Your initial response comes across as straight-up aggressive.
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hibiscuskazeneko
Having dealt with him for years (all while being moked, belittled, gaslighted and threatened) what did you expect me to do?
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Leftmost
Either deal with his actions through the appropriate channels or ignore him. Aggressive behavior is not warranted.
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Leftmost
It won't solve any problems, it will just create more.
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hibiscuskazeneko
Ignoring him will only cause more damage.
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hibiscuskazeneko
He is single-handedly responsible for ruining a whole chunk of MB and most people are too afraid to go near it because of him.
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Leftmost
Behaving aggressively won't fix that.
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Leftmost
You behave aggressively toward other editors. This behavior causes problems, and you bring them here in the hopes that other people will fix them. Frankly, it's counterproductive.
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Leftmost
There have been times in the past where I've had problems with other editors and it's made me frustrated and angry. I take that as a sign that I need to step away for a while.
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hibiscuskazeneko
Stepping away only gives these people license to get away with murder.
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Leftmost
No, it doesn't. MusicBrainz is not a person and it won't be brought down by some bad edits. They've happened before. They'll happen again. We'll do our best to prevent and fix them. The site will not fall apart because of it.
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Leftmost
The site is, however, dependent on its community and on people being able to work together, even when they disagree.
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Leftmost
When you behave in a hostile manner toward another editor, it won't change their mind or solve the problem at hand. It will put them in a defensive position, where they feel the need to double down on their opinion because they're under attack.
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Leftmost
I urge you to consider whether your current approach to the site is healthy either for the project or for you. Step away for a single day and evaluate.
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hibiscuskazeneko
I have no other option at this point. Everything I present gets shot down as "not good enough" or "I can't figure it out, so it must be bogus" or "some other site says no, so you must be wrong".
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Leftmost
There are always other options, and hostility will never be the correct course of action.
looks like a bot making some questionable edits...
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ac_slater
hey guys. In picard, I can tag a song but the time/duration never gets updated. Clues?
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ac_slater
updated in the web interface *
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Leftmost
Picard doesn't submit to the web service.
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Leftmost
Well, it does for certain things, but not metadata.
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ac_slater
Interesting.
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ac_slater
I tag stuff every so often and always forget the process :(. I login, create an album/go to an existing one, click tagger, do my stuff in picard, then?
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ac_slater
apparently the submit button is greyed out... hmm
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Leftmost
Submit is only for fingerprints. No other data is included.
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ac_slater
Leftmost: I'm attempting to change the fingerprint as well
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Leftmost
If you've selected the correct release and associated the file with the right track and it's not allowing you to submit, that means the fingerprint is already associated with that recording.
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ac_slater
Leftmost: even if the web interface says "no fingerprints associated..."
Well, for the length, you'll have to set it manually since it's vinyl.
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ac_slater
ooooh.
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ac_slater
I'm glad I asked you
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Leftmost
In the web interface, that is.
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Leftmost
And can you screenshot picard when you're trying to submit the fingerprint?
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ac_slater
Leftmost: sure. Thanks for the help. I'm slow and can't find the "length" in the Edit section
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Leftmost
You're in the release editor, right?
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ac_slater
I see now. I was in the song editor
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Leftmost
Recording length is calculated automatically.
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ac_slater
awesome, thanks
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Leftmost
From the lengths set in tracklists.
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ac_slater
Leftmost: so, I'm unsure what to screen shot. I click "tagger" in the Release view, tagger loads the album, I drag the files to it, CD turns Gold, Submit button greyed out.
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ac_slater
tagger == picard
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Leftmost
You need to scan the files instead of dragging them. Otherwise it doesn't calculate a fingerprint.
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ac_slater
Leftmost: I seeee now
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ac_slater
Leftmost: thanks mate!
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Leftmost
No problem.
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ac_slater
problem solved. I'll write the process down this time. (it's probably in the illustrated guide...)
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mr-karan
Hello. I'm a CS undergrad and new to MetaBrainz community. I would like to get involved in development of the project. I have gone through the idea list and willing to get my hands wet by fixing some issues listed on the bug tracker. I have experience in development with Python. So can any mentor could assign me a specific issue that would help me
