like nikki said
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        not sure if I still have original on this computer...was from 2012
      • 2015-03-01 06057, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        but if I do will do that
      • 2015-03-01 06010, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        sorry to interrupt carry on love you folks
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      • CatQuest
        might check other "youtube" agregates. they might have the video still
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      • CatQuest
        nah, it's on topic so why not
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        what if hypothetically can't find original and not carried by other channels... will mb database detect 404 and someone change things
      • 2015-03-01 06031, 2015

      • CatQuest
        hmm.. well someoen might eventually remove the link
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      • nikki
        the url might get removed, but the recording would stay there
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      • CatQuest
        yes
      • 2015-03-01 06010, 2015

      • CatQuest
        and creating an annotation explaining it would be fine too
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      • TheBikeGuitarist
        or I will make a NEW video and put that url there will fix somehow got carried away organizing my youtube channel last night
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      • CatQuest
        hmm well.