#musicbrainz

ok

yeah I had a issue yesterday where the wikidata showed the artist and not the actual song itself

yeah I've seen things like that

it usually means there's an issue on wikidata or wikipedia

for example, one album correctly linked to the wikidata page for that album, but the English Wikipedia link associated with that wikidata was actually a link to a redirect

so when you look at the album and it retrieves the English Wikipedia page associated with the album, it'll actually display the lede from the artist's article

yeah

wait djr013 dont you edit Haruko Momoi page a lot

idk I don't recognize the name

oh its a japanese anime artist

Question, what makes the difference between a cover and an arrangement?

yeah I'm not familiar with the name and it wasn't in my browser history, you might've seen me on a bunch of other japanese artists

ok

A cover is when somebody else is singing the song that is a "known" person

maybe me and you could work together

would a remix be considered a diffrent song

say the Beatles song "Help" it could be sung by any number of people but they are not the original artist so it would be a "cover"

or goes under a new work or no

a remix is a recording, a song is a work

And an arrangement was explained to yesterday... I take song A that is written for guitar and arrange it so that it can be played on a trumpet

ok how about accoustic versions are they considered a new recording or a new work

So cover refers to vocals then and not necessarily an instrumental arrangement?

I think there can be instrumental covers.

I would say that covers are frequently (though not always) new arrangements in addition to being covers, but that not all covers are arrangements and not all arrangements are covers.

Usually I'd say that a cover is when someone records a song which was originally written and performed by a different artist. There aren't "covers" of John Williams scores because they're written to be performed by others, but there are covers of Nirvana songs because they were written to be performed by Nirvana. Others may have different views.

I think that is a good explanation.

(In fact, I would say The Bad Plus's version of "Smells Like Teen Spirit" is a cover, though it's a purely instrumental arrangement.)

Alright, I sort of get the idea now

It's a bit weird since on MusicBrainz, you can either create a new work and say that work is an arrangement, or just link to the original work as a cover

my favorite cover : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDl9ZMfj6aE :P

What would your preferences be? New work + arrangement, or link original work as cover?

I would say a lot of instrumentals would be arrangements (if they take the original and make it sound like the song, for instance)

I would usually only make a separate arrangement work if that arrangement is significant on its own, such as an arrangement which gets used by others.

A lot of CDs of Irish traditional music will say "trad., arr. by Altan", for example, but I wouldn't make an arrangement work because no one is taking that arrangement and reusing it as-is.

Yeah in that case I would just have the arranger in the relationships

Awesome, that clears up a lot for what I'm trying to put in then, thanks!

Wish this was in the guidelines but oh well

yea, that ought to be put in the guidelines

godt nytt år!

(og takk for det gamle!)

Hey there..! Happy New Year everyone : )

and a happy new year to you

vem skrattar?

I think this https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fiesta-musical-de-Chi-... is https://musicbrainz.org/release/ecef0512-3409-4...

what thinks you all?

Only difference is a few seconds in the track times

hibiscuskazeneko, is ^^ a language you can grasp a little?

Those images are hard to read because of all the glare and stickers

MajorLurker, were you replying to someone with that link?

No I was trying to determine whether they were the same

I think they are Chi Mei seems to be some sort of organisation

http://tracktype.org/index.html?fDisc/1552372 is where I picked up the violinist name

All part of the, now finished, Dvorak cleanup

Which is not finished because I found this :)

Original release added 2003 from freeDb, just going to say it is the same

hibiscuskazeneko, sorry it was not so clear, there are 2 links there

MajorLurker: It looks like that disc you found on eBay might be this release

The English track titles are printed on the back cover

I´m calling it as such.... add was in 2003 so ...

practially yesterday

yesterday was 2017 :)

:)

As do most Canadians from Quebec

:)

> most Canadias ~~from Quebec~~

I think we might hit 50 million edit tonight

FTFY

do you think we can do it

sure, just do 4 million edits

lol

Hi! I came across something weird: https://musicbrainz.org/release/441036c3-dcbf-3... The last track is 9:27, but none of the associated disc ID has a last track with a duration of 9:27

What am I missing?

That was added so long ago it is hard to say. It is likely tied up with the data track that has disappeared now.

no

we only need 4000 edits

to hit the 50 millionth edit

?

oh yeah

Thanks, how would I fix it though? Since the track times can't be edited as there are disc IDs?

just set it from the discID

click it

set track durations

Oh I see! I was going the other way around, trying to edit the track list

Great, thanks!

no worries

ferlorer???

?

btw, i wouldn't mind any more eyes on https://beta.musicbrainz.org/edit/49914727

it was something darwin wrote

oh yeah....

gibberish :)

2 more hours till 2018

blimey you´re way behind there ha

almost an enitre day as to compair with you ey, mr lurker

bloody near

natta!

good night :)

4 more hours for me :)

it will be 7pm here then

on the 1st

smells like Australia :) I used to live there

:) .... and you left?

ahah yeah, I had a good time, but it was just too far from home

Well it is a long way from most places :)

WHere is home now?

I leave in Seattle these days, but home is France technically

Where are you in AU? I used to live in Canberra

Down south, Victoria,

just out of Melbourne about 60km

bit quicker to home from Seattle

hehe yeah :)

welp, it's officially 2018 here

finally

I'm on the other side of the International Date Line

Yes I know, 17 hours behind :)

The other 3 US time zones (including Alaska and Hawaii) still have at least an hour left

happy new year