#musicbrainz

Yas! https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.13885... :D

What am I looking at?

O_o

Is this guy posing for a calendar or something?

Those photos look like stills from an Adult Swim bumper

hi ....... just wanted to know if there is any way or any link on the site where you could also listen to music

like a youtube link

I have reason to believe that https://musicbrainz.org/release/6e7fbbcf-0974-4... are the same recordings as on disc 2 of https://musicbrainz.org/release/5cb4483f-f482-4...

what is the editing strategy that will cause me the least pain to harmonise these things?

Xof: USing jesus2099's merge helpor user script.

Sorry, mb. MASS MERGE RECORDINGS user script.

dammit freso stop making me actually *wanting* to get a facebook so I can upvote shit

blup: :p

Xof: I've entered the recording merges now: https://musicbrainz.org/release/6e7fbbcf-0974-4...

Freso: There was a user connecting and disconnecting every few minutes between 0:03 and 1:09 UTC, I guess that was the reason why people were calling. :)

But the issue self-resolved, apparently.

Ah. Yeah. My client hides joins and parts by default, so I don't see connectivity issues.

Freso (about channel opping), somebody's connection was going crazy with the quit-join-quit thing.

CallerNo6: Yes, that's what chirlu just said. :)

<https://blog.musicbrainz.org/2016/04/23/gsoc-20...

Eh.

Freso: thank you!

when will we have genres ? Is it coming after the next schema changes ?

bitmap: ^

Lotheric: Soon™

:)

with genres I guess it'll be easier to browse critiquebrainz for reviews

oh, right, when I asked if there was a genre roadmap, rob said "you should work with bitmap to write something up".

I'd totally do that if/when bitmap has a few minutes to spare.

I knew it was discussed at summit,,, I was just wondering if we were waiting for something in the schema changes

The table for the official list of tags that are genres.

oh, should I be working with chirlu instead?

Uh, I don’t see the workload here …

So I need somebody to interview. Interrogate?

hi

just a quick question... is it just me or is working with picard becoming hard for everybody? i keep getting more 503 errors than requests going through...

CallerNo6: There will be a list of strings naming possible genres (like “rock”, “classical”). If you tag an entity with a string from this list, it’s thought to be that genre. Fin.

haha. that's shorter than the list of questions I was typing.

gibbon_: https://community.metabrainz.org/t/rate-limiter...

thanks chirlu. I'll give it a read

chirlu, how is that stored in MB?

Same (or similar) to how tags work currently?

Or do some tags get a "genre" flag?

(and there is no separate genre-thingy)

I do seem to notice responsiveness when editing being very variable; are there some badly-behaved apps/sites/... sending fairly large bursts of requests? just seems odd to have snappy responsiveness for 45 seconds and then 5 minutes of crawling if it's consistently heavy load

CallerNo6: It’s regular tags.

gibbon_, Zastai : see http://stats.metabrainz.org/dashboard/db/musicb... -> servers very loaded atm :(

<insert Offics Space picture here> yeah, if regular users could just stop using MB while I'm editing, that'd be great :P

is this a polularity vs. funds thing?

bandwidth always is gibbon

chirlu, meaning no schema change at all? It'll be done in page templates or js?

i read about a 30MBit/s commitment ... considering that I know whole hosting companies that would be happy to have that. that is quite a number

CallerNo6: Except for the list of genre tags, yes.

gibbon_: Yes, that’s the limit.

chirlu, thanks. Got it (I think).

thanks for all the details

Now I can interrogate reosarevok about the list itself.

I predict “rock” and “classical” will be on it. :-)

Those aren't music genres. They're editor genres.

Wasn't the idea to have a separate field to enter genres from, even if they're stored as tags like the others?

Possibly.

The interesting thing (to me) is that you won't be able to ask the ws for genres. You'll ask for tags, compare to the list, and figure it out for yourself. IIUC.

In other words, something you could already be doing with your own list.

In principle, yes. (Though it would be possible to have a separate “genre-tags” WS include or something.)

Oh, right, of course.

But I think the hope is that an “official” list of genres, which is featured on the website and used by Picard etc., will make more people use them, add them and vote on them.

So, auto-completion would go a long way toward making that happen.

gibbon_: We're in the process of moving to a different data center, but MetaBrainz is quite a big operation, so it's not exactly something that can just be done overnight. :)

The sun never sets on the MeB empire ^

Freso: working in hosting myself and currently migrating data centers across europe this is understood quite well. I hope it works out.

reosarevok, is anybody talking about i18n w/r/t the genre list?

(With Respect To) ^

That's... a good question

Not that I can remember.

I mean, I guess the list itself is relatively easy to translate (to the extent that the terms are translatable)

Actually, I said "translate" but transliterate might be more relevant.

Like with the artist alias question, I don't care about the locale so much as the alphabet.

I hope we'll stay away from genres that aren't genres (like world, indie, urban..)

Lotheric, I agree that those don't seem to be genera (plural of genus), but they are descriptive

we can have a discussion about genres when we finally have them I guess :)

no need to do it all at once

All or naught!

haha

Lotheric, http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-8600

as long as there's a post-neo-funk-goth-punk-a-billy genre tag, i'll be happy :D

I like tags that make me sad.

<3 xkcd

Sad*der*.

love that xkcd link yes

Now that I have some people here anyway: on the Belgica soundtrack (http://musicbrainz.org/release/f69100b9-214d-49...), Soulwax appear as 15 fictitious bands (from the film). Currently I have those bands as ACs for Soulwax - would the preference be to create actual artist entries for these instead?