#musicbrainz

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Hello Chan_Monster.

hi rdswift

how are you doing?

Okay.

Did you need help with something?

sounds like there is room for improvement

not really, just checking out some channels

doing nightshift atm so i have some spare time

grab some food, boi

In that case, I'm going to leave you and go make breakfast/lunch/supper. :-) Have fun surfin'.

thx, enjoy your meal

Hi everyone. I'm in the process of adding some soundtracks and came across one from Korea. A few of the artists aren't in the database yet. The only source I have so far is for the 'transliterations' (they aren't exactly, but it's close enough) of their names, which is great for the sort name but not perfect if I want to add their actual names as a

n alias. What do I do now?

wisp_: Just add the transliterated names. They’re not Wrong™ afterall.

If someone later comes around and can identify them with their original names, they can be updated then.

Perfect, thanks!

Some imperfect data is still better than no perfect data. :) (As long as it isn’t wrong data!)

Freso: you should come to bornhack next month and give a talk about brainz stuff

Why an adding an IPI code for artist (even if its empty) composer is a week long edit?

after react and some Much Needed™ highly voted ticets are done, we *really* need to do a little overhaul of the edit system and reconfigure edits that shoud lbe auto+ timeit takes to get them trough

my pet peeve: adding relationship is autoedit for autoeditors. but removing them is not only non-auto but requires *at the very minimum* 48 hours open

great to prevent removal of data

Am i right that IPI can be used to uniquely identify an artist?

not so great if you accidentlaly added some relationships too many

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

CatQuest, may be you can help me...

know nothing about ipi

also i'm busy and after i'm going out :D

No, i mean another question i am going to ask :)

sorry

hm?

well if it's trivial no problem

I am adding production music from here: https://harmony-music.sourceaudio.com/#!explore.... Some arist have usual names in Name_Surname and some are in full name like Name_FatherName_Surname. What's the rule here?

Can i add them all in usual format and add full names as aliases?

with the underscore?

no

anyway just add the artist name as used.

if thre is a longer name you add that as "legal name"

anyway father's name could easily be a middle name?

it depends

Ok, i found also a problem for myself that there could be variations like Tim/Tomothy, Dan/Daniel, etc. I am afraid i could add duplicates.

ok let me actulaly loo kat the pge

ugh.. i can't copy paste a name to make an example but: jsut use whatever name is in the tracklist. so some Michael Ian Thingy shoudl be Michael Ian Thingy

Damn... Already did in another way. :)

uh

But i suppose nothing wrong in this?

I have no idea what other name than Michael Ian Thingy to use for that person?

I did in a way "Michael Thingy" and added "Michael Ian Thingy" as a legal name - is this ok?

that's.. probably less ideal?

if they're listed with Michael Ian then that's theri name

ther eare probably a lot more "michael Thingy i nthe wrld and in the database thna Michael Ian

Dunno.. I am checking their facebooks now and there they names themselves differently

facebook is linked from the site oyu linked?

facebook is official artist's facebook?

No, i get them from their label production facebook profile.

hm. well then a) not 100% it's the right facebook

b) coudl be private facebook

c) look for other pages too and other pages in other databases

Rate your music, discogs allmucic, etc

No, i am sure its correct ones - corresponds with the google searches.

if the general sue is toward "Michael Thingy" use that. if the general use is "Michael Ian Thingy" use that

Just all in one place while adding the releases in 90% i have to add them since they are not in mb database.

well fo the releases the name shoudl be "Michael Ian Thingy" anyway, as that's how they are crdited. but if the artist generally goes without "Ian" thne artist in mb should probably be wiotuth

use credit and add aliases

The problem, CatQuest, i cant say which is "general" here.. They are not listed at all in public albums on amazon, spotify, etc and only listed here on production site.

In PRO databases they always listed with full names as u probably know.

.. then I'd be safe and use middle names after all. it is easier to disambiguate them and easier to make sure wrong attributions aren't added to the. in anycase they cna be edited later

well i think MB is a PRO database :D

anyway i don't know many more databases than rym, discogs allmusic and soem specialist ones

idk if they are pro or not

i guess?

I saee. I would also like to ask - is here any "specialist" in merging artists? I suppose i still made some mistakes and now need to split recordings/works.

I don't know. ask here. I need to go now . sorry

No, CatQUest by PRO i mean performance rights organizations like ascap, bmi, etc.

ok?

i odn't know

I don't know anything about performance rights databases or production music *at all*

I see. Well, thanks anyway CatQuest.

I'm doen with busy thing i was doing and now i'm leaving. ok

well i'm sorry i couldn't hlpe much

bye :)

Tykling: Is that an official invitation with expenses covered? :p

Freso: I wish we could afford it, then it would be

Tykling: https://bornhack.dk/bornhack-2019/info/#travel-... says Gelsted station, but that’s in Middelfart?

Huh. Hylkedamsvej 52 is also Middelfart… is BornHack not on Bornholm this year?

yes, we moved to Funen to make it more accessible

but we're keeping the name since it rolls off the tongue nicely :)

I was thinking it might be nice to go anyway since I live in Sweden now, so Bornholm is slightly closer… but it is in fact further away now. 😩

And neither Danish nor Swedish travel planner can tell me the cost. Ah well.