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      • chaban
        Alright, adding the parents with children relationships as votable:
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      • reosarevok
        chaban: the sibling cluster thing we ignore
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      • reosarevok
        See "This page used to be a guideline. It's no longer one, since it shouldn't be the editors' job to worry about clusters - but it is an important issue to keep in mind when designing (and proposing) new relationships. When possible (and reasonable), try to find an alternative that does not imply clusters of relationships"
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      • reosarevok
        For siblings, that's not reasonable
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      • reosarevok
        Add them all
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      • chaban
        That will take a while.
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      • reosarevok
        It's not that bad, you can open all 4, and add 3 to one, 2 to the next, 1 to the last :)
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      • chaban
        Done.
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      • chaban
        Now I wonder if it still makes sense to keep the parents.
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      • reosarevok
        Are they relevant musically in any way?
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      • chaban
        Not that I'm aware.
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      • reosarevok
        Then maybe not? I dunno
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      • chaban
        Couldn't find anything relevant and canceled my edits.
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      • Freso
        Lotheric: :p
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      • Lotheric
        don't tongue me out at 5am in the morning :P
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      • Lotheric
        Freso: on neo-trad.. yep it does seems like a similar definition
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      • Freso
        Lotheric: How about 6:30? :p
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      • chaban
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      • Freso
        chaban: If they don’t learn, please report through proper channel(s). :)
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      • chaban
        I know but first I wanted to observe them.
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      • chaban
        I doubt this qualifies as discography page but maybe as a new relationship type: https://musicbrainz.org/edit/64652679
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      • reosarevok
        chaban: seems like a good otherdbs page
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      • reosarevok
        kepstin: IIRC you know about this kind of stuff: would http://dr.loudness-war.info/ be a good otherdbs link for releases?
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      • CatQuest
        [01:26] <chaban> Only question is how to link them as siblings. We are not supposed to create clusters: https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Do_not_cluster
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      • CatQuest
        afaik that is pretty depreciated as a guideline. reosarevok ?
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      • CatQuest
        ehehe
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      • reosarevok
        CatQuest: read until the end! :p
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      • CatQuest
        reosarevok: yes apparently!
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      • CatQuest
        reosarevok: yes apparently! :D
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      • CatQuest
        eh
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      • CatQuest
        hmm but that page . should probably have some border or osme thing ot show that it is *not* a current guideline per say
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      • CatQuest
        i never agreeed with "avoid relationship clusters" guideline anyway. it was dumb and the so-called issues with it is easily avoidabel by simply linking everyone with everyone
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      • CatQuest
        reosarevok: can we edit/reword/remove outdated parts of that? ie, reconfigure it to be a "guideline for consitheration when creating relationships, not for editors at large"
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      • CatQuest
        i thikn it will create issues with peopel ooking at this, not reading the introduction and going straight to solutions and doing liek chabna did, thne creating new unneeded artists to make "special members" (whih creates a whole lot more problemsthan it solves anyway)
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      • CatQuest
        chaban: where did you find this page anyway? it's no longer a styleguide, was it linked anywhere promenetly?
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      • kepstin
        reosarevok: imo it's fine - that's a user-submitted database, but relies on a proprietary dynamic range scanner (kinda meh, but whatever)
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      • kepstin
        reosarevok: you'd want links like http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/168103 to be attached at the release level in musicbrainz
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      • kepstin
        (they actually have published the algorithm that the old version of the DR meter uses, and still accept submissions with that http://www.dynamicrange.de/sites/default/files/Me… fwiw)
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      • SothoTalKer
        kepstin: well, the new MAAT droffline costs money
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      • SothoTalKer
        one should create a new open source program.+
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      • iconoclasthero
        i swear i don't do this on purpose but I'm trying to rip https://musicbrainz.org/release/4a565dc2-6916-418…
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      • iconoclasthero
        disc 1 is listed as having the same number of tracks as on the cover, however disc one itself is not recognized by picard and has 21 tracks.
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      • SothoTalKer
        i feared it would be justin bieber
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      • SothoTalKer
        iconoclasthero: barcode match?
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      • iconoclasthero
        where is that?
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      • iconoclasthero
        nvm: negative
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      • iconoclasthero
        076119510020
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      • iconoclasthero
        the latter
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      • iconoclasthero
        ok, i see t 21 there.
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      • SothoTalKer
        ther first is the one in our database
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      • SothoTalKer
        second one is missing
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      • iconoclasthero
        fuck...
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      • iconoclasthero
        how do I get the first two discs to pull into a new Rel. Grp?
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      • SothoTalKer
        if it werent for 5 CDs with various artists, i would import the release from discogs :p
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      • iconoclasthero
        Oh... Interesting, the one I have has the same first 2CDs as the first one you posted
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      • SothoTalKer
        but you can do that for me
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      • iconoclasthero
        oh yeah, there's that script.
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      • iconoclasthero
        alright well i'm burning daylight so I'll deal with this later, thanks!
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      • SothoTalKer
        if you need help, just ping :)
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      • SothoTalKer
        you do have a different release than the 5 CD one?
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      • iconoclasthero
        no, it is the same as what is on the discogs page
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      • iconoclasthero
        except it is a compilation of three compilations
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      • iconoclasthero
        the second two discs are the history of ska
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      • SothoTalKer
        budget release
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      • iconoclasthero
        and the 5th is grounation: the mystic revelation of rastafari
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      • SothoTalKer
        it's quite common that they reuse tracklists