It's broken for newly created accounts, but dunno if it's broken for everyone
2020-04-06 09733, 2020
finalsummer
Thank you for contributing to MusicBrainz.
2020-04-06 09734, 2020
finalsummer
You will never be nagged again!
2020-04-06 09705, 2020
finalsummer
i haven't donated ever, i'm pretty sure
2020-04-06 09703, 2020
reosarevok
Sigh
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reosarevok
Thanks!
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Zastai
ok, @finalsummer - I added those mediums to try and get it to load - but I see no reason to enter delete edits for them. they just need to be edited as needed (i.e. add the other tracks)
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Zastai
in fact you added a new medium as a "fix" where all that was needed was to adjust the medium type and name, and set the track artist.
2020-04-06 09745, 2020
Zastai
ah no, I see, you added the 2 layers
2020-04-06 09758, 2020
Zastai
(which will rather mess up the disc numbering vs medium numbering, but I suppose that's how it works)
2020-04-06 09747, 2020
Zastai
I also approved the fix edits for those media, as well as that cd-layer addition
2020-04-06 09706, 2020
Zastai
and I see the release loads now - guess the threshold is 11 then
2020-04-06 09722, 2020
Zastai
@reosarevok is there a style guideline for dealing with box sets including hybrid SACDs? it's good that we have info on both layers, but it does mean we have no "nice" way of seeing the real disc numbers
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finalsummer
Zastai: please change your votes to yes. i'm not an auto-editor. don't want to wait a week for edits to pass so that i can add relationships to the recordings.
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Zastai
Not sure I understand the issue. If you add tracks (and their recordings) to the medium, aren't they immediately available in the relationship editor?
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reosarevok
If not the change could be approved - but of course if there's already a release for example then it'd be trickier
@finalsummer if your week refers to the delete edit to clear, if you cancel it, I would expect you to be able to add tracks and relationships to the mediums without issue
2020-04-06 09714, 2020
reosarevok
I think adding tracks does need an approval
2020-04-06 09719, 2020
reosarevok
But we could approve that
2020-04-06 09742, 2020
Zastai
ah so unapproved tracks would not show up in the relationship editor?
2020-04-06 09720, 2020
Zastai
@reosarevok I was thinking more along the lines of allowing some sort of "disc N:" prefix on the medium name, but that's also not ideal. Perhaps mediums could support an entry field for their medium number (a bit like series allow you to "name" their sequence number)
2020-04-06 09707, 2020
Zastai
that way, the CDs would still have their "natural" disc number, with the SACD being 9a and 9b or something
2020-04-06 09704, 2020
reosarevok
They wouldn't, no
2020-04-06 09712, 2020
reosarevok
The recordings don't even exist until the edit passes
2020-04-06 09720, 2020
Zastai
ah, I see
2020-04-06 09731, 2020
Zastai
the quickest would then indeed be to vote the deletes through; otherwise finalsummer would have to wait for an approve after each of the medium's track additions before being able to add relationships
2020-04-06 09715, 2020
Zastai
or I could use discogs info to add the missing tracks as an autoedit, so that only style fixups are needed (but the entities would be otherwise fine)
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finalsummer
i had to go afk. it seems like it got resolved either way
2020-04-06 09717, 2020
finalsummer
i have no idea how to deal with the hybrid sacd thing, but there needs to be two mediums since one contains a multichannel mix = different recording
2020-04-06 09730, 2020
Zastai
oh i agree with you there
2020-04-06 09751, 2020
Zastai
just unfortunate that it skews the medium numbers shown vs the physical disc numbers
2020-04-06 09758, 2020
Zastai
main question is whether you want me to add the missing tracks as an autoedit (using titles from discogs and best effort recording match). that way, you could cancel the deletes and just enter fixes and relationships immediately
2020-04-06 09751, 2020
Zastai
otherwise you're probably still at least partially stuck waiting for the delete etc
2020-04-06 09756, 2020
finalsummer
i already submitted delete edits and i dont have time to edit right now
2020-04-06 09707, 2020
finalsummer
or rather, i don't have the box physically near me
2020-04-06 09737, 2020
reosarevok
Let's just get the deletes passed then, it will take a couple days but not too crazy
2020-04-06 09745, 2020
Zastai
ok
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Zastai
I apologise for all the inconvenience - I was trying to deblock the editing process; and I've been an autoeditor too long to remember what dependency issues there are for edits
2020-04-06 09719, 2020
Zastai
(I do, however, vividly remember life before the relationship editor. entering lots of ARs was a LOT more time-consuming back then)
2020-04-06 09736, 2020
Zastai
So I figured adding 1-track mediums was safest (fewer things to get wrong requiring fixes). Turns out that was counterproductive.
