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      • srxl
        Got a vinyl release that - to the best of my knowledge - was only sold on one online store. Started accepting preorders on 2021-02-16, didn't ship until 2021-04-02 - which one would be the release date for this release?
      • ah, never mind - just found another online store selling it, unsure when they started taking preorders
      • both stores didn't ship until 2021-04-02 though - guess this would be the right release date?
      • reosarevok
        I think so
      • srxl
        sweet, one other question - what's the correct packaging type for a cardboard sleeve holding a paper sleeve? like a gatefold, but doesn't fold, just has the one 12" vinyl in it
      • reosarevok
        So, a normal, old school vinyl sleeve? :D
      • Anyway, Cardboard sleeve sounds right
      • srxl
        yep, pretty much :P and will do - now just gotta get access to a scanner that can fit a 12" vinyl lol
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      • chaban
        You could do partial scans and then stitch them. I've done that and it works wonderfully, though takes a little bit more time
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      • CatQuest
        ah how do you get that to work? whenver I've tried that it jsut looks wrong
      • (I've got a book that's too large to scan too, no idea how to stich together such book-cover)
      • evelyn
        the main issues that crop up are some scans being squint compared to others, and if the scan is not wholly flat you can get variations in shading and the stitches become obvious
      • you can correct both in software fairly easily, and just be very careful when making the scans
      • I've visited my local library to get the scans instead as they have a big scanner
      • srxl
        yeah that's what i was thinking, i'll just go down to my local library, surely they got a big scanner
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      • crism
        There’s a nice tool called Scan Tailor that can fix a lot of the simple scanning problems.
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      • rdswift
        <CatQuest> ah how do you get that to work? I use a utility called Hugin on my Windows system, following the tutorial at http://hugin.sourceforge.net/tutorials/scans/en... and it usually works out well for me.
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      • chaban
        I guess this one is for you CatQuest: https://musicbrainz.org/edit/78836839
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      • CatQuest
        chaban: yes, but eh, that looks too "novelty-y" but
      • red flag: "The Black Violin project began as an extension of my graphic design work"
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      • ah, looking at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q105695123 I see it's basically a regular violin after all (it also says that "the sound and playability proved to be indistinguishable from that of an excellent traditional violin")
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      • it's very pretty might. but
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      • evelyn
        it seems to just be a normal violin. it's not like a phonofiddle or an octave fiddle or something
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      • CatQuest
        .. i dread to ask, phonofiddle?
      • is that like the strohfiol?
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      • evelyn
        CatQuest phonofiddle = fiddle with phone ports
      • ie an electric fiddle
      • a fiddle that requires amplification like an electric guitar
      • CatQuest
      • that sounds like an electric violin to me
      • meLon
        Hey, when we add releases that share tracks, they should be associated. If we add a release that has the actual original recording, should it be added as a new recording, and other recordings be tied to that? Or if there is a match, should they just be associated as-is?
      • evelyn
        I believe that electric fiddles are the same principle as a phonofiddle
      • CatQuest
        recordings can be merged. but if you know they are the same thne you cna reuse thme in the "recordings" tab whne adding releases
      • meLon
        Thanks, CatQuest . I am doing my best to find and associate existing recordings in the database. My question is... I am adding releases that predate existing releases in the database. These releases I have have the actual first recording of the recording, whereass existing entries all tie to a recording of a later date.
      • CatQuest
        evelyn: I'm not sure I follow you, when I think of "phono" (as in phonograph) I think of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroh_violin (which is lso linked)
      • what you said about "phone" made me think of something like a phone with electronics attached (especially phone, like a smartphone, rasperry-pi/synth thing)
      • meLon: actually the "date" becomes that of the earliest attached release. so once you attach this recording to the earliest original release (provided it is the same ofcourse) thne that becoems the date
      • meLon
        Oh hot automation! Nice ty for information
      • evelyn
        I'm saying its the same principle because original phonofiddles were fiddles with amplification, for when they were recorded acoustically or electrically. With the advent of modern electric guitars etc, it came to be analaguous to electric guitars and became the electric guitar
      • CatQuest
        ie, if there is a match,they should just be associated as-is" to pharaphrase youtrself
      • evelyn
        because nobody records as we did on 78s etc anymore.
      • CatQuest
        evelyn: eh, organically this is very different though
      • evelyn
        all the phonofiddles I have seen have been electric fiddles
      • my friend had one
      • CatQuest
        like stroh violins are aplified due ot an actual phonograph "trackt" no electric wiering at all
      • evelyn
        it was called a phonofiddle but it was just like an electric guitar
      • CatQuest
        yea. that's completely differnt
      • ie, mechanically amplified versus electrically amplified
      • well what do i know, maybe modern stroh fiddles are also electriclaly amplified
      • anyway https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonofiddle spesifies they are a 1899-ish invention. mechanically amplified.
      • this seems liek a case of "same name used to explain differnt things"
      • which everything is ripe with becasue ofcourse it is :P
      • what' the difference especially between your kind of "phonofiddle" and "electric violin" (eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_violin )?
      • would using the latter with an instrument credit be Good Enough™?
      • (I ask because, if "phonofiddle" to describe "electric violin" is a sufficiently often used term, I will have ti add alaises and maybe even disambiguiation text)
      • ie "for the electrically amplified instrument also called "phonofiddle" see [Electric Violin]" / "for the mechanically amplified instrument with a phonotrackt see [Stroh violin]" etc
      • hem. even oxford online (abd grove book I have here agrees: https://www-oxfordmusiconline-com.wikipedialibr...
      • "A type of Stroh Violin with a single string")
      • evelyn
        It seems like the 'bass' thing
      • the same name describes multiple instruments
      • but if you know if it's an electric violin pick that!~
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      • meLon
        So, this trick of adding ?tport=8000 to the end of the URLs is great... but I have to do it EVERY TIME. Is there a way to have it just ... be there?
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      • or even better, I add a release, it opens in Picard Mmmm that'd be hawt
      • chaban
      • meLon
        Thanks, I'll give that a shot
      • oof. Breaks the Discogs userscript, it seems
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