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Erin
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Erin
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4:40 AM
Erin
and i'm a little confused about it
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4:51 AM
darwin
different catalog number?
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4:53 AM
darwin
also different label
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darwin
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Erin
oh that's interesting
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Erin
my fatigue must be ruining my google fu
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Misty_Pond
could use some help from someone familiar-ish with japanese atm, I have a bunch of tatsuya suzukis who I'm trying to find out if they're all the same artist or not
2021-03-01 06039, 2021
6:31 AM
Erin
ahhh thats always annoying
2021-03-01 06047, 2021
6:31 AM
Erin
if you search the artists, do they have disambiguations?
2021-03-01 06010, 2021
6:33 AM
Misty_Pond
some of them do, but there isn't a lot of other information to go off, e.g. minimal relationships and external links with little content
2021-03-01 06042, 2021
6:33 AM
Erin
are you only trying to work out if they're overlapping, or do you want to find one for a circumstance
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6:34 AM
Misty_Pond
mostly if they're duplicates that should ber merged or not
2021-03-01 06022, 2021
6:34 AM
Misty_Pond
* should be
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Misty_Pond
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Erin
well
2021-03-01 06055, 2021
6:39 AM
Erin
thats uh
2021-03-01 06002, 2021
6:40 AM
Erin
thats a weird one
2021-03-01 06011, 2021
6:40 AM
Erin
so the disambiguation on that says crossfaith
2021-03-01 06018, 2021
6:40 AM
Erin
crossfaith is a metalcore band
2021-03-01 06028, 2021
6:40 AM
Erin
...nobody in it is named suzuki
2021-03-01 06039, 2021
6:40 AM
Erin
tatsuya in the band is tatsuya amano
2021-03-01 06053, 2021
6:40 AM
Erin
the drummer
2021-03-01 06047, 2021
6:41 AM
Misty_Pond
ugh, vgmdb must've gotten that one wrong then (unless it's another alias), I'll go fix that one
2021-03-01 06048, 2021
6:41 AM
Erin
so i would question if tatsuya suzuki from crossfaith is a real person
2021-03-01 06001, 2021
6:42 AM
Erin
he has nothing linked up to him
2021-03-01 06003, 2021
6:43 AM
Erin
yeah that vgm page is definitely not a crossfaith member
2021-03-01 06013, 2021
6:43 AM
Misty_Pond
2021-03-01 06036, 2021
6:44 AM
Erin
oh yeah
2021-03-01 06041, 2021
6:44 AM
Erin
vgm just says "Tatsuya"
2021-03-01 06049, 2021
6:44 AM
Erin
but that links to thsi guy
2021-03-01 06053, 2021
6:44 AM
Erin
they definitely have their wires crossed
2021-03-01 06016, 2021
6:45 AM
Erin
but!
2021-03-01 06020, 2021
6:45 AM
Erin
i can help confirm one thing
2021-03-01 06024, 2021
6:45 AM
Misty_Pond
well, I entered edits to correct the credit for metanoia here now
2021-03-01 06027, 2021
6:45 AM
Erin
the guy on our site that you thought was crossfaith?
2021-03-01 06043, 2021
6:45 AM
Erin
2021-03-01 06046, 2021
6:45 AM
Erin
this is thes same guy
2021-03-01 06056, 2021
6:45 AM
Erin
because that album is definitely his album
2021-03-01 06020, 2021
6:46 AM
Misty_Pond
yeah, I already put in a merge edit for that one, though now I'm a little doubtful because I also got that from vgmdb lolrip
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Erin
well someone definitely did make the gunsmith cats thing
2021-03-01 06019, 2021
6:48 AM
Erin
i usually lean on vgm but if they're both up in the air ... you do sort of have to look for source
2021-03-01 06025, 2021
6:48 AM
Erin
but gunsmith cats is a bit old
2021-03-01 06013, 2021
6:49 AM
Erin
2021-03-01 06024, 2021
6:49 AM
Erin
this matches the vgm tatsuya a bit in terms of patterns
2021-03-01 06029, 2021
6:49 AM
Erin
with him being drums, composer, and arranger
2021-03-01 06036, 2021
6:49 AM
Erin
unless that vgm version is not one guy
2021-03-01 06008, 2021
6:51 AM
Misty_Pond
30fff6c0-7c47-4a0e-bc69-39763303b014 has some of the other relationships from vgm linked - think we should merge the two?
2021-03-01 06031, 2021
6:51 AM
Erin
im trying to work out if the last one i linked actually _is_ the vgm one
2021-03-01 06036, 2021
6:51 AM
Erin
by looking at pictures
2021-03-01 06042, 2021
6:51 AM
Erin
they're very similar, but i cant quite tell
2021-03-01 06049, 2021
6:52 AM
Erin
im gonna guess that, based on the other data the internet is indicating, this vocaloid one is not tatsuya suzuki
2021-03-01 06056, 2021
6:52 AM
Erin
i dont mean not the same one
2021-03-01 06057, 2021
6:52 AM
Erin
but like
2021-03-01 06059, 2021
6:52 AM
Erin
not at all
2021-03-01 06007, 2021
6:53 AM
Erin
he's listed as having an alias of deco 17
2021-03-01 06014, 2021
6:53 AM
Erin
sorry 27
2021-03-01 06023, 2021
6:53 AM
Erin
but that person is not tatsuya suzuki
2021-03-01 06054, 2021
6:53 AM
Erin
that person is apparently Deko Niina, unless that's a stage name too
2021-03-01 06058, 2021
6:53 AM
Misty_Pond
this is turning into a real mess lol
2021-03-01 06022, 2021
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Misty_Pond
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6:55 AM
Erin
oh i see ... tatsuya suzuki did some arranging on the vocaloid laboratory album
2021-03-01 06014, 2021
6:55 AM
Erin
deco*27 did the lyrics
2021-03-01 06031, 2021
6:55 AM
Erin
so for that one, deco 27 is /not/ an alias of tatsuya suzuki
2021-03-01 06046, 2021
6:55 AM
Erin
and if its just arranging, it begs the question ... is it the same as the other composer with that name
2021-03-01 06058, 2021
6:55 AM
Erin
( it's not oster project either btw )
2021-03-01 06006, 2021
6:56 AM
Erin
id say both aliases are incorrect most likely
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6:56 AM
Erin
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Erin
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6:59 AM
Misty_Pond
added that to c5ec771f-068b-4ed0-a58f-4e15023f3bc3's entry
2021-03-01 06020, 2021
7:00 AM
Erin
im gonna guess that august ep guy is not the same one
2021-03-01 06049, 2021
7:00 AM
Erin
but thats not with a whole lot of weight behind it
2021-03-01 06009, 2021
7:01 AM
Erin
especially since he uses tatsu as an alt
2021-03-01 06012, 2021
7:01 AM
Erin
and sure enough
2021-03-01 06022, 2021
7:01 AM
Erin
the tatsuya suzuki who has composer as disambiguation?
2021-03-01 06026, 2021
7:01 AM
Erin
has a stage name of tatsu
2021-03-01 06042, 2021
7:02 AM
Erin
if it helps make things more confusing
2021-03-01 06044, 2021
7:02 AM
Erin
2021-03-01 06050, 2021
7:02 AM
Erin
there's also the actor
2021-03-01 06014, 2021
7:03 AM
Erin
but i dont see any credits for voice work so maybe he's nobody here
2021-03-01 06017, 2021
7:04 AM
Misty_Pond
I hope so, because I'm already lost lol
2021-03-01 06006, 2021
7:07 AM
Erin
here's something that might actually help
2021-03-01 06006, 2021
7:07 AM
Erin
2021-03-01 06012, 2021
7:07 AM
Erin
tower records tatsuya suzuki
2021-03-01 06023, 2021
7:07 AM
Erin
the one that definitely is involved in the gunsmith cats album
2021-03-01 06033, 2021
7:07 AM
Erin
so either this one is that one, or that album has a bad reference
2021-03-01 06027, 2021
7:09 AM
Erin
naturally vgm is missing some of the albums listed here
2021-03-01 06033, 2021
7:09 AM
Misty_Pond
now I'm wondering if I got the right tatsuya suzuki or not for all the utena songs I tagged...
2021-03-01 06044, 2021
7:10 AM
Erin
hmm
2021-03-01 06023, 2021
7:11 AM
Erin
i would try to corroborate those with any of the sites that sell albums
2021-03-01 06027, 2021
7:11 AM
Erin
particularly any in japanese
2021-03-01 06049, 2021
7:11 AM
Erin
although unlike tower, some dont have cross linking, so that only helps a tiny bit
2021-03-01 06054, 2021
7:16 AM
Erin
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7:17 AM
Misty_Pond
yeah, I already know about that site, but it doesn't detail the performer credits beyond vocals
2021-03-01 06016, 2021
7:18 AM
Erin
the scans
2021-03-01 06022, 2021
7:18 AM
Erin
the album scans include composers and arrangers
2021-03-01 06036, 2021
7:18 AM
Erin
and lyricists
2021-03-01 06046, 2021
7:18 AM
Misty_Pond
the scans only have "tatsuya suzuki" printed in english, no kanji or anything else
2021-03-01 06056, 2021
7:18 AM
Erin
i dont see tatsuya suzuki in the scans
2021-03-01 06050, 2021
7:19 AM
Misty_Pond
2021-03-01 06012, 2021
7:21 AM
Erin
oh
2021-03-01 06014, 2021
7:21 AM
Erin
very interesting
2021-03-01 06057, 2021
7:21 AM
Misty_Pond
and most of the japanese stores I've looked at just don't list contributing musician credits at all, in general. no-one beyond the standard lyricist/composer/arranger/vocalist at best
2021-03-01 06018, 2021
7:23 AM
Erin
yeah
2021-03-01 06022, 2021
7:23 AM
Erin
he's definitely not in the staff list
2021-03-01 06058, 2021
7:23 AM
Erin
or the cast l ist
2021-03-01 06003, 2021
7:24 AM
Erin
so i'd say he was purely drums there
2021-03-01 06007, 2021
7:24 AM
Erin
so maybe a set drummer
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7:24 AM
Erin
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7:30 AM
Misty_Pond
page doesn't have much else to verify though, they don't appear to store japanese text...
2021-03-01 06050, 2021
7:31 AM
Erin
yeah
2021-03-01 06055, 2021
7:31 AM
Erin
its a weird thing
2021-03-01 06003, 2021
7:32 AM
Erin
how do you k now w hich person who is identically named is which
2021-03-01 06021, 2021
7:32 AM
Erin
when these people dont have faces you can rely on because those are just as suspect
2021-03-01 06040, 2021
7:37 AM
Misty_Pond
think I'll have to put this down for the moment, I'm losing my focus. too many tatsuya suzukis to juggle
2021-03-01 06047, 2021
7:44 AM
Erin
fair enough 8b
2021-03-01 06050, 2021
7:44 AM
Erin
im actually going to bed
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atj
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atj
I'm trying to kill off some of these Carnegie Hall links but some of the artists are very obscure
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atj
how did I not find that *facepalm*
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9:54 AM
atj
I guess the search was excluding foreign language results
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9:56 AM
reosarevok
I generally search Wikidata first, just in case
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10:04 AM
CatQuest
often isearch wikidata but thne not find it, but after creatin a wikidata item, i look at commons and find an image wich is linked ot a wiidata item :D
