rdswift is hungry because it's after 7:30 PM and he hasn't eaten yet today.
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Chan_Monster
doing nightshift atm so i have some spare time
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Chan_Monster
grab some food, boi
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rdswift
In that case, I'm going to leave you and go make breakfast/lunch/supper. :-) Have fun surfin'.
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Chan_Monster
thx, enjoy your meal
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wisp_
Hi everyone. I'm in the process of adding some soundtracks and came across one from Korea. A few of the artists aren't in the database yet. The only source I have so far is for the 'transliterations' (they aren't exactly, but it's close enough) of their names, which is great for the sort name but not perfect if I want to add their actual names as a
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wisp_
n alias. What do I do now?
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Freso
wisp_: Just add the transliterated names. They’re not Wrong™ afterall.
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Freso
If someone later comes around and can identify them with their original names, they can be updated then.
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wisp_
Perfect, thanks!
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Freso
Some imperfect data is still better than no perfect data. :) (As long as it isn’t wrong data!)
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Tykling
Freso: you should come to bornhack next month and give a talk about brainz stuff
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Darkloke
Why an adding an IPI code for artist (even if its empty) composer is a week long edit?
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CatQuest
after react and some Much Needed™ highly voted ticets are done, we *really* need to do a little overhaul of the edit system and reconfigure edits that shoud lbe auto+ timeit takes to get them trough
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CatQuest
my pet peeve: adding relationship is autoedit for autoeditors. but removing them is not only non-auto but requires *at the very minimum* 48 hours open
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CatQuest
great to prevent removal of data
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Darkloke
Am i right that IPI can be used to uniquely identify an artist?
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CatQuest
not so great if you accidentlaly added some relationships too many
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CatQuest
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Darkloke
CatQuest, may be you can help me...
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CatQuest
know nothing about ipi
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CatQuest
also i'm busy and after i'm going out :D
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Darkloke
No, i mean another question i am going to ask :)
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CatQuest
sorry
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CatQuest
hm?
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CatQuest
well if it's trivial no problem
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Darkloke
I am adding production music from here: https://harmony-music.sourceaudio.com/#!explorer?…. Some arist have usual names in Name_Surname and some are in full name like Name_FatherName_Surname. What's the rule here?
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Darkloke
Can i add them all in usual format and add full names as aliases?
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CatQuest
with the underscore?
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Darkloke
no
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CatQuest
anyway just add the artist name as used.
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CatQuest
if thre is a longer name you add that as "legal name"
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CatQuest
anyway father's name could easily be a middle name?
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CatQuest
it depends
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Darkloke
Ok, i found also a problem for myself that there could be variations like Tim/Tomothy, Dan/Daniel, etc. I am afraid i could add duplicates.
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CatQuest
ok let me actulaly loo kat the pge
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CatQuest
ugh.. i can't copy paste a name to make an example but: jsut use whatever name is in the tracklist. so some Michael Ian Thingy shoudl be Michael Ian Thingy
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Darkloke
Damn... Already did in another way. :)
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CatQuest
uh
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Darkloke
But i suppose nothing wrong in this?
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CatQuest
I have no idea what other name than Michael Ian Thingy to use for that person?
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Darkloke
I did in a way "Michael Thingy" and added "Michael Ian Thingy" as a legal name - is this ok?
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CatQuest
that's.. probably less ideal?
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CatQuest
if they're listed with Michael Ian then that's theri name
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CatQuest
ther eare probably a lot more "michael Thingy i nthe wrld and in the database thna Michael Ian
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Darkloke
Dunno.. I am checking their facebooks now and there they names themselves differently
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CatQuest
facebook is linked from the site oyu linked?
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CatQuest
facebook is official artist's facebook?
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Darkloke
No, i get them from their label production facebook profile.
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CatQuest
hm. well then a) not 100% it's the right facebook
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CatQuest
b) coudl be private facebook
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CatQuest
c) look for other pages too and other pages in other databases
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CatQuest
Rate your music, discogs allmucic, etc
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Darkloke
No, i am sure its correct ones - corresponds with the google searches.
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CatQuest
if the general sue is toward "Michael Thingy" use that. if the general use is "Michael Ian Thingy" use that
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Darkloke
Just all in one place while adding the releases in 90% i have to add them since they are not in mb database.
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CatQuest
well fo the releases the name shoudl be "Michael Ian Thingy" anyway, as that's how they are crdited. but if the artist generally goes without "Ian" thne artist in mb should probably be wiotuth
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CatQuest
use credit and add aliases
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Darkloke
The problem, CatQuest, i cant say which is "general" here.. They are not listed at all in public albums on amazon, spotify, etc and only listed here on production site.
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Darkloke
In PRO databases they always listed with full names as u probably know.
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CatQuest
.. then I'd be safe and use middle names after all. it is easier to disambiguate them and easier to make sure wrong attributions aren't added to the. in anycase they cna be edited later
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CatQuest
well i think MB is a PRO database :D
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CatQuest
anyway i don't know many more databases than rym, discogs allmusic and soem specialist ones
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CatQuest
idk if they are pro or not
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CatQuest
i guess?
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Darkloke
I saee. I would also like to ask - is here any "specialist" in merging artists? I suppose i still made some mistakes and now need to split recordings/works.
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CatQuest
I don't know. ask here. I need to go now . sorry
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Darkloke
No, CatQUest by PRO i mean performance rights organizations like ascap, bmi, etc.
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CatQuest
ok?
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CatQuest
i odn't know
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CatQuest
I don't know anything about performance rights databases or production music *at all*
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Darkloke
I see. Well, thanks anyway CatQuest.
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CatQuest
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CatQuest
well i'm sorry i couldn't hlpe much
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CatQuest
bye :)
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Freso
Tykling: Is that an official invitation with expenses covered? :p
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Tykling
Freso: I wish we could afford it, then it would be
