#musicbrainz

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ZaphodBeeblebrox: then try `drutil status -drive 1`

whats up with the weird quotes?

This gives you the current device name for drive "1"

yea right

it does

but i'll still have to tell picard tat it's dev/rdisk3

:)

Maybe it would be cool if Picard would by default always use the first drive which actually has a disc inserted, or offer a choice if multiple drives with discs are present. that would mostly much make the configuration option obsolete

not to menation i must remember to insert an r because it only says disk not rdisk

ZaphodBeeblebrox: And this is exactly what libdiscid/picard could be doing. You put "1" or "2" and libdiscid figures out what actual device that is currently.

outsidecontext_: yeah, that'd be ideal

outsidecontext_: ding!

rather than

rather that*

main problem for OSX still is the lack of Picard developers with a Mac

i mean it seems VLC is doing that.. i thin that's has a open sthingy we could look at their code :P

outsidecontext_: I thought bitmap developed on OSX?

bitmap \o/

reosarevok: could be

outsidecontext_: yes, not saving the device in the configuration at all is possible. Though I am not sure if that makes sense for other platforms. Where it doesn't make a difference for the device names if a disc is inserted.

it's not as if it's the same thing in windows. there eit's a dropdown with the currecnt dirves

drives*

I mean, ideally windows would also show only drives that do have something in

Although I don't know if that info's available or not there

ZaphodBeeblebrox: the difference is: On Windows the dropdown is always the same. While on Mac OS X it is different depending on what you have mounted.

doesn't matter really. it doesn't change aroudn as often in windows (my experience)

JonnyJD: I think it could still be a useful default option, additional to selecting a specific drive

JonnyJD: HAHA no

it changes based on the machine

school computers have different drives

JonnyJD: I hope we will come to a conclusion regarding the libdiscid behavior

basically it's true its moves aroudn more on mac os

ZaphodBeeblebrox: sharing picard configuration between machines is an entirely different problem (that can be solved by leaving it empty though)

but it's hella better to have a dropdown list than nothing

not in windows

have to select a drive

JonnyJD, I like your new unix/linux patch + the windows drive detection + and probably OSX drive numbers

so a drop down with disc numbers?

that's cool i guess

ZaphodBeeblebrox: There is a patch searching for the actual disc drive letter on Windows for libdiscid. So you could leave it empty on Windows also.

well I have a nold picard because while i loved bomaps "diff" view for tags, in the long run it was unusable

:/

bitmap not bompas wtf

but alas, i should have started cooking 2 hours ago

outsidecontext_: for having just one disc drive that would solve everything (when Picard makes it possible to just leave the option empty).

onion soup <3

good idea, need some food, too. bb

Enjoy your meal then, both of you.

hi

is there an easy way to remove duplicate tags with picard?

have like 200 songs with duplicate dates and tracknumber tags

Yes, just save the files.

huh?

i saved them 2 times already

the tags remain

JonnyJD: I think part of the problem is that we don't use multiple drives, so we don't really know what we want it to do if we did have two. we just know we want it to just work with the one we have :P

JonnyJD: what outsidecontext said sounds good though

nikki: Yes, that is also what I realized. Nobody around MB has a OS X machine with multiple disc drives. So this is a somewhat hypothetical discussion :-/ (The machine I sometimes have access to has 1 drive, my VM doesn't have any (working) drives

nikki: what exactly what he said?

*technically* I now do, but I don't have enough usb ports to keep two plugged in

he said "Maybe it would be cool if Picard would by default always use the first drive which actually has a disc inserted, or offer a choice if multiple drives with discs are present. that would mostly much make the configuration option obsolete"

nikki: If you ever get that to work (needs a powerd usb-hub?) it would be interesting if drive numbers in `drutil list` are independent of the order of connection (possibly not)

I have a powered usb hub... but it's already full :P

I've been meaning to see what happens, but I'd need to reorganise cables a bit first, or maybe just plug the power one into another computer

nikki: the option to ask on every read would hurt Windows/Linux people with multiple drives, since they do get that question, even if having a constant option would work.

well, what outsidecontext said was to ask when there's multiple discs, not when there's multiple drives

nikki: that is because on Linux/Windows it is not relevant (and not as easy to check) if a disc is in the drive.

wouldn't it just try to read the toc?

not relevant? seems quite relevant to the user :)

warp: well, not relevant in the technical sense. For Mac OS X the drive "doesn't even exist" when no disc is inserted

nikki: yes, trying to read the toc would be possible. However, that might get weird when you get unrelated errors reading.

nikki: as in: not having a disc in any drive is not the same as not being able to read a valid TOC from the drive. So telling "the read failed" would need to specify all drives for "what fails" I don't know, it does get weird easily.

I'll have to check if there is an easy way to check if a disc is in the drive without trying to read the toc.

Can anyone interpret the artist credits on http://ia601808.us.archive.org/5/items/mbid-acc... ( http://beta.musicbrainz.org/release/acc568fd-77... )

Specifically I cannot understand what choir or choirs are being referenced there

it's not like it matters to picard though, if it can't read a toc it can't read a toc, whether that's because there's no disc or because the disc is unreadable doesn't change the outcome :P it could just say to the user that it can't find a readable cd and they should check that there's a cd present and that it's not damaged

nikki: Well, I personally don't like when programs tell me "something failed" without giving details, but you are right. When it works the user doesn't really care why.

is there any documentation on what formatting is allowed in the musicbrainz blog? Some really weird automatic formatting messes with my comment (still editing)

JonnyJD: it's a normal wordpress install, though I don't know what formatting wordpress uses.

trying to find out, but google at least didn't give anything useful in the first results. (still searching though)

html it seems

I don't have a problem that only some html is allowed, but some automatic formatting is applied without even using html Oo

sure, but you can probably get around that with <pre>, <code> and html entities.

yes, but that also formats the text in some way. I think I found the problem though.

When you insert a newline, but not an empty line; the whole paragraph is in bold.

Using <br/> now for a newline and it works as expected now.

wow, that's peculiar.

It seems search server has problem with / or %2F in artist name, but Picard’s “Lookup in Browser” uses them anyway… and the ruthless server doesn’t approve

it’a also interesting that Picard track artist for searching, not album artist

Picard uses*

SultS_: I thought that was fixed by now :/

(lucene uses / as an operator in the latest version)

I guess it maybe needs a new version of Picard to go out that escapes them

not fixed in windows version

or you meant server fix?

I meant server fix but then realised that probably needs a Picard fix too

possibly… and I do think that searching for album artist makes more sense :) especially as in my case track artist wasn’t always the same for the cluster :)

I could see it being a fallback, if there isn’t albumartist tag

Meh

Tempted by http://www.grind.ee/artists/ but 40€ + transport to Pärnu is kinda quite a lot

(also that's a horrible font)

I only recognize a couple of artists from there :)

(probably not for me then)

heh, possibly. I guess it's most oriented towards dnb-ish stuff than trance

:)

I might be way too selective dnb listener to attend a festival dedicated to it :)

but some of it is def good

I've been told by several different people that I should definitely go see Foreign Beggars live if I had the chance, plus I'm curious about a Mord Fustang set and I'd love to check Joker's. And High Contrast I've seen here in Tartu and it was very nice. But yeah, I have some doubts whether I won't be tired of music by the end of the first day :)

lol “Festival age limit 16 years.” I don’t think you can go :P

*sigh* is there a way I can search for all RCA releases matching the pattern *-2-R (on MB or discogs, if someone knows how to do that there)

SultS_: I'll crouch :D

hawke_1: you can possibly search in geordi for the discogs ones :p

I liked some Ford Mustang track… no idea what it was though :)

(don't think geordi has a no-*-as-first-char requirement)

How do I search geordi by cat no.?

That's a good question

but I'm sure it should be possible

oh

hawke_1: you can use http://reports.mbsandbox.org/ to search the DB directly :)

I suspect SQL allows such a search

(don't remember *how* but you can find it I'm sure)

Yeah, I was afraid of that. :-D

heh

So

geordi does allow it

( _geordi.mapping.release.label.catalog_number:*HAN gives Chandos releases)

But _geordi.mapping.release.label.catalog_number:*-2-R finds nothing

hrm.

reosarevok: _geordi.mapping.release.label.catalog_number:"*-2-R" seems to work.

oh

Nice then :)

But gets some extra results. Any idea if the results can be sorted ( ianmcorvidae? )

I don't know, so yeah, you'll need him :)

And of course the schema docs don’t cover the new release events

they can be sorted, you need to do it as a JSON search