#musicbrainz

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      • treeshateorcs
        okay, so it's time to make my first contribution to musicbrainz. i just these guys' discography https://nishaiar.bandcamp.com/ , i have picard and chromaprint installed, what do i do next?
      • 2020-01-26 02614, 2020

      • treeshateorcs
        *bought
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      • darwin
        the easiest way to get started is to install the bandcamp importer script for your browser
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      • darwin
        and then do a workflow where you use the bandcamp release as a template for new releases in musicbrainz, and then tag your files with that release
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      • darwin
        there is also a submission flow via picard, but I don't know anything about that, unfortunately
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      • treeshateorcs
        thanks! i will try the extension first and report back
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      • SothoTalKer
        darwin: i import the release from discogs if available, then attach the DiscID - saves a bit of typing :P
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      • SothoTalKer
        then i rip the CD with EAC, then I use Picard to link AcoustIDs and for metadata, then I use AB extractor to submit AB info XD
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      • treeshateorcs
        >You haven’t entered a complete artist credit.
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      • treeshateorcs
        what does it want from me?
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      • SothoTalKer
        you need to make it green
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      • treeshateorcs
        i figured that much
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      • treeshateorcs
        ah
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      • treeshateorcs
        done
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      • SothoTalKer
        MusicBrainz relies heavily on linked entities. since names can sometimes slightly differ or multiple artists share a name, you need to link the underlying ID
      • 2020-01-26 02630, 2020

      • SothoTalKer
        same for releases and albums and recordings and works ^^
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      • treeshateorcs
        i had to capitalize the artists name
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      • treeshateorcs
        and it turned green
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      • SothoTalKer
        you can click on edit and use the slightly extended menu to select and artist and add a "credited as" name
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      • SothoTalKer
        common example is "The Beatles" when they are sometimes just credited as "Beatles" or "The Beetles" etc :P
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      • treeshateorcs
        okay now i need to submit acoustids
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      • treeshateorcs
        the button on picard is greyed out, why is that?
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      • SothoTalKer
        did you use "scan"?
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      • treeshateorcs
        yep
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      • treeshateorcs
        nothing happened
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      • SothoTalKer
        did you assign the files to a release?
      • 2020-01-26 02626, 2020

      • treeshateorcs
        i don't think so, they are just a folder on my computer. i added the folder into picard
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      • treeshateorcs
        they are in the left column
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      • SothoTalKer
        when the files are in the middle pane, use scan on them
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      • treeshateorcs
        i did, nothing changed
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      • SothoTalKer
        then just load the release manually in picard and drag and drop the files onto the right pane
      • 2020-01-26 02620, 2020

      • SothoTalKer
        idealy just drop them onto the album, they should get matched to the right track automatically
      • 2020-01-26 02633, 2020

      • treeshateorcs
        oh i did a lookup and it worked this time
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      • SothoTalKer
        because those are 2 different things :)
      • 2020-01-26 02629, 2020

      • SothoTalKer
        lookup does what the name says, based on the already present metadata and filename it does a lookup
      • 2020-01-26 02642, 2020

      • SothoTalKer
        that usually gives good matches
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      • treeshateorcs
        hm, i can't scan in the right column
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      • treeshateorcs
        but i submitted acoustids for one of the albums
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      • treeshateorcs
        managed to
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      • treeshateorcs
        i think
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      • SothoTalKer
        scan computes the fingerprint and uses that for identifying the files. if there is no acoustid linked to the recording, it won't find a thing
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      • SothoTalKer
        just drag the files on the middle pane again to scan them :P
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      • treeshateorcs
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      • SothoTalKer
        turn on the file browser with ctrl+B ;-)
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      • treeshateorcs
        ok so i scanned them while in the middle pane
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      • treeshateorcs
        do i drag them to the right pane?
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      • SothoTalKer
        yes
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      • SothoTalKer
        if you scanned them, just drag the files onto the right
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      • SothoTalKer
        they should match to the right tracks
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      • treeshateorcs
        yay! finally done, thank you so much for the help
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      • SothoTalKer
        yw
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      • SothoTalKer
        i think this part of picard still needs some improvements :))
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      • treeshateorcs
        yeah, i think so too
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      • treeshateorcs
        but it's great. it helped me greatly after i downloaded my collection from google play music. it was just a bunch of mp3s piled in one folder
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      • SothoTalKer
        no good filenames?
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      • treeshateorcs
        01 - song's name.mp3
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      • treeshateorcs
        in that format
      • 2020-01-26 02641, 2020

      • treeshateorcs
        btw google play music lets you store up to 50k mp3 files for free. so it's a great way to backup your collection
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      • SothoTalKer
        i don't have a collection :<
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      • SothoTalKer
        what about flac, though? :>
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      • treeshateorcs
        i don't think lossless is something i should spend my space on
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      • treeshateorcs
        how do i make all my edits votable?
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      • treeshateorcs
        is there a setting? let me check
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      • iconoclasthero
        tree: i thought that too and then i realized how little space flac actually ends up taking and how much of a difference it can make.
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      • iconoclasthero
        not necesarily always in sound quality but if you have some tracks in surround.
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      • iconoclasthero
        i convert them to .opus to put on my phone.
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      • iconoclasthero
        and yes, there's a setting to make all edits votable at the end before you click submit right by the note
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      • SothoTalKer
        there's a checkbox at the end :P
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      • SothoTalKer
        i never use it
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      • treeshateorcs
        i mean, i want that by default
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      • treeshateorcs
        so that it's always checked
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      • treeshateorcs
        can you actually make a transcode of a flac file?
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      • treeshateorcs
        if no, that may be a pretty valid reason for me to switch to flac
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      • SothoTalKer
        transcode into what?
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      • treeshateorcs
        into less bitrate or something
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      • treeshateorcs
        like some bad people do with mp3
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      • iconoclasthero
        on the fly?
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      • iconoclasthero
        yes.
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      • iconoclasthero
        statically, absolutely.
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      • iconoclasthero
        or are you asking if you can take flac and make it smaller than flac by reducing the bit rate?
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      • iconoclasthero
        and then the answer is usually not if it is already at CD quality.
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      • iconoclasthero
        if you have a 24-96 file you could go down to 16-44.
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      • SothoTalKer
        wavpack is an option ;)
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      • iconoclasthero
        so is ape but i'm not suggesting that either.
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      • SothoTalKer
        with its hybrid mode
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      • iconoclasthero
        the jvc marine unit i have in my jeep reads flacs.
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      • iconoclasthero
        but opus is the way i'm going with compressed music because of how ubiquitious it is outside of ios
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      • treeshateorcs
        i right clicked an album cover in picard and it crashed :\
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      • SothoTalKer
        The hybrid mode provides all the advantages of lossless compression with an additional bonus. Instead of creating a single file, this mode creates both a relatively small, high-quality lossy file that can be used all by itself, and a "correction" file that (when combined with the lossy file) provides full lossless restoration.
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      • iconoclasthero
        right now my mpd server is taking the flacs that i have and transcoding them into .mp3 and .opus to stream....alexa uses the .mp3 and andriod uses the opus (as .ogg)
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      • iconoclasthero
        yeah, but it never caught on.
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      • iconoclasthero
        theoretically vorbis is also much better as a lossy format than mp3 but i never converted stuff to it.
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      • iconoclasthero
        i can get decent sound out of audio books at 17 kb/s.
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      • SothoTalKer
        with the aotuv version you can even have music at 64kb almost without any perceptible quality loss
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      • SothoTalKer
        useful when you are outside with crappy headphones anyway XD
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      • treeshateorcs
        can't seem to find where to edit genres
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      • iconoclasthero
        yeah. it looks like the transparancy point of opus is around 64-96kb
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