#musicbrainz

jesus2099: oh

i mean nikki

nikki: and *that* i s why i prefer it, becasue editing alaises can tend to leaef stuff ledt over

and again not aliases, but artist credits

nikki: sorry I don’t undesrsatnd :/

(sorry for me)

bye

later cats

miaou !

nikki: how often does your site cache releases?

oh. the db on there hasn't updated since october :P

I should change where the domain points to

the one I linked earlier I just entered yesterday but I'm getting the same problem on one that I entered in january

oh haha

nikki: you could parse the live pages instead of your local db ! :)

nikki: or webn service

jesus2099: if you want that, feel free to write it :P

Someone who voted on https://musicbrainz.org/artist/c340e42f-99ef-4d... ( VxJasonxV CatCat jesus2099 ), why should they be split?

It looks like they have a bunch of recordings to their name.

we are split lovers, maybe

Hm.

Freso: I just abstained those who had 3 votes already, to make your time decision

Though I guess they're mostly the same recordings being replicated, it seems.

jesus2099: Cheers. :)

hi

maybe you can no vote wil deciding, because it can pass any time now

I'd just like some more explaining from derr84 other than "split artist". I want to know why they should be split, not that he's splitting them. I can kind of tell he's doing that. :p

derr84: derr84|2: Ping?

derr84: derr84|2: Care to explain why that artist should be split? :)

Freso: because they're two artist, aren't they?)

derr84|2: Sometimes there are groups which are named "Artist 1 & Artist 2", they should remain groups.

derr84|2: But I don't know the specific case, so I don't know. :)

Freso: I myself added such duo. They performed together 20 years. I'm not sure if is's such case...

derr84|2: Which is why I'd like to know something more about the case than just "splitting". :)

Because, I can kind of tell you're splitting the artist - but I can't see from the edit why you think they should be split.

dammit

there should be a giant flashing warning next to "change artist credits" on the artist edit form

is there some way to automatically undo artist credit merges like the one at the top of this list?

no

... actually, wtf is this edit anyway

(that's why its not an auto-edit now, because you can do a lot of damage very easily)

this whole artist edit is clearly wrong, unfortunately nobody voted against it

why did the modbot post a comment on this edit? http://musicbrainz.org/edit/20952253

murdos: I get the error for the Amazon barcode script as well. :(

murdos: And Bandcamp importer :/

jesus2099: another question, for your mass merge recordings script, is it supposed to pause when I switch away from the tab?

jesus2099: You can go vote on https://musicbrainz.org/artist/c340e42f-99ef-4d... again now. :)

Freso, let's talk presents

specifically this one: https://musicbrainz.org/edit/20951671

flamingspinach: the MASS MERGEOR is not pausing, the MASS MERGEOR is DOMINATE

flamingspinach: BTW now that you say that. I remember someone told me javascript would pause when away on some browsers (I don’t remember FF or Chrome), indeed ! (I use Opera : no stop)

what’s your brwoser ?

Freso, I'm sure the split worked.

It's just pending for the one release due to the fact that the add release hasn't gone through yet

not to mention all the other pending edits

colab rel should be removed, I've made

VxJasonxV: Your probably right.

Freso: mb say no there - http://musicbrainz.org/artist/c340e42f-99ef-4de... ? that one has been applied now

derr: It wasn't when I made the edit. Anyway, I think we're good.

Freso: why will yours expire in 7 days but mine will in 14?)

derr: Because I'm on beta.

derr: But in a few minutes, the 7 day expiry will be on the main site as well.

derr: But only for new edits.

I'm sure they will mention this prominently in the release notes ( ocharles warp ).

i hadn't planned to, but I guess I should :)

Sounds like a good idea, yes :)

reosarevok: i'm posting on the normal blog, right?

ocharles: assume so, yes

ocharles: let's see if we can get styling etc in this week and hopefully next release you won't anymore :)

reosarevok: ok :)

ianmcorvidae also mentioned something else last Monday at the dev. meeting.

good to see that that change doesn't even have a ticket

ocharles: which change, the 7 days one?

yea

It does

Somewhere

not that I can see

I added one at some point, let me see

We decided on not making the change to abstain votes anyway, didn't we?

Not for now at least, yes

yes, though it's been changed for 4 hard coded editor ids

something that wasn't discussed and I'm not particularly pleased about, but whatever

Uh, it has?

yes

I wouldn't be against the change if that was communicated, but never mind

(well, i'm not against it etiher way :))

Freso: that meeting doesn't show us agreeing on 7 days though (or say why we did it)

so that's not much good for the blog post. I can't find where we agreed to do it now

ocharles: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-5757

It was admittedly just about "considering" it though

aha

(decision was in a meeting)

Yeah, that seems rather hackish.

thanks

Freso: it's not the hackishness, it just felt like a bit of abuse of commit rights

ocharles: That too.

but it's in the past now, best to let it be

I assume those editors want that behavior, too :)

I assume it's nikki (who does), probably ian? and me (who like it, although I wasn't expecting it :p)

what is abuse of commit rights?

Special casing some editor ids without going through a bug etc., I guess?

Well, it was mentioned in the comments for 5666 or whatever the bug ticket is

(as a short-term fix)

I just didn't know it had also been implemented

Sure.

I don't really mind.

As long as I get my abstain mail. :)

http://musicbrainz.org/recording/329904de-d988-... - one of those AcID is wrong. what to do?

I don't see discussion of special casing editor ids in the ticket comments.

warp: well, the commit says "revert" but it does more than that, it was a freeze period, and it skipped code review

but i really don't want to make a fuss about something so trivial

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ocharles: ah, sneaky :)

heh

so I throw a coin

derr: do you have the recording?

yes, Picard show me this mistake

The fingerprints look completely different, so I imagine it should be easy to find which is the right one and unlink the other one

I'm not completely sure how to see which one is the one you have though... if you don't know maybe luks can help

I think the first one is right. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzejWwtvFCg

hear this rythm and its image

rhythm

and how it looks on the image

well, if I unlink Picard won't return the mistake?

If you unlink the one you have from the recording that has it wrongly, it won't be detected anymore, no

(which I guess is what you mean and want :) )

(might be detected as another recording, if it's linked to several)

i'll try

now it's okay in Picard

i was right! :)

New post: blog: Server update, 2013-03-11 and an important notice regarding edits <http://blog.musicbrainz.org/?p=1784>;

not that I'm going to fight anything, because thank goodness for 7 days rather than 1000000 as it used to be

but I still think that 5½ days is a better cadence

I know, western-weekend-centric