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      • comradekingu
        Would it be possible to move the translations to Weblate? I can't contribute anymore since it is on Transifex.
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      • chaban
        Don't think this deserves to be voted down: https://musicbrainz.org/edit/70021193
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      • chaban
        comradekingu: This has been suggested before: https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabra…
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      • chaban
        So that's why artists want to remove their stuff: https://musicbrainz.org/edit/70100251
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      • yvanzo
        Hi comradekingu, out of curiosity, what keeps you away from Transifex?
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        transifex is buggy af
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        the argument zas had about losing some peopel if we move is valid one. but imho it's als othat severla new people will coem aboard too imho
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        (also i can't use trasnifex. not even n chrome)
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      • yvanzo
        There are issues, that’s sure. I was interested to read specifically what pushed comradekingu away.
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      • yvanzo
        FWiW, I use Transifex regularly, using Firefox.
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      • yvanzo
        There are mostly a few regular translators, and sometimes new ones joining localization teams.
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      • comradekingu
        yvanzo: I can't accept their updated terms and agreements (following EU-GDPR) since it would dual-license all my work. It amounts to quite a lot.
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      • comradekingu
        Hosted Weblate has all the good libre software translators, more activity, and a much better community collectively.
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      • comradekingu
        There is always the sentiment that moving would lose something, but always the counterfactual gains.
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      • Freso
        comradekingu: How much trouble would it be to move all existing workflows over? I think that’d be the primary issue.
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox would probably try much harder to use weblate (also because trasnifex "community" is shorely lacking imho)
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        sorely*
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      • comradekingu
        First submit a request https://hosted.weblate.org/hosting/ and then point the admin panel to the different files, freeze in Transifex, and take it from there
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      • yvanzo
        comradekingu: Thank you for sharing this licensing issue we were not aware of. Is it this condition? https://community.transifex.com/tos#3
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      • yvanzo
        Main things we are missing with Transifex are: a reliable way to credit contributors, a safer glossary (with editing history and permissions), better organized communication tools.
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      • rdswift
        I'm particularly interested in the translation discussion, because eventually we'll be looking to translate the MusicBrainz Picard User Guide https://picard-docs.musicbrainz.org (and I know absolutely nothing about the process).
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      • rdswift
        And I'm sorry to say that I only speak / read / write English, so I'm absolutely no use in this area.
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        my issues are also the glossary and bad communication tools
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      • comradekingu
        yvanzo: Those are the community guidelines, not the TM clause
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      • comradekingu
        However, it is tracking, profiling and buggy trashcan functionality across the board. What is insult and what is injury becomes meaningless in the greater sense of all of it being for the worse
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      • comradekingu
        yvanzo: Transifex does not retain translator copyright, and has lots of flaws overwriting all strings
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      • comradekingu
        rdswift: https://docs.weblate.org/en/latest/formats.html I know there is support for markdown too
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      • yvanzo
        What is the TM clause?
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      • yvanzo
        I found that retaining translator credits requires a paid plan, it is just not in the free plan for open source. ^^
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      • yvanzo
        comradekingu: Is it about agreeing to contribute translations to a global translation memory? Like here: https://crowdin.com/page/open-source-project-setu…
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      • yvanzo
        (I did not find anything about Transifex TM clause)
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      • comradekingu
        It is in the terms and conditions
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      • comradekingu
        Also the cookie policy is full of cancer
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      • comradekingu
        Transifex and Crowdin isnt the same thing, but they are very similar in that regard
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