ugh. 4 out of 7 websites in my browser windows' tabs have basically identical layout (white with black topbar)
2015-03-01 06034, 2015
CatQuest
toggl, beatport soundcloud discogs
2015-03-01 06024, 2015
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2015-03-01 06022, 2015
flamingspinach
the legacy of twitter bootstrap
2015-03-01 06002, 2015
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2015-03-01 06034, 2015
latsni
Hi everyone, does someone knows if the country of a digital media release (amazon, spotify, itunes, ..) is [worldwide] or not
2015-03-01 06035, 2015
latsni
Or should there be several release events: amazon.com -> USA, amazon.fr -> France, but how to handle iTunes and Bandcamp?
2015-03-01 06048, 2015
latsni
When is a release event Worldwide?
2015-03-01 06041, 2015
latsni
And also i want to ask if it is possible / allowed to add a Spotify links (stream for free) to a CD (hard copy) release? I had a discussion a while ago and i am not sure what to do ..
2015-03-01 06001, 2015
flamingspinach
I usually put [worldwide] for digital media releases that can be purchased for download from anywhere in the world
2015-03-01 06019, 2015
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2015-03-01 06026, 2015
flamingspinach
there are some digital releases which are actually not possible to get from anywhere in the world -- a lot of japanese websites block foreign IP addresses, for example, lol
2015-03-01 06050, 2015
flamingspinach
hibiscuskazeneko: cool casiopea song you linked the other day :)
2015-03-01 06021, 2015
hibiscuskazeneko
thanks
2015-03-01 06031, 2015
hibiscuskazeneko
I'm considering buying some of their stuff if I can find it
2015-03-01 06035, 2015
VxJasonxV
COME ON CAA, LOAD MAH COVER ART :<
2015-03-01 06046, 2015
hibiscuskazeneko
it does take a while
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2015-03-01 06053, 2015
kuno
latsni: for iTunes I usually put the country of that iTunes store (it's in the URL), because I know that one exists and I don't want to spend time checking if its available in other country stores.
2015-03-01 06052, 2015
kuno
latsni: no, I don't think spotify links should be added to a CD -- they're different releases IMO.
2015-03-01 06032, 2015
latsni
kuno: okay thx, but it is okay to add them to digital releases or are they different, too?
2015-03-01 06040, 2015
hibiscuskazeneko
I'd probably add them to digital releases (as long as the tracklist and content are the same)
2015-03-01 06039, 2015
kuno
latsni: that should be OK -- I personally don't think digital releases should be treated like that, but the consensus in MB seems to be that if a digital release has the same tracklist, it's the same release
2015-03-01 06011, 2015
kuno
(even if they might sound slightly different because amazon, itunes and spotify all use their own lossy MP3/M4A encoding)
2015-03-01 06020, 2015
hibiscuskazeneko
right
2015-03-01 06031, 2015
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hibiscuskazeneko
The only exception would be if the distribution changed hands (as was the case with a certain 2NE1 single)
2015-03-01 06043, 2015
latsni
kuno: thx :)
2015-03-01 06010, 2015
Freso
latsni: Bandcamp releases should be [worldwide], btw. IIRC, they don't employ any per-country restrictions.
2015-03-01 06030, 2015
Mineo
but maybe countries do?:)
2015-03-01 06035, 2015
Freso
Sure, but if something is released everywhere but North Korea, I would probably still go for [worldwide].
2015-03-01 06049, 2015
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2015-03-01 06023, 2015
hopphopp
flamingspinach: what is the definition of script then? because the booklet is definitely printed in latin. here is photo of it http://imgur.com/CPGwKz1
2015-03-01 06002, 2015
hibiscuskazenek1
The "script" of a release is the writing system predominantly used on the release
hibiscuskazenek1: yes, but whether the katakana tracklisting is a pseudo-release or not depends on whether that japanese edition has a katakana tracklist on the backcover or a latin tracklisting on the backcover.
2015-03-01 06033, 2015
hibiscuskazenek1
I have almost never seen transliterations on the back covers of foreign artists' releases
2015-03-01 06037, 2015
kuno
I've seen it a few times, I don't add that much japanese stuff so I'll take your word for it if you say it's super-rare. it does happen though :)
2015-03-01 06012, 2015
hibiscuskazenek1
I've only seen it with Japanese domestic artists who have worked overseas (e.g. Minako Honda)
2015-03-01 06019, 2015
hopphopp
as i said above, i have the release and here is a photo of the track list http://imgur.com/CPGwKz1
2015-03-01 06025, 2015
hopphopp
english/latin
2015-03-01 06007, 2015
hibiscuskazenek1
We believe you
2015-03-01 06012, 2015
hibiscuskazenek1
(or at least I do
2015-03-01 06035, 2015
hibiscuskazenek1
If you like you can upload scans of it to the CAA
2015-03-01 06033, 2015
kuno
hopphopp: thanks! having a backcover image is always appreciated, because those are often difficult to find when discussing these things.
hibiscuskazenek1: why should we keep the transliterated release?
2015-03-01 06007, 2015
hibiscuskazenek1
Just to help out people who can't read English, I guess
2015-03-01 06021, 2015
hibiscuskazenek1
We don't normally remove legitimate transliterations
2015-03-01 06026, 2015
hopphopp
but it is errouneous?
2015-03-01 06022, 2015
hibiscuskazenek1
no
2015-03-01 06042, 2015
hibiscuskazenek1
I can read katakana and I assure you it's an accurate transliteration
2015-03-01 06053, 2015
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2015-03-01 06013, 2015
CatQuest
jesus2099 I summon you! (pm me)
2015-03-01 06058, 2015
Mineo sees CatQuest has turned into an NPC
2015-03-01 06023, 2015
CatQuest
o_O
2015-03-01 06034, 2015
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CatQuest is just.. Looking For Group
2015-03-01 06042, 2015
CatQuest
:>
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CatQuest
wtf. I made some edits. and I saw in the edit review some weird shit, http://musicbrainz.org/edit/31920575I never touched the disc one at all. I only edited the 3rd one.. :/
2015-03-01 06016, 2015
CatQuest
have no idea how to *undo* somethingI *didn't* do, so isent it to votig so I could cancel that one and just approve the ones I actually *did*
2015-03-01 06028, 2015
CatQuest
can someone else maybe try editing this release see what happens?
2015-03-01 06045, 2015
CatQuest
just collapse the two first discs and edit the third
2015-03-01 06019, 2015
chirlu`
Seems most likely that you accidentally clicked on some up/down arrow.
hibiscuskazeneko: note that he *did* change it - whether you get a single "edit" relationship or an "add" and a "remove" depends on exactly how you replace the old values with the new ones
2015-03-01 06001, 2015
nikki
(and the distinction isn't very intuitive, it only works that way because the interface and edit system is too closely tied to the data model, not because one method is fundamentally better than the other)
I think we can be a little nicer to this kris kaiser guy, he doesn't seem to be trying to break shit, but to fix shit.
2015-03-01 06009, 2015
CatQuest
+ try to be
2015-03-01 06026, 2015
CatQuest
ie I can understand that he feels harrased right now
2015-03-01 06042, 2015
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nikki
yeah, I don't think he realised he was walking into a minefield :/
2015-03-01 06049, 2015
CatQuest
i mean he's reading the guidelines like that
2015-03-01 06008, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
I did boo boo that I can't fix and I am sorry
2015-03-01 06028, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
deleted a youtube video that I had earlier listed as standalone recording, and youtube won't let me recover it by any means
2015-03-01 06045, 2015
CatQuest
even I don't see what the real isse is here. h's tryingto link all "compose" things to one entry, while some are split to moby and others are on Hall, and he's tryingotput every link on one of them?
2015-03-01 06005, 2015
CatQuest
that's definitely a possible reading of "don't make relationship clusters" imho
2015-03-01 06017, 2015
CatQuest
TheBikeGuitarist: deleted on mb or deleted on youtube?
2015-03-01 06018, 2015
nikki
TheBikeGuitarist: are you able to reupload it? if you can, you could just change the url on the recording
2015-03-01 06024, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
deleted on youtube
2015-03-01 06038, 2015
CatQuest
yea. just re-upload and chane the url like nikki said
2015-03-01 06051, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
not sure if I still have original on this computer...was from 2012
2015-03-01 06057, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
but if I do will do that
2015-03-01 06010, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
sorry to interrupt carry on love you folks
2015-03-01 06020, 2015
CatQuest
might check other "youtube" agregates. they might have the video still
2015-03-01 06029, 2015
CatQuest
nah, it's on topic so why not
2015-03-01 06011, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
what if hypothetically can't find original and not carried by other channels... will mb database detect 404 and someone change things
2015-03-01 06031, 2015
CatQuest
hmm.. well someoen might eventually remove the link
2015-03-01 06045, 2015
nikki
the url might get removed, but the recording would stay there
2015-03-01 06049, 2015
CatQuest
yes
2015-03-01 06010, 2015
CatQuest
and creating an annotation explaining it would be fine too
2015-03-01 06011, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
or I will make a NEW video and put that url there will fix somehow got carried away organizing my youtube channel last night