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      • Lotheric is from Quebec!
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      • Lotheric
        yeah yeah ok.. Canada
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      • Lotheric
        for now!
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      • Lotheric
        :P
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      • squigz
        Nothing wrong with Canada. Quebec on the other hand...
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      • elomatreb[m]
        Do we have an established standard about how to deal with artist credits of the form "<PersonA> of <unrelated group PersonA is a member of>"?
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      • elomatreb[m]
        Putting the group into the artist credit feels weird because they didn't actually contribute anything, but putting it into the join phrase also doesn't feel right.
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      • antlarr
        just in case anyone wants to give his/her opinion: https://musicbrainz.org/edit/62952889
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      • antlarr
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      • CatQuest
        om what *is* this "it fels wrong to put $thing in the joinphrase" attitude thats going wrong?
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      • CatQuest
        er going on
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      • elomatreb[m]
        CatQuest: It feels like a hack, because it's clearly not a "join" phrase
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      • elomatreb[m]
        I take it you're saying I should put it into the join phrase?
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      • CatQuest
        nah I'mwell I've done both myself so I really don't have an opinion. probably the *correct* is to pu it in the "join" phrase
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      • CatQuest
        it's worth noteing that we added the ability to have a trailing "join" phrase exactly *so* various things like & friends and other "not artists" parts of artist credits could be added proerøy
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      • CatQuest
        erh properly*
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      • elomatreb[m]
        I just remembered this edit (https://musicbrainz.org/edit/60004173) we both entered the same release and I put the credit on track 21 into the artist credit (not the join phrase though), but you're properly crediting the group
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      • CatQuest
        yea i probably shouldn't have done that (can't open the linklink because it's blanked by () :D )
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      • elomatreb[m]
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      • CatQuest
        thanks!
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      • CatQuest
        yea, probably your waywas the right way
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      • CatQuest
        I remember that, I had that in the "to make" (in an open tab) for too long after. that's why I made a dupe :D
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      • CatQuest
        are you merging them? probably merge into yours
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      • CatQuest
        wait are you the user "#"
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      • CatQuest
        no you have the same name
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      • elomatreb[m]
        They already are merged :)
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      • CatQuest
        yeps oops
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      • elomatreb[m]
        But yeah that open edit on the release is another thing I'm not too sure about
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      • CatQuest
        i'm voting no actualy. i want more reason than "don't do this" by an user called "#" :P
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      • elomatreb[m]
        I recall having a conversation about these compilation "label artists" before, but if we're going to have them it should probably at least be consistent
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      • CatQuest
        it shoudl be a consensus at the very least
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      • CatQuest
        I think it should be according if the "compilation lable artist" sees themselves as a "compilation artist group thing" or not
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      • CatQuest
        chiptunes = win certanly do
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      • CatQuest
        (also, hype! only 2 days and new release!)
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      • CatQuest
        elomatreb[m]: you can comment your "I recall having a conversation about.." on the edit yourself actually.
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      • elomatreb[m]
        I'm currently looking up the edits where I talked about it
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      • CatQuest
        👍
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      • CatQuest
        I'm going to go eat breakfast and put a dough of bread ecasue it is lammas and breadmass \o/ 🍞
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      • elomatreb[m]
        https://musicbrainz.org/edit/54478162 is the one I was thinking about, but it isn't particularly decisive
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      • CatQuest
        it's ok not to be decisive :)
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      • reosarevok
        finalsummer: is there a particular reason to the "Don't add various artists compilations here." addition to https://beta.musicbrainz.org/edit/53627196 ?
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      • reosarevok
        Like, do you mean generic chiptunes compilations, or ones put out by Chiptunes = WIN, or something else?
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      • CatQuest
        it's fine if we decide this but I thikn we should come to an agreement first :)
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      • antlarr
        I guess I'm late for the conversation, but I don't think "Jon Greco of Weird at Last" is crediting two artists, but only one (named "Jon Greco of Weird at Last")
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      • antlarr
        IMO, "of Weird at Last" is being used as a kind of disambiguation text in the eyes of whoever wrote that
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      • antlarr
        elomatreb[m]: ^
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      • elomatreb[m]
        Yeah, or maybe a promotional thing (i.e. to say this isn't just Some Rando)
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      • antlarr
        right
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      • elomatreb[m]
        This was the track/recording that prompted me to ask initially, fwiw: https://musicbrainz.org/recording/25af875d-c66c-4… - I added the group as a join phrase, especially since it applies to both of the credited artists
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      • finalsummer
        CatQuest: there's thousands of bandcamp releases using the label name instead of various artists.
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      • finalsummer
        this one has some individual recordings credited to it
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      • antlarr
        the official homepage of an artist is already gone but it's still in the web archive. Is it ok if I add the link to the web archive and set it to "official homepage" ?
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      • reosarevok
        antlarr: if you set it as ended, yes
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      • reosarevok
        Otherwise, unclear :)
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      • antlarr
        You mean, setting the person as deceased, right?
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      • reosarevok
        No, the URL
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      • antlarr
        the url can't be set to ended, can it?
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      • antlarr
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      • reosarevok
        finalsummer, CatQuest: they call themselves a "dynamic international chiptune collective". Whether that's an artist or just a label is a good question, but
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      • reosarevok
        antlarr: it can, but only from the URL info page
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      • finalsummer
        there's some recordings credited to the artist itself. https://musicbrainz.org/artist/2b542c4a-694a-49b9…
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      • elomatreb[m]
        (i.e. Artist > Relationships > The URL you want has an [info] link next to it -> Edit)
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      • antlarr
        reosarevok: ah, I see, I never saw that url info page before :)
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      • finalsummer
        i don't see the difference from having a 'cafe del mar' artist to this
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      • antlarr
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      • finalsummer
        there's multiple people compiling these chiptune albums (credited individually in release notes)
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      • squigz
        ...
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      • squigz
        For real?
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      • reosarevok
        Sigh
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        Will comment
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      • squigz
        'seal poo' is a new one. I like it
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      • antlarr
        ?!?!?! that's sad
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      • reosarevok
        squigz: half-relatedly: apparently otter poop actually smells pretty nice!
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      • reosarevok
        I bet seal poop doesn't though.
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      • squigz
        I...
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      • squigz
        don't know hwo to respond to that
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      • reosarevok
        I just wish we had been called otter shit instead
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      • reosarevok
        That'd be more fun :p
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      • squigz
        haha
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      • squigz
        otters are adorable
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      • CatQuest
        uh what did the "this tweet is unavailable" say?
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      • CatQuest
        :|
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