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      • snuffy
        Anybody know how picard gets the sort values for artist and albumartist? Are they downloaded with the other metadata or compiled from it on the fly?

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      • CallerNo6
        snuffy, sort names are downloaded, not computed.

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      • CallerNo6
        (and they're entered manually in MB because they really ca

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      • CallerNo6
        oops

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      • CallerNo6
        really can't be computed)

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      • snuffy
        Thanks. That's what I was afraid of.

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      • snuffy
        I need to figure out a plugin to get them the way I wan't them.

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      • CallerNo6
        Well, like I said, they really can't be done programmatically. You'd have to know the difference between middle names, mult-word family names and a bunch of other things.

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      • CallerNo6
        But I dunno, maybe your needs are different. What form do you need them in?

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      • CallerNo6
        If you want something simpler, like "just move 'the' to the end and call it good", then sure, you could do that with a script.

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      • snuffy
        Actually I want to strip off the "the' completely.

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      • snuffy
        I also would like to strip off the "Band" when there is a person's proper name

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      • snuffy
        ie The Charlie Daniels Band -> Charlie Daniels

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      • snuffy
        and format the sort fields appropriately

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      • CallerNo6
        yeah, while that's not how MB currently does it, I agree, that's a good approach.

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      • drsaunde
        callerNo6: can i ask? areas?

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      • CallerNo6
        drsaunde, argh, yeah, sorry. Real life. Will get back to areas soon.

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      • drsaunde
        46 more requests since your blog post

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      • drsaunde
        yes i'm sorry i'm annoying but this annoys me to no end

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      • CallerNo6
        copy. never feel bad about prodding me :-)

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      • Lotheric would edit on AreaBrainz

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      • Lotheric
        hehehe

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      • CallerNo6
        It's seriously tempting to do it that way.

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      • drsaunde
        47

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      • Nyanko-sensei
        snuffy: just use picard scripting?

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      • pankkake
        are digipaks square (as in same width and height)?

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      • pankkake
        http://www.discmanufacturingservices.com/template… doesn't look like it

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      • jesus2099
        pankkake: digipaks are same size as jewel case, thus the cover is horizontally rectangular

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      • jesus2099
        your image seems normal

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      • jesus2099
        nowadays there are more and more mini‐LP all‐cardboard sleeves which are square

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      • jesus2099
        while the digipak has a square plastic tray inside — i don’t like plastic but their size is better for shelving next to jewel cases :)

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      • pankkake
        https://musicbrainz.org/release/536e0cfb-3d95-453… are the double width characters legitimate?

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      • mb-chat-logger
        New post: blog: There will be no autumn 2015 schema change <http://blog.musicbrainz.org/2015/09/01/there-will-be-no-autumn-2015-schema-change/>

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      • CJ_
        What is the proper way to add a CD ID to an existing digital release?

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      • reosarevok
        CJ_: Adding a CD release in the same release group

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      • CJ_
        reosarevok, I don't understand. How do I do that?

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      • reosarevok
        Can you link to the release? Let's start there :)

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      • zas
        CJ_: a discid (if it is what you call CD ID) should only be added to a CD release (not to a digital release)

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      • CJ_
        zas, Yes. But how do I add a CD release when there already exists a digital release for the album?

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      • CJ_
        reosarevok, I already accidentally overwrote the digital release with a cd release.

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      • reosarevok
        You just add a new release in the same release group (and reuse the tracklist)

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      • zas
        CJ_: give us the link to the release you modified

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      • CJ_
        That is the part I am unclear on. How do I add the new release?

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      • zas
        CJ_: select the release group where you found the digital release, and do "Add release" from there (Editing part on the right of the screen)

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      • CJ_
        zas, I will look. I think my problem is because I was starting with Picard.

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      • zas
        please give us the link to the release you accidentally overwrote

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      • CJ_
        What is the no log prefix for this channel? It is not listed on the wiki.

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      • zas
        just [off], but you don't need to hide such url

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      • CJ_
        It appears that my changes were reverted? Or not applied yet?

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      • CJ_
        reosarevok, zas, What is the verdict?

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      • reosarevok checks

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      • reosarevok
        CJ_: there are no open edits so it doesn't seem anything is being changed

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      • zas
        i'm fixing things, you added the CD in a different RG, i merge them

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      • reosarevok
        Oh :)

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      • CJ_
        zas, I am not sure what you mean.

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      • zas
        https://musicbrainz.org/edit/34871172

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      • zas
        Digital and CD versions belong to the same release group, but often, on creation, users create a new release group with the same name

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      • zas
        in this case, both have exact same tracklist, so no doubt

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      • CJ_
        How can you tell if you are creating a new release group or not?

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      • pankkake
        first tab to select the release group, last tab shows a summary of the edits that will be done

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      • zas
        Well, multiple releases of the same album, even with bonus tracks or discs generally belongs to the same RG (release group), check guidelines: https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Release_Group

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      • CatQuest
        victorian chamber metal??

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      • CatQuest
        I'm definitly checking this out!

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      • Leftmost
        Wait, what? Where?

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      • Leftmost thinks CatQuest should listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUja-wrQVgs

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      • CatQuest
        https://musicbrainz.org/release/894e5405-f5cd-4b4…

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      • CatQuest
        https://valentinewolfe.bandcamp.com/album/musick-…

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      • CatQuest
        woa, it's like yat-kha only with metal.

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      • CatQuest
        ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ

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      • CatQuest
        awesome

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      • CatQuest
        Leftmost you know me too well :D

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      • Leftmost
        Mostly I just think this track is awesome and want people to listen to it. :)

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      • CatQuest
        it is awesome

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      • CatQuest
        oh they're on soundcloud :D \o/