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      • reosarevok
        Congrats to whoever of Lotheric and drsaunders supported Toronto (one day I will remember)
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      • reosarevok
        ListMyCDs: any resources for Mahler I should definitely link in the cleanup post? :)
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      • ListMyCDs
        reosarevok: I've used https://www.gustav-mahler.eu for some work related data and for some events but not sure if there's any other useful Mahler specific sites
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      • Rince
        HIho
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      • Rince
        question: is it possible to "merge" some records of artists?
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      • Rince
        I just saw that one acappella-group has been created with different names; they have partly the same releases but it is the same group
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      • reosarevok
        Rince: yeah! Just click "Merge" on both pages
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      • Freso
        Rince: Be sure to substantiate why you believe they're the same group when you make the merge edit. :)
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      • Rince
        Hmm, will try that, thanks ;)
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      • Rince
        done, thanks
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      • reosarevok
        You can link to the edit so we can check it ;)
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      • CatQuest
        those are the only remixes worth their salt imho
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      • CatQuest
        if you don't actually add anything of substance toit, what's the point of remixing it in the first place
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      • CatQuest
        be aware of that "remix menas different things"
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      • CatQuest
        it can mean remixing a songby some guy
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      • CatQuest
        it can mean "mashup" where it is one song and another song of maybe even an differnt band
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      • CatQuest
        an it can mean "have the master tapes, and soundguy re-mixed the songs differently for the 25 aniversary of the release" or somethingl ike that
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      • CatQuest
        also I can't be assed to watch thel ivestream again, just incase rob decide to complain about me comlaining about ui again. super fun that was ಠ_ಠ
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      • CatQuest
        so i guess he can go an belaud anyone who goes "aaah you're changing things again"
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      • CatQuest
        (ftr: when *I* said that, it was half joking)
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      • CatQuest
        ffs
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      • CatQuest
        way to kick a personwhen they're down btw
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      • CatQuest
        first ban me thne make fun of me, real mature
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      • CatQuest
        \o everyone :D
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      • SothoTalKer
        you were banned? '-'
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      • ruaok
        just FYI CatQuest, I was not making fun of you. I was trying to protect you by sharing that story.
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      • yvanzo
        hi drsaunders, get ready for possibly a new AREQ ticket this evening ;)
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      • Freso
        We're back from the lunch break on stream! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClC89t81khDKLCVs…
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      • Freso
        Talking about merging vocal tree into INSTruments.
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      • Freso
        Update from classical editing group/community/people.
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      • Leo_Verto
        Freso: shouldn't we use a Lobes label instead of component? Or additionally?
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      • Freso
        Leo_Verto: Like with UX, I think we should use both.
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      • Freso
        A component for things that are specifically *for* Lobes itself.
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      • Leo_Verto
        👍
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      • Freso
        And a label for Lobes-related things in other (e.g., non-OTHER) projects.
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      • Leo_Verto
        Isn't CAA-83 done?
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      • BrainzBot
        CAA-83: CAA.org should be converted to Bootstrap with the Lobes theme https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/CAA-83
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      • Freso
        It looks like it.
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      • Rince
        Freso: I am against merging Vocal into Instruments.. the who acappella-Genre works without instruments ;()
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      • Freso
        Rince: This was decided a long time ago though. You should talk to our STYLE leader (reosarevok) about that.
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      • dragonzeron
        I got a question what happens if a singer has cousins and what not
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      • dragonzeron
        do we put them related or we just ignore that relationship
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      • Rince
        Freso: I will never conter an argument now, because I am new and I know that there are people thinking about these decisions
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      • Rince
        this was just a comment, from a user, nothing more. I am sure that the developer have their reasons
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      • Freso
        dragonzeron: You are allowed to create family member artist entries to enable relating two (or more) other artist entities.
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      • Freso
        E.g., https://musicbrainz.org/artist/fca7fa6a-31ff-45e7… is only added for bridging a number of other artists together.
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      • dragonzeron
        i know but if they are cousins or uncles and what not
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      • dragonzeron
        do we just say they are involved with them
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      • Freso
        If they are cousins, then you add both of the parents, relate the two parents together (sibling) and relate the parents to their children (parent/child).
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      • Freso
        "involved with" means that they were dating/romantically involved.
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      • Freso
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      • dragonzeron
        ok
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      • dragonzeron
        what happens if the parents are not musicians
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      • Freso
        Nothing.
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      • dragonzeron
        ok
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      • Freso
        «17:09:02 F<Freso> dragonzeron: You are allowed to create family member artist entries to enable relating two (or more) other artist entities.»
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      • dragonzeron
        ok
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      • Leo_Verto
        ruaok: who are the mentors for GSoC 2018?
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      • ruaok
        assume the usual suspects. we won't know for a while, really. just guess.
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      • CatQuest
        Leo_Verto: isn't GCI first though? :D
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      • ruaok
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      • ruaok
        that?
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      • bitmap
        hmm well the error says settings.py.ctmpl:5 so I assume there's a ctmpl file somewhere?
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      • bitmap
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      • reosarevok
        ruaok: #metabrainz ;)
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      • CatQuest was confused
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      • ruaok
        oh meh, sorry.
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      • CatQuest
        i mean, what else is new, but
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      • reosarevok
        Rince: the idea is that the voice is technically an instrument anyway, and that we will not create a new entity just for vocals
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      • reosarevok
        Because new entities are a huge, huge amount of work
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      • ruaok
        bitmap: over to #metabrainz
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      • CatQuest
        also: to be able to *dinally* finally! add other "voices"
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      • reosarevok
        And we want basically the same stuff for both
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      • reosarevok
        (say, to be able to link "X mainly plays violin" or "X mainly 'plays' soprano vocals" is equivalent, and so is "this work is for violin and piano" vs. "this work is for choir vocals")
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      • CatQuest
        as well as "this work is for ppiano and voice"
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      • reosarevok
        Indeed
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      • CatQuest
        was anything decided re voices in instrument tree?
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      • reosarevok
        That we should have that as one of the topics to look carefully into during the UX efforts
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      • reosarevok
        So it's probably not happening super soon, but it will happen :)
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      • Rince
        reosarevok: I thought that this would be the reason behind the decision. For a user, this is.. difficult to understand since most of the musical groups actively decided to _not_ using any instruments except their voice
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      • Rince
        reosarevok: I agree, technically and from a database point of view, it makes a lot of sense