#musicbrainz

https://musicbrainz.org/release/c44f2868-a2c2-4... this loads instantly

and it has 100 discs

it would be nice if you could auto edit delete those 1 track mediums. it would be annoying since i have to ask for edit approval to add stuff now

Mediums removals can't be auto-edited. They could be turned into the right mediums, though.

It's weird to me that it's *so* slow, though. bitmap: even a lot of relationships shouldn't make a 6xCD time out :/ Any idea what might be going on?

theres 3000+ relationships

can not even you auto-approve deletions?

https://musicbrainz.org/release/0d1f3efd-33d1-4... it would be nice if you could auto-approve what you can. there's two different sacd layers because one is a multichannel mix

Nobody can auto-approve a deletion

Even with 3 votes, it will always take 48 hours to remove

To try and ensure nothing is removed wrongly

time to wait a week then. i'm pretty annoyed at the addition of these fake discs with no usable information to be honest

Well, I voted on those, if two others vote you need to wait 48 h, not a week

finalsummer: can you do me a favour?

You're not an autoeditor, right? Have you donated to MB recently?

(I'm hoping you haven't)

Any other non-autoeditors who haven't donated would do too, if any is around :)

i'm really broke right now, sorry

I don't want you to donate :)

I want to check if something wokrs

*works

oh okay lol

Can you go to https://musicbrainz.org/account/donation and see whether it thinks you have donated?

It's broken for newly created accounts, but dunno if it's broken for everyone

Thank you for contributing to MusicBrainz.

You will never be nagged again!

i haven't donated ever, i'm pretty sure

Sigh

Thanks!

ok, @finalsummer - I added those mediums to try and get it to load - but I see no reason to enter delete edits for them. they just need to be edited as needed (i.e. add the other tracks)

in fact you added a new medium as a "fix" where all that was needed was to adjust the medium type and name, and set the track artist.

ah no, I see, you added the 2 layers

(which will rather mess up the disc numbering vs medium numbering, but I suppose that's how it works)

I also approved the fix edits for those media, as well as that cd-layer addition

and I see the release loads now - guess the threshold is 11 then

@reosarevok is there a style guideline for dealing with box sets including hybrid SACDs? it's good that we have info on both layers, but it does mean we have no "nice" way of seeing the real disc numbers

Zastai: please change your votes to yes. i'm not an auto-editor. don't want to wait a week for edits to pass so that i can add relationships to the recordings.

Not sure I understand the issue. If you add tracks (and their recordings) to the medium, aren't they immediately available in the relationship editor?

If not the change could be approved - but of course if there's already a release for example then it'd be trickier

(as in, a medium to reuse)

Zastai: https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Release#Mediu...

@finalsummer if your week refers to the delete edit to clear, if you cancel it, I would expect you to be able to add tracks and relationships to the mediums without issue

I think adding tracks does need an approval

But we could approve that

ah so unapproved tracks would not show up in the relationship editor?

@reosarevok I was thinking more along the lines of allowing some sort of "disc N:" prefix on the medium name, but that's also not ideal. Perhaps mediums could support an entry field for their medium number (a bit like series allow you to "name" their sequence number)

that way, the CDs would still have their "natural" disc number, with the SACD being 9a and 9b or something

They wouldn't, no

The recordings don't even exist until the edit passes

ah, I see

the quickest would then indeed be to vote the deletes through; otherwise finalsummer would have to wait for an approve after each of the medium's track additions before being able to add relationships

or I could use discogs info to add the missing tracks as an autoedit, so that only style fixups are needed (but the entities would be otherwise fine)

i had to go afk. it seems like it got resolved either way

i have no idea how to deal with the hybrid sacd thing, but there needs to be two mediums since one contains a multichannel mix = different recording

oh i agree with you there

just unfortunate that it skews the medium numbers shown vs the physical disc numbers

main question is whether you want me to add the missing tracks as an autoedit (using titles from discogs and best effort recording match). that way, you could cancel the deletes and just enter fixes and relationships immediately

otherwise you're probably still at least partially stuck waiting for the delete etc

i already submitted delete edits and i dont have time to edit right now

or rather, i don't have the box physically near me

Let's just get the deletes passed then, it will take a couple days but not too crazy

ok

I apologise for all the inconvenience - I was trying to deblock the editing process; and I've been an autoeditor too long to remember what dependency issues there are for edits

(I do, however, vividly remember life before the relationship editor. entering lots of ARs was a LOT more time-consuming back then)

So I figured adding 1-track mediums was safest (fewer things to get wrong requiring fixes). Turns out that was counterproductive.

hah I remember a time before *AR's* :P