okay, so it's time to make my first contribution to musicbrainz. i just these guys' discography https://nishaiar.bandcamp.com/ , i have picard and chromaprint installed, what do i do next?
2020-01-26 02614, 2020
treeshateorcs
*bought
2020-01-26 02617, 2020
darwin
the easiest way to get started is to install the bandcamp importer script for your browser
2020-01-26 02647, 2020
darwin
and then do a workflow where you use the bandcamp release as a template for new releases in musicbrainz, and then tag your files with that release
2020-01-26 02614, 2020
darwin
there is also a submission flow via picard, but I don't know anything about that, unfortunately
2020-01-26 02654, 2020
treeshateorcs
thanks! i will try the extension first and report back
2020-01-26 02633, 2020
SothoTalKer
darwin: i import the release from discogs if available, then attach the DiscID - saves a bit of typing :P
2020-01-26 02654, 2020
SothoTalKer
then i rip the CD with EAC, then I use Picard to link AcoustIDs and for metadata, then I use AB extractor to submit AB info XD
2020-01-26 02641, 2020
treeshateorcs
>You haven’t entered a complete artist credit.
2020-01-26 02648, 2020
treeshateorcs
what does it want from me?
2020-01-26 02657, 2020
SothoTalKer
you need to make it green
2020-01-26 02606, 2020
treeshateorcs
i figured that much
2020-01-26 02616, 2020
treeshateorcs
ah
2020-01-26 02619, 2020
treeshateorcs
done
2020-01-26 02655, 2020
SothoTalKer
MusicBrainz relies heavily on linked entities. since names can sometimes slightly differ or multiple artists share a name, you need to link the underlying ID
2020-01-26 02630, 2020
SothoTalKer
same for releases and albums and recordings and works ^^
2020-01-26 02631, 2020
treeshateorcs
i had to capitalize the artists name
2020-01-26 02644, 2020
treeshateorcs
and it turned green
2020-01-26 02625, 2020
SothoTalKer
you can click on edit and use the slightly extended menu to select and artist and add a "credited as" name
2020-01-26 02657, 2020
SothoTalKer
common example is "The Beatles" when they are sometimes just credited as "Beatles" or "The Beetles" etc :P
2020-01-26 02657, 2020
treeshateorcs
okay now i need to submit acoustids
2020-01-26 02658, 2020
treeshateorcs
the button on picard is greyed out, why is that?
2020-01-26 02620, 2020
SothoTalKer
did you use "scan"?
2020-01-26 02640, 2020
treeshateorcs
yep
2020-01-26 02647, 2020
treeshateorcs
nothing happened
2020-01-26 02658, 2020
SothoTalKer
did you assign the files to a release?
2020-01-26 02626, 2020
treeshateorcs
i don't think so, they are just a folder on my computer. i added the folder into picard
2020-01-26 02638, 2020
treeshateorcs
they are in the left column
2020-01-26 02603, 2020
SothoTalKer
when the files are in the middle pane, use scan on them
2020-01-26 02629, 2020
treeshateorcs
i did, nothing changed
2020-01-26 02640, 2020
SothoTalKer
then just load the release manually in picard and drag and drop the files onto the right pane
2020-01-26 02620, 2020
SothoTalKer
idealy just drop them onto the album, they should get matched to the right track automatically
2020-01-26 02633, 2020
treeshateorcs
oh i did a lookup and it worked this time
2020-01-26 02657, 2020
SothoTalKer
because those are 2 different things :)
2020-01-26 02629, 2020
SothoTalKer
lookup does what the name says, based on the already present metadata and filename it does a lookup
2020-01-26 02642, 2020
SothoTalKer
that usually gives good matches
2020-01-26 02652, 2020
treeshateorcs
hm, i can't scan in the right column
2020-01-26 02609, 2020
treeshateorcs
but i submitted acoustids for one of the albums
2020-01-26 02613, 2020
treeshateorcs
managed to
2020-01-26 02633, 2020
treeshateorcs
i think
2020-01-26 02649, 2020
SothoTalKer
scan computes the fingerprint and uses that for identifying the files. if there is no acoustid linked to the recording, it won't find a thing
2020-01-26 02608, 2020
SothoTalKer
just drag the files on the middle pane again to scan them :P
if you scanned them, just drag the files onto the right
2020-01-26 02628, 2020
SothoTalKer
they should match to the right tracks
2020-01-26 02644, 2020
treeshateorcs
yay! finally done, thank you so much for the help
2020-01-26 02607, 2020
SothoTalKer
yw
2020-01-26 02655, 2020
SothoTalKer
i think this part of picard still needs some improvements :))
2020-01-26 02619, 2020
treeshateorcs
yeah, i think so too
2020-01-26 02613, 2020
treeshateorcs
but it's great. it helped me greatly after i downloaded my collection from google play music. it was just a bunch of mp3s piled in one folder
2020-01-26 02650, 2020
SothoTalKer
no good filenames?
2020-01-26 02609, 2020
treeshateorcs
01 - song's name.mp3
2020-01-26 02617, 2020
treeshateorcs
in that format
2020-01-26 02641, 2020
treeshateorcs
btw google play music lets you store up to 50k mp3 files for free. so it's a great way to backup your collection
2020-01-26 02600, 2020
SothoTalKer
i don't have a collection :<
2020-01-26 02645, 2020
SothoTalKer
what about flac, though? :>
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treeshateorcs
i don't think lossless is something i should spend my space on
2020-01-26 02643, 2020
treeshateorcs
how do i make all my edits votable?
2020-01-26 02649, 2020
treeshateorcs
is there a setting? let me check
2020-01-26 02604, 2020
iconoclasthero
tree: i thought that too and then i realized how little space flac actually ends up taking and how much of a difference it can make.
2020-01-26 02629, 2020
iconoclasthero
not necesarily always in sound quality but if you have some tracks in surround.
2020-01-26 02642, 2020
iconoclasthero
i convert them to .opus to put on my phone.
2020-01-26 02603, 2020
iconoclasthero
and yes, there's a setting to make all edits votable at the end before you click submit right by the note
2020-01-26 02609, 2020
SothoTalKer
there's a checkbox at the end :P
2020-01-26 02615, 2020
SothoTalKer
i never use it
2020-01-26 02624, 2020
treeshateorcs
i mean, i want that by default
2020-01-26 02638, 2020
treeshateorcs
so that it's always checked
2020-01-26 02657, 2020
treeshateorcs
can you actually make a transcode of a flac file?
2020-01-26 02617, 2020
treeshateorcs
if no, that may be a pretty valid reason for me to switch to flac
2020-01-26 02637, 2020
SothoTalKer
transcode into what?
2020-01-26 02615, 2020
treeshateorcs
into less bitrate or something
2020-01-26 02634, 2020
treeshateorcs
like some bad people do with mp3
2020-01-26 02615, 2020
iconoclasthero
on the fly?
2020-01-26 02617, 2020
iconoclasthero
yes.
2020-01-26 02623, 2020
iconoclasthero
statically, absolutely.
2020-01-26 02651, 2020
iconoclasthero
or are you asking if you can take flac and make it smaller than flac by reducing the bit rate?
2020-01-26 02608, 2020
iconoclasthero
and then the answer is usually not if it is already at CD quality.
2020-01-26 02632, 2020
iconoclasthero
if you have a 24-96 file you could go down to 16-44.
2020-01-26 02650, 2020
SothoTalKer
wavpack is an option ;)
2020-01-26 02610, 2020
iconoclasthero
so is ape but i'm not suggesting that either.
2020-01-26 02612, 2020
SothoTalKer
with its hybrid mode
2020-01-26 02620, 2020
iconoclasthero
the jvc marine unit i have in my jeep reads flacs.
2020-01-26 02649, 2020
iconoclasthero
but opus is the way i'm going with compressed music because of how ubiquitious it is outside of ios
2020-01-26 02634, 2020
treeshateorcs
i right clicked an album cover in picard and it crashed :\
2020-01-26 02632, 2020
SothoTalKer
The hybrid mode provides all the advantages of lossless compression with an additional bonus. Instead of creating a single file, this mode creates both a relatively small, high-quality lossy file that can be used all by itself, and a "correction" file that (when combined with the lossy file) provides full lossless restoration.
2020-01-26 02633, 2020
iconoclasthero
right now my mpd server is taking the flacs that i have and transcoding them into .mp3 and .opus to stream....alexa uses the .mp3 and andriod uses the opus (as .ogg)
2020-01-26 02604, 2020
iconoclasthero
yeah, but it never caught on.
2020-01-26 02625, 2020
iconoclasthero
theoretically vorbis is also much better as a lossy format than mp3 but i never converted stuff to it.
2020-01-26 02657, 2020
iconoclasthero
i can get decent sound out of audio books at 17 kb/s.
2020-01-26 02626, 2020
SothoTalKer
with the aotuv version you can even have music at 64kb almost without any perceptible quality loss
2020-01-26 02605, 2020
SothoTalKer
useful when you are outside with crappy headphones anyway XD
2020-01-26 02647, 2020
treeshateorcs
can't seem to find where to edit genres
2020-01-26 02624, 2020
iconoclasthero
yeah. it looks like the transparancy point of opus is around 64-96kb
