#musicbrainz

yeah, it's been back, the OSUOSL people couldn't figure out what was up

there was a function call that was failing because it's written for ints, not bigints, but that should just fail immediately, so it doesn't explain the load :/

Hmm.

I may still do some more investigation

in, y'know, a week, after this schema change stuff is hopefully done

I wonder how many of those 0.2% are just front images not set to front

I guess that's only a couple thousand, we could make a page

report!

nikki out of interest were do you buy your japanese releases?

new from yesasia.com or secondhand from ebay

but japanese releases aren't cheap

okay that is a pity...

i'm think i stick with this tool as release country http://users.musicbrainz.org/~luks/ean.html

it won't always be right then

hmmm....

then i have to assume that the information of Discogs is correct

that it is a European release and not a US release

what the barcode says

removing the asin from an amazon url makes it pretty damn useless ¬_¬ as does removing the id from an itunes url

Eek.

srotta: It's pretty good guess when release has songs by Finnish that it's released only on Finland. But digital releases makes that more complicated... what I recently added some releases from itunes - I've set release country to Finland - but for real most of them are really released world wide (or at least also some other countries than Finland)

Is there some Jaikoz dev?

Jozo: True. Of course that goes also for other digital stores. How about Spotify?

Jozo: ijabz, he's on -devel

srotta, what about Spotify?

reosarevok: I meant, what's the release country, when something is released in Spotify?

Although technically it probably is - a stream-only release

srotta: Spotify api tells you every release country :)

Problem is Spotify has country restrictions anyw.

Jozo: Oh?

yeah, that

but what reosarevok said. It's only stream-only nowadays

reosarevok: Well, it's stream-only at the moment, but that's recent development - you could buy tracks through Spotify as well.

you could?

huh

I had no idea

And once they fix their system, they'll probably introduce it again.

Curious

srotta: Is that buy possibility removed some time ago?

Well, yeah, the API gives you the countries

oh, btw, remember you can link spotify to MB with the stream rel ;)

BTW. Is there some tool check what itunes, spotify and others apis give you... It's kinda frustrating use those apis by hand...

Jozo: I'm not a frequent user, so I don't know when it was removed. Last time I used it buying was available, but a friend of mine said a few days ago it's not there anymore.

Jozo: well, nikki has the import from iTunes script

And of course, the list of buyable songs is different from streamable. Or at least I suspect it is, since the provider is different.

I expect you could easily tell it to print to a page instead of to seed the release editor :)

srotta: Also I'm not used spotify after it changed to pay for.

heh

I do

(since last month when we got it here)

3.5€/mo are worth it to avoid the hassle of finding crap in youtube

I didn't use it before, I don't use it now. I've used it maybe two dozen times altogether, it just doesn't fit my mode of operation.

I tried spotify once but it didn't have what I wanted

heh

It's ok for finding out what something sounds like, but that's not enough to even make me start it up, much less to pay for it.

So, no Japanese music? :)

I wasn't looking for japanese music :P

I've used Spotify about two years my only player...

"Extreme Rectal Avantgarde"

Go go go grindcore names

Maybe I should try Spotify again

(and BTW Spotify is good ISRC source for different recordings)

And I'm on over half for setting recordings to work by Misfits... (And that just 'cos some work is missing and then looked that there is no-one added recording-work relations nor secondhandsong relations)

http://www.minc.gr.jp/db/ （音楽の森） has turned to login only service… I had to create an account and change my search URLs (they changed that too)

reosarevok: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/22086203 - please add some check that I do not add SHS performance relation to work.

Jozo: please add a ticket ;)

reosarevok: I'm too lazy. :/

I can easily do that after the schema change

But I will forget before then if there's no ticket :p

Hmm. What to eat at 4:30am?

Leftmost: Lihamakaronilaatikko is what I ate today for that time.

Leftmost: my choice yesterday was milk with cereal

(after all, closest meal is breakfast, right? :p)

Pretty sure I'm out of milk. What a sorry state I'm in.

Jozo: meat, pasta and what's laatikko? :)

reosarevok: in oven.. (with milk and eggs)

Nice

May have to wait a couple hours for the store to open.

reosarevok: (and on other channel someone tells me that macaroni casserole is correct translation)

:)

Hmm. To me macaroni casserole implies no meat and probably no eggs, but I suspect it's a close equivalent when translated culturally.

eh, casserole is a broad term :P

Macaroni casserole less so, in my idiolect at least.

theere, lazy Jozo, added a ticket myself :p http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-6233

I'll probably get it done for the next release after schema change :)

reosarevok: Thanks :)

How do you guys handle gerne?

are you use it?

In MusicBrainz or in our personal collections, MarcelvanLeeuwen?

(in MusicBrainz, we don't at all right now)

both

In our collections, that depends. Some people use the picard plugin that gets genre info from last.fm

I have no idea how well that works, but people seem mostly happy with it

okay

i'll use jaikoz to tag my music

I'm unsure how jaikoz does genre stuff

It might get some info from discogs? (which does have genre info)

yes your right

i've seen that

Is Discogs a good source?

of genre? I have no idea, I don't use genre myself. I expect it's reasonably OK

yes of gerne

I'm not sure if you can have a "good source" of genre data, since it's quite subjective :)

So it'll depend on if you agree with them!

true

But it should be fairly OK I expect

it a bit of pity that Musicbrainz doesn't support gerne

We want to

At some point

But it's hard to do it right

okay

At some point is?

years i suppose

at some point :) we don't know in any exact terms

lol

Years, probably, yes

It might be one year