#musicbrainz

riddle me this: why does discogs have 2 obviously duplicate versions of the same release, one with the catalogue nr set to the UPC? c.f. https://musicbrainz.org/edit/69754285 (yes, also vote whoring)

Those are unique releases as far as Discogs is concerned: https://support.discogs.com/hc/en-us/articles/3...

https://www.discogs.com/release/1171222 https://www.discogs.com/release/438114

hey all. been going through documentation, online examples and whatnot. trying to understand the structure of the data of music brainz, and how to properly query it. ive had some success, but i'd like to ask this question. How would one find what album, a song appeared on.

for example, what album did, artist=guns and roses, trackTitle=welcome to the jungle, appear on.

that should be queried from the 'release', database, correct?

sublim20: This query: https://musicbrainz.org/search?query=%22Welcome... will find you all the recordings of that title by artists with that name. Some of those recordings are on multiple releases, though…

I don’t believe you can search for releases by track title.

crism, thanks for the response. theres gotta be a way

I'm not sure what to do with this release: https://musicbrainz.org/release/81971724-6e26-3... it's been added without reference, it claims to be the US release, but according to discogs (https://www.discogs.com/Dannii-Minogue-Neon-Nig...) that one has an extra track

looks like the claim to be the US release was wrongly added by someone else

it looks more lik the cassette..

hi, in picard if I select multiple songs and drag&drop a new cover for them it doesn't work, it seems to only work for one song at time, is that a bug?

Rotab: hmm, yeah, it's too hard to tell. Hence my doubt what to do with it

meanwhile it has two disc ids, which are being shared with other releases...

Seeking advice regarding a comment added to an older edit of mine: https://musicbrainz.org/edit/59090858 -- can someone educate me on musicbrainz def'n of "remix" ?

Not sure there is one, it is not clearly defined in https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Release_Group/Type

“foo RG contains foo stuff” doesn’t help to figure out what “foo” is... so any improvement on that would be welcome.

@yvanzo yeah, i read that and then immediately came here :)

I'm not sure if the user is claiming there is a discernable different between a remix like "single mix" "<year> mix" and a "mashup" of songs?

I mean, if that doesn't count, then is NIN's "Fixed" album not a remix album then?

I would say, if that user knows better about remix, he would be welcome to improve the MB documentation (it's not a joke, it's a wiki).

bricas: check also https://community.metabrainz.org/search?q=remix

bricas: / yvanzo https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/History:Remix_Mean...

(its glourious history, but)

Excellent. I feel like this shows that yes, it's "technically" a mash-up, but there's no suitable way to show that other than the "Remix" release group type

well there are recording-recording mashup links

and do take what is written there with grains of salt. things have changed after it!

(we shouls maybe update this, but the discusion on the talk page and put it into non-history again (or something))

reosarevok what do you know about remix/mix/dj-mix relationships+ release-group types? :D

Not sure why reosarevok moved it to history then, but that was about 10 years ago.

very likly because 90% of what's written on it is outdated or discussion

(se refrenches to "track-track" relations)

So, my plan is to ignore this comment then. :) There is no evidence to me that shows it is clearly NOT a remix -- if the user wants it changed, they can do so as musicbrainz was designed.

Not a lot :)

I'm not sure I'd call this a remix album either, but I'm not sure what I'd call it :D

So maybe Remix is the least bad

I'm good with that :)

thanks y'all.

after find a release group, or a releases id. how can one find/show track info for the item, (as in name of the position, etc)

i've tried various inc= statements, but nothing seems to show track info. for example: http://musicbrainz.org/ws/2/release-group/0430d...

sublim20: with inc=recordings on release id: http://musicbrainz.org/ws/2/release/159be5fc-fc...

hi, in picard if I select multiple songs and drag&drop a new cover for them it doesn't work, it seems to only work for one song at time, is that a bug?

outsidecontext, zas ^

yvanzo, that worked like a charm. is there a way to include such information with a recording search? http://musicbrainz.org/ws/2/recording/?query=ar...

cause that query returns the songs track position, and total number of tracks in the release section, but that's it.

in essence, the goal of the query is this, given an artist name, and recording name, what album does this appear on, and what are the tracks on that album?

it seems to do that, would require two queries, one to find the release ids, and then one to pull up that track info for that release

sublim20: AFAIK, it requires separate queries.

yvanzo, got it. thanks for the help and conversation.

you're welcome :)

heya, do you know of a link,or a website, that has a bunch of query examples? (besides the ones of the musicbrainz site)

does https://community.metabrainz.org/ count? ;)

haha. hmmm. *turns to judges* *judges murmur for a bit, but nod* we'll allow it

there's surprisingly few articles on the web showing example query usage on musicbrainz. and the documentation, while thorough, can be over whelming for a someone new

otherwise, there are 3rd-party bindings that can help you with querying MB: https://musicbrainz.org/doc/External_Resources#...

that might be useful to peruse. thanks

here's a subtle one; I think I did the right thing, but I'm not sure: https://musicbrainz.org/edit/69776167

one copy seems to have the track artists all listed correctly, but listed the album artist as "various", despite it clearly being bang on a can (and was missing a lot of data). the other had almost everything correct, but many of the track artists were listed as "bang on a can"...

so both had errors, but not the same errors.

definitely would appreciate review from reosarevok if you get a chance.

echarlie: the general idea seems good, but the track artists should be changed

That said, I think the track titles for the one you're merging into are better, so just changing the track artists there is probably the best option

If you can be bothered I can approve :)

echarlie, see the original comments from thomnottom at https://musicbrainz.org/release/ada83fa1-bf21-4... … clearly intended to be merged, but also clear intent that Bang on a Can are the performers.

Yes, but the track artists should be the composers anyway since this is classical :)

well "classical". :) indeed, this was in WUVT's "NCP Jazz" shelf, annoyingly seperated from all the rest of the CRi

but that makes a lot more sense; import causes quirks

on a related note there, track 6, "a pond within the drifting dusk" is quite emphatically not capitalised on the liner notes. This should be reflected in the tracklist, but not the recording title?

okay, I think I got that all right. still not sure how they're attributing these all to "bang on a can all-stars"; I know some of the albums were released as such, but not everything. I may correct that, too.