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Got a vinyl release that - to the best of my knowledge - was only sold on one online store. Started accepting preorders on 2021-02-16, didn't ship until 2021-04-02 - which one would be the release date for this release?

ah, never mind - just found another online store selling it, unsure when they started taking preorders

both stores didn't ship until 2021-04-02 though - guess this would be the right release date?

I think so

sweet, one other question - what's the correct packaging type for a cardboard sleeve holding a paper sleeve? like a gatefold, but doesn't fold, just has the one 12" vinyl in it

So, a normal, old school vinyl sleeve? :D

Anyway, Cardboard sleeve sounds right

yep, pretty much :P and will do - now just gotta get access to a scanner that can fit a 12" vinyl lol

You could do partial scans and then stitch them. I've done that and it works wonderfully, though takes a little bit more time

ah how do you get that to work? whenver I've tried that it jsut looks wrong

(I've got a book that's too large to scan too, no idea how to stich together such book-cover)

the main issues that crop up are some scans being squint compared to others, and if the scan is not wholly flat you can get variations in shading and the stitches become obvious

you can correct both in software fairly easily, and just be very careful when making the scans

I've visited my local library to get the scans instead as they have a big scanner

yeah that's what i was thinking, i'll just go down to my local library, surely they got a big scanner

There’s a nice tool called Scan Tailor that can fix a lot of the simple scanning problems.

<CatQuest> ah how do you get that to work? I use a utility called Hugin on my Windows system, following the tutorial at http://hugin.sourceforge.net/tutorials/scans/en... and it usually works out well for me.

I guess this one is for you CatQuest: https://musicbrainz.org/edit/78836839

chaban: yes, but eh, that looks too "novelty-y" but

red flag: "The Black Violin project began as an extension of my graphic design work"

ah, looking at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q105695123 I see it's basically a regular violin after all (it also says that "the sound and playability proved to be indistinguishable from that of an excellent traditional violin")

it's very pretty might. but

it seems to just be a normal violin. it's not like a phonofiddle or an octave fiddle or something

.. i dread to ask, phonofiddle?

is that like the strohfiol?

CatQuest phonofiddle = fiddle with phone ports

ie an electric fiddle

a fiddle that requires amplification like an electric guitar

hm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonofiddlesay phonograph 🤔

that sounds like an electric violin to me

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonofiddle damn copypaste

Hey, when we add releases that share tracks, they should be associated. If we add a release that has the actual original recording, should it be added as a new recording, and other recordings be tied to that? Or if there is a match, should they just be associated as-is?

I believe that electric fiddles are the same principle as a phonofiddle

recordings can be merged. but if you know they are the same thne you cna reuse thme in the "recordings" tab whne adding releases

Thanks, CatQuest . I am doing my best to find and associate existing recordings in the database. My question is... I am adding releases that predate existing releases in the database. These releases I have have the actual first recording of the recording, whereass existing entries all tie to a recording of a later date.

evelyn: I'm not sure I follow you, when I think of "phono" (as in phonograph) I think of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroh_violin (which is lso linked)

what you said about "phone" made me think of something like a phone with electronics attached (especially phone, like a smartphone, rasperry-pi/synth thing)

meLon: actually the "date" becomes that of the earliest attached release. so once you attach this recording to the earliest original release (provided it is the same ofcourse) thne that becoems the date

Oh hot automation! Nice ty for information

I'm saying its the same principle because original phonofiddles were fiddles with amplification, for when they were recorded acoustically or electrically. With the advent of modern electric guitars etc, it came to be analaguous to electric guitars and became the electric guitar

ie, if there is a match,they should just be associated as-is" to pharaphrase youtrself

because nobody records as we did on 78s etc anymore.

evelyn: eh, organically this is very different though

all the phonofiddles I have seen have been electric fiddles

my friend had one

like stroh violins are aplified due ot an actual phonograph "trackt" no electric wiering at all

it was called a phonofiddle but it was just like an electric guitar

yea. that's completely differnt

ie, mechanically amplified versus electrically amplified

well what do i know, maybe modern stroh fiddles are also electriclaly amplified

anyway https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonofiddle spesifies they are a 1899-ish invention. mechanically amplified.

this seems liek a case of "same name used to explain differnt things"

which everything is ripe with becasue ofcourse it is :P

what' the difference especially between your kind of "phonofiddle" and "electric violin" (eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_violin )?

would using the latter with an instrument credit be Good Enough™?

(I ask because, if "phonofiddle" to describe "electric violin" is a sufficiently often used term, I will have ti add alaises and maybe even disambiguiation text)

ie "for the electrically amplified instrument also called "phonofiddle" see [Electric Violin]" / "for the mechanically amplified instrument with a phonotrackt see [Stroh violin]" etc

hem. even oxford online (abd grove book I have here agrees: https://www-oxfordmusiconline-com.wikipedialibr...

"A type of Stroh Violin with a single string")

It seems like the 'bass' thing

the same name describes multiple instruments

but if you know if it's an electric violin pick that!~

So, this trick of adding ?tport=8000 to the end of the URLs is great... but I have to do it EVERY TIME. Is there a way to have it just ... be there?

or even better, I add a release, it opens in Picard Mmmm that'd be hawt

Thanks, I'll give that a shot

oof. Breaks the Discogs userscript, it seems