CallerNo6: I don't think using wikidata to get geonames ID#s is going to be a good idea
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drsaunde
it's looking right now that over half of the geonames ID#s they have there are wrong, looks like they were added by a bot (wrong area but same name or very close), just an fyi that we shouldn't piggyback that bad data or high percentage of bad data
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CallerNo6
akk. what are you looking at?
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CallerNo6
Are you just spot-checking?
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drsaunde
yes well i'm getting my wikidata URL first, then from that url if it has a geonames # listed there...i load that number in geodata to see if it actually matches the area in question
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drsaunde
success rate 50percent so fat
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drsaunde
far
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CallerNo6
blech.
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CallerNo6
I honestly never checked, just did manual searches. Good to know.
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drsaunde
last couple have matched..but 3 out of first 6 didn't....being new i just didn't want to just accept their IDs so i checked them
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CallerNo6
trust nobody!
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CallerNo6
I hope WD isn't that bad in general.
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Lotheric
do digital booklets have drm ? or is it safe to upload to CAA ? (.pdf)
I can't submit my votes because the goddamn server is timing out!
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hibiscuskazeneko
Is this deliberate
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hibiscuskazeneko
?
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darwin
hibiscuskazeneko: yes, it's rejecting you, personally, because it knows it's you!!!
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CallerNo6
deliberate? like the server hates you?
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hibiscuskazeneko
Or someone filed complaints against me and it's stymying what I can do
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darwin
yes, some mysterious powerful person filed "complaints" against you, and we all collectively decided the appropriate response would be to make some subset of your interaction with the site give 504 HTTP server errors
The reason I'm suspicious is because I was able to vote on a different artist just a few minutes prior
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darwin
but you know that the site often features intermittent failures
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darwin
where action [x] at time [a] works, but action [x-like-y] at time [b] does not
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hibiscuskazeneko
Often times I'm told those failures are on my end only
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darwin
no, you're told that they are not reproducable, which is a very different thing
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darwin
intermittent failure is most likely to affect heavy users, and to be noticed by them
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darwin
you are a 99th percentile user?
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darwin
therefore anyone you mention a failure to is less likely than you are to encounter one?
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CallerNo6
blah blah blah logic blah blah. what it comes down to is, you're a good editor and people respect your work.
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hibiscuskazeneko
a select few don't
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darwin
fortunately in a collective context of mostly-equal peers, the view of a select few doesn't hold that much sway
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darwin
certainly not enough sway to convince the maintainers of the software to patch it in order to add features designed to subtly fuck with you?
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darwin
first because that would be a very complex way to deal with any particular beef with you instead of addressing you directly
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darwin
and second because the existence of such a feature would dramatically negatively impact community-wide trust, which would be a very dear price to pay to punish you for whatever reason?
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hibiscuskazeneko
The feature was added because of certain editors who just do what they want and ignore everyone else
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darwin
I'm with CallerNo6, we actually really like and appreciate you, and while no community will have only fans, especially when there's stuff to "actually disagree" about
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darwin
hibiscuskazeneko: the hypothetical feature you describe does not exist, but if it did, why would the project engage in such duplicity?
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darwin
hibiscuskazeneko: why would it expend the effort of being so duplicitous and scheming when more direct methods would work, and require less effort?
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hibiscuskazeneko
"There’s a way to report editors for bad behavior, from their user profiles. The reports will be sent to our https://musicbrainz.org/privileged. We’d prefer people use this method from now on for reporting unresponsive editors, or for any https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Code_of_Conduct violations. Account admins have also received an easy way to restrict a user’s editing/voting capabilities."
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hibiscuskazeneko
I can see how that can be abused
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darwin
sure, all systems of collective heriarchy can be abused
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darwin
it is impossible to define a system in such a way that it cannot be abused
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darwin
therefore your statement is null
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hibiscuskazeneko
My point is someone may have made complaints about me and I'm now being stymied
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darwin
the fact that a system can be abused does not mean that arbitrary bad things that happen to you, afraid of being abused, are signs of the system being abused
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darwin
yes, you are connecting your fear ("someone may have made complaints about me") with an arbitrary bad thing that is happening
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darwin
the connection seems very real to you, probably due to the intensity of the fear
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darwin
but to others it seems very, very unlikely, including for the reasons explicated above
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darwin
and we (at least I) feel concern for you because feeling such intense fear, and connecting unconnected things via that fear, must be unpleasant for you
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darwin
tl;dr - 504 are just 504s, no one is messing with you.
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hibiscuskazeneko
It's happened to me on other sites
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darwin
the fact that it has happened before, including to you, does not mean it is happening again
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darwin
or that its happening is very likely in a generic sense
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darwin
I understand that you are afraid of it happening to you again
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darwin
but it's ok? :D
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hibiscuskazeneko
I guess...
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darwin
I reiterate what others have said, I like you and appreciate your contribution
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darwin
and I'm certainly not giving you 504s! :D
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hibiscuskazeneko
Hmm, so it appears I only get 504 errors when I try to cast votes from a link followed from the subscription screen
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hibiscuskazeneko
e-mail*
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darwin
huh, weird! but relevant, probably?
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hibiscuskazeneko
I can edit fine from the main interface
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CatQuest
[03:56] <CallerNo6> hawke1, I think of track titles as 'recording credits' if that's your question. <-- I totally do that as well
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CatQuest
we really need to fix/edit/moderinise the emails we send out, both edit emails, subscription emails and dread.. "no votes" emails
