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      • Erin
        Does this kind of import ever go wrong?: https://musicbrainz.org/release/4698115e-84f3-4d1…
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      • Erin
        Asking because this vgm listing isn't even remotely similar: https://vgmdb.net/album/287
      • 2021-03-01 06015, 2021

      • Erin
        and i'm a little confused about it
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      • darwin
        different catalog number?
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      • darwin
        also different label
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      • darwin
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      • Erin
        oh that's interesting
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      • Erin
        my fatigue must be ruining my google fu
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      • Misty_Pond
        could use some help from someone familiar-ish with japanese atm, I have a bunch of tatsuya suzukis who I'm trying to find out if they're all the same artist or not
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      • Erin
        ahhh thats always annoying
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      • Erin
        if you search the artists, do they have disambiguations?
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      • Misty_Pond
        some of them do, but there isn't a lot of other information to go off, e.g. minimal relationships and external links with little content
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      • Erin
        are you only trying to work out if they're overlapping, or do you want to find one for a circumstance
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      • Misty_Pond
        mostly if they're duplicates that should ber merged or not
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      • Misty_Pond
        * should be
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      • Misty_Pond
        https://musicbrainz.org/artist/30fff6c0-7c47-4a0e… - this is the tatsuya suzuki I've been crediting for stuff (mainly drums) as I go through my album collection
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      • Erin
        well
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      • Erin
        thats uh
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      • Erin
        thats a weird one
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      • Erin
        so the disambiguation on that says crossfaith
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      • Erin
        crossfaith is a metalcore band
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      • Erin
        ...nobody in it is named suzuki
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      • Erin
        tatsuya in the band is tatsuya amano
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      • Erin
        the drummer
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      • Misty_Pond
        ugh, vgmdb must've gotten that one wrong then (unless it's another alias), I'll go fix that one
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      • Erin
        so i would question if tatsuya suzuki from crossfaith is a real person
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      • Erin
        he has nothing linked up to him
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      • Erin
        yeah that vgm page is definitely not a crossfaith member
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      • Misty_Pond
        this is the album I originally got crossfaith from: https://musicbrainz.org/release/e18e46e1-adcc-48a… - vgmdb said this tatsuya was tatsuya suzuki, not amano
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      • Erin
        oh yeah
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      • Erin
        vgm just says "Tatsuya"
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      • Erin
        but that links to thsi guy
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      • Erin
        they definitely have their wires crossed
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      • Erin
        but!
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      • Erin
        i can help confirm one thing
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      • Misty_Pond
        well, I entered edits to correct the credit for metanoia here now
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      • Erin
        the guy on our site that you thought was crossfaith?
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      • Erin
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      • Erin
        this is thes same guy
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      • Erin
        because that album is definitely his album
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      • Misty_Pond
        yeah, I already put in a merge edit for that one, though now I'm a little doubtful because I also got that from vgmdb lolrip
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      • Erin
        well someone definitely did make the gunsmith cats thing
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      • Erin
        i usually lean on vgm but if they're both up in the air ... you do sort of have to look for source
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      • Erin
        but gunsmith cats is a bit old
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      • Erin
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      • Erin
        this matches the vgm tatsuya a bit in terms of patterns
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      • Erin
        with him being drums, composer, and arranger
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      • Erin
        unless that vgm version is not one guy
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      • Misty_Pond
        30fff6c0-7c47-4a0e-bc69-39763303b014 has some of the other relationships from vgm linked - think we should merge the two?
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      • Erin
        im trying to work out if the last one i linked actually _is_ the vgm one
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      • Erin
        by looking at pictures
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      • Erin
        they're very similar, but i cant quite tell
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      • Erin
        im gonna guess that, based on the other data the internet is indicating, this vocaloid one is not tatsuya suzuki
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      • Erin
        i dont mean not the same one
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      • Erin
        but like
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      • Erin
        not at all
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      • Erin
        he's listed as having an alias of deco 17
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      • Erin
        sorry 27
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      • Erin
        but that person is not tatsuya suzuki
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      • Erin
        that person is apparently Deko Niina, unless that's a stage name too
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      • Misty_Pond
        this is turning into a real mess lol
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      • Misty_Pond
        here's another supposed tatsuya suzuki: https://musicbrainz.org/artist/c5ec771f-068b-4ed0…
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      • Erin
        oh i see ... tatsuya suzuki did some arranging on the vocaloid laboratory album
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      • Erin
        deco*27 did the lyrics
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      • Erin
        so for that one, deco 27 is /not/ an alias of tatsuya suzuki
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      • Erin
        and if its just arranging, it begs the question ... is it the same as the other composer with that name
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      • Erin
        ( it's not oster project either btw )
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      • Erin
        id say both aliases are incorrect most likely
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      • Erin
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      • Erin
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      • Misty_Pond
        added that to c5ec771f-068b-4ed0-a58f-4e15023f3bc3's entry
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      • Erin
        im gonna guess that august ep guy is not the same one
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      • Erin
        but thats not with a whole lot of weight behind it
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      • Erin
        especially since he uses tatsu as an alt
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      • Erin
        and sure enough
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      • Erin
        the tatsuya suzuki who has composer as disambiguation?
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      • Erin
        has a stage name of tatsu
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      • Erin
        if it helps make things more confusing
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      • Erin
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      • Erin
        there's also the actor
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      • Erin
        but i dont see any credits for voice work so maybe he's nobody here
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      • Misty_Pond
        I hope so, because I'm already lost lol
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      • Erin
        here's something that might actually help
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      • Erin
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      • Erin
        tower records tatsuya suzuki
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      • Erin
        the one that definitely is involved in the gunsmith cats album
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      • Erin
        so either this one is that one, or that album has a bad reference
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      • Erin
        naturally vgm is missing some of the albums listed here
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      • Misty_Pond
        now I'm wondering if I got the right tatsuya suzuki or not for all the utena songs I tagged...
      • 2021-03-01 06044, 2021

      • Erin
        hmm
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      • Erin
        i would try to corroborate those with any of the sites that sell albums
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      • Erin
        particularly any in japanese
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      • Erin
        although unlike tower, some dont have cross linking, so that only helps a tiny bit
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      • Erin
        Misty_Pond : here's a really complete detailing of one of the utena albums https://ohtori.nu/audiology/02_Virtual_Star_Embry…
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      • Misty_Pond
        yeah, I already know about that site, but it doesn't detail the performer credits beyond vocals
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      • Erin
        the scans
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      • Erin
        the album scans include composers and arrangers
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      • Erin
        and lyricists
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      • Misty_Pond
        the scans only have "tatsuya suzuki" printed in english, no kanji or anything else
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      • Erin
        i dont see tatsuya suzuki in the scans
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      • Misty_Pond
        he's listed as a instrumental credit in the last page: https://ohtori.nu/audiology/albums/02/02_1997/Vir…
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      • Erin
        oh
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      • Erin
        very interesting
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      • Misty_Pond
        and most of the japanese stores I've looked at just don't list contributing musician credits at all, in general. no-one beyond the standard lyricist/composer/arranger/vocalist at best
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      • Erin
        yeah
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      • Erin
        he's definitely not in the staff list
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      • Erin
        or the cast l ist
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      • Erin
        so i'd say he was purely drums there
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      • Erin
        so maybe a set drummer
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      • Erin
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      • Misty_Pond
        page doesn't have much else to verify though, they don't appear to store japanese text...
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      • Erin
        yeah
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      • Erin
        its a weird thing
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      • Erin
        how do you k now w hich person who is identically named is which
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      • Erin
        when these people dont have faces you can rely on because those are just as suspect
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      • Misty_Pond
        think I'll have to put this down for the moment, I'm losing my focus. too many tatsuya suzukis to juggle
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      • Erin
        fair enough 8b
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      • Erin
        im actually going to bed
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      • atj
        reosarevok: would this be reasonable to use as a biography link? https://www.histclo.com/act/music/pro/ind/b/burco…
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      • atj
        I'm trying to kill off some of these Carnegie Hall links but some of the artists are very obscure
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      • reosarevok
        atj: looks like a biography yes, although you can just link to https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferruccio_Burco if you don't want that
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      • atj
        how did I not find that *facepalm*
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      • atj
        I guess the search was excluding foreign language results
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      • reosarevok
        I generally search Wikidata first, just in case
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      • CatQuest
        often isearch wikidata but thne not find it, but after creatin a wikidata item, i look at commons and find an image wich is linked ot a wiidata item :D