ZaphodBeeblebrox: then try `drutil status -drive 1`
2013-06-20 17118, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
whats up with the weird quotes?
2013-06-20 17137, 2013
JonnyJD
This gives you the current device name for drive "1"
2013-06-20 17152, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
yea right
2013-06-20 17156, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
it does
2013-06-20 17113, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
but i'll still have to tell picard tat it's dev/rdisk3
2013-06-20 17118, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
:)
2013-06-20 17142, 2013
outsidecontext_
Maybe it would be cool if Picard would by default always use the first drive which actually has a disc inserted, or offer a choice if multiple drives with discs are present. that would mostly much make the configuration option obsolete
2013-06-20 17143, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
not to menation i must remember to insert an r because it only says disk not rdisk
2013-06-20 17143, 2013
JonnyJD
ZaphodBeeblebrox: And this is exactly what libdiscid/picard could be doing. You put "1" or "2" and libdiscid figures out what actual device that is currently.
2013-06-20 17102, 2013
reosarevok
outsidecontext_: yeah, that'd be ideal
2013-06-20 17103, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
outsidecontext_: ding!
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ZaphodBeeblebrox
rather than
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ZaphodBeeblebrox
rather that*
2013-06-20 17142, 2013
outsidecontext_
main problem for OSX still is the lack of Picard developers with a Mac
2013-06-20 17150, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
i mean it seems VLC is doing that.. i thin that's has a open sthingy we could look at their code :P
2013-06-20 17101, 2013
reosarevok
outsidecontext_: I thought bitmap developed on OSX?
2013-06-20 17112, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
bitmap \o/
2013-06-20 17133, 2013
outsidecontext_
reosarevok: could be
2013-06-20 17137, 2013
JonnyJD
outsidecontext_: yes, not saving the device in the configuration at all is possible. Though I am not sure if that makes sense for other platforms. Where it doesn't make a difference for the device names if a disc is inserted.
2013-06-20 17105, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
it's not as if it's the same thing in windows. there eit's a dropdown with the currecnt dirves
2013-06-20 17107, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
drives*
2013-06-20 17134, 2013
reosarevok
I mean, ideally windows would also show only drives that do have something in
2013-06-20 17141, 2013
reosarevok
Although I don't know if that info's available or not there
2013-06-20 17150, 2013
JonnyJD
ZaphodBeeblebrox: the difference is: On Windows the dropdown is always the same. While on Mac OS X it is different depending on what you have mounted.
2013-06-20 17104, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
doesn't matter really. it doesn't change aroudn as often in windows (my experience)
2013-06-20 17105, 2013
outsidecontext_
JonnyJD: I think it could still be a useful default option, additional to selecting a specific drive
2013-06-20 17117, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
JonnyJD: HAHA no
2013-06-20 17123, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
it changes based on the machine
2013-06-20 17134, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox has picard on an USB stick
2013-06-20 17149, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
school computers have different drives
2013-06-20 17156, 2013
outsidecontext_
JonnyJD: I hope we will come to a conclusion regarding the libdiscid behavior
2013-06-20 17117, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
basically it's true its moves aroudn more on mac os
2013-06-20 17129, 2013
JonnyJD
ZaphodBeeblebrox: sharing picard configuration between machines is an entirely different problem (that can be solved by leaving it empty though)
2013-06-20 17130, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
but it's hella better to have a dropdown list than nothing
2013-06-20 17141, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
not in windows
2013-06-20 17147, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
have to select a drive
2013-06-20 17100, 2013
outsidecontext_
JonnyJD, I like your new unix/linux patch + the windows drive detection + and probably OSX drive numbers
2013-06-20 17102, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
so a drop down with disc numbers?
2013-06-20 17106, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
that's cool i guess
2013-06-20 17112, 2013
JonnyJD
ZaphodBeeblebrox: There is a patch searching for the actual disc drive letter on Windows for libdiscid. So you could leave it empty on Windows also.
2013-06-20 17151, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
well I have a nold picard because while i loved bomaps "diff" view for tags, in the long run it was unusable
2013-06-20 17153, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
:/
2013-06-20 17104, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
bitmap not bompas wtf
2013-06-20 17120, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
but alas, i should have started cooking 2 hours ago
2013-06-20 17123, 2013
JonnyJD
outsidecontext_: for having just one disc drive that would solve everything (when Picard makes it possible to just leave the option empty).
2013-06-20 17124, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
onion soup <3
2013-06-20 17113, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox goes off for food
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outsidecontext_
good idea, need some food, too. bb
2013-06-20 17148, 2013
JonnyJD
Enjoy your meal then, both of you.
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Rasi
hi
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Rasi
is there an easy way to remove duplicate tags with picard?
2013-06-20 17143, 2013
Rasi
have like 200 songs with duplicate dates and tracknumber tags
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hawke_1
Yes, just save the files.
2013-06-20 17122, 2013
Rasi
huh?
2013-06-20 17136, 2013
Rasi
i saved them 2 times already
2013-06-20 17140, 2013
Rasi
the tags remain
2013-06-20 17145, 2013
nikki
JonnyJD: I think part of the problem is that we don't use multiple drives, so we don't really know what we want it to do if we did have two. we just know we want it to just work with the one we have :P
2013-06-20 17124, 2013
nikki
JonnyJD: what outsidecontext said sounds good though
2013-06-20 17153, 2013
JonnyJD
nikki: Yes, that is also what I realized. Nobody around MB has a OS X machine with multiple disc drives. So this is a somewhat hypothetical discussion :-/ (The machine I sometimes have access to has 1 drive, my VM doesn't have any (working) drives
2013-06-20 17110, 2013
JonnyJD
nikki: what exactly what he said?
2013-06-20 17121, 2013
nikki
*technically* I now do, but I don't have enough usb ports to keep two plugged in
2013-06-20 17156, 2013
nikki
he said "Maybe it would be cool if Picard would by default always use the first drive which actually has a disc inserted, or offer a choice if multiple drives with discs are present. that would mostly much make the configuration option obsolete"
2013-06-20 17136, 2013
JonnyJD
nikki: If you ever get that to work (needs a powerd usb-hub?) it would be interesting if drive numbers in `drutil list` are independent of the order of connection (possibly not)
2013-06-20 17156, 2013
nikki
I have a powered usb hub... but it's already full :P
2013-06-20 17147, 2013
nikki
I've been meaning to see what happens, but I'd need to reorganise cables a bit first, or maybe just plug the power one into another computer
2013-06-20 17101, 2013
JonnyJD
nikki: the option to ask on every read would hurt Windows/Linux people with multiple drives, since they do get that question, even if having a constant option would work.
2013-06-20 17145, 2013
nikki
well, what outsidecontext said was to ask when there's multiple discs, not when there's multiple drives
2013-06-20 17150, 2013
JonnyJD
nikki: that is because on Linux/Windows it is not relevant (and not as easy to check) if a disc is in the drive.
2013-06-20 17105, 2013
nikki
wouldn't it just try to read the toc?
2013-06-20 17111, 2013
warp
not relevant? seems quite relevant to the user :)
2013-06-20 17109, 2013
JonnyJD
warp: well, not relevant in the technical sense. For Mac OS X the drive "doesn't even exist" when no disc is inserted
2013-06-20 17132, 2013
JonnyJD
nikki: yes, trying to read the toc would be possible. However, that might get weird when you get unrelated errors reading.
2013-06-20 17131, 2013
JonnyJD
nikki: as in: not having a disc in any drive is not the same as not being able to read a valid TOC from the drive. So telling "the read failed" would need to specify all drives for "what fails" I don't know, it does get weird easily.
2013-06-20 17122, 2013
JonnyJD
I'll have to check if there is an easy way to check if a disc is in the drive without trying to read the toc.
Specifically I cannot understand what choir or choirs are being referenced there
2013-06-20 17107, 2013
nikki
it's not like it matters to picard though, if it can't read a toc it can't read a toc, whether that's because there's no disc or because the disc is unreadable doesn't change the outcome :P it could just say to the user that it can't find a readable cd and they should check that there's a cd present and that it's not damaged
2013-06-20 17152, 2013
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JonnyJD
nikki: Well, I personally don't like when programs tell me "something failed" without giving details, but you are right. When it works the user doesn't really care why.
2013-06-20 17103, 2013
JonnyJD
is there any documentation on what formatting is allowed in the musicbrainz blog? Some really weird automatic formatting messes with my comment (still editing)
2013-06-20 17148, 2013
warp
JonnyJD: it's a normal wordpress install, though I don't know what formatting wordpress uses.
2013-06-20 17143, 2013
JonnyJD
trying to find out, but google at least didn't give anything useful in the first results. (still searching though)
I don't have a problem that only some html is allowed, but some automatic formatting is applied without even using html Oo
2013-06-20 17149, 2013
warp
sure, but you can probably get around that with <pre>, <code> and html entities.
2013-06-20 17116, 2013
JonnyJD
yes, but that also formats the text in some way. I think I found the problem though.
2013-06-20 17136, 2013
JonnyJD
When you insert a newline, but not an empty line; the whole paragraph is in bold.
2013-06-20 17158, 2013
JonnyJD
Using <br/> now for a newline and it works as expected now.
2013-06-20 17120, 2013
warp
wow, that's peculiar.
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SultS_
It seems search server has problem with / or %2F in artist name, but Picard’s “Lookup in Browser” uses them anyway… and the ruthless server doesn’t approve
2013-06-20 17108, 2013
SultS_
it’a also interesting that Picard track artist for searching, not album artist
2013-06-20 17134, 2013
SultS_
Picard uses*
2013-06-20 17134, 2013
reosarevok
SultS_: I thought that was fixed by now :/
2013-06-20 17147, 2013
reosarevok
(lucene uses / as an operator in the latest version)
2013-06-20 17106, 2013
reosarevok
I guess it maybe needs a new version of Picard to go out that escapes them
2013-06-20 17152, 2013
SultS_
not fixed in windows version
2013-06-20 17116, 2013
SultS_
or you meant server fix?
2013-06-20 17144, 2013
reosarevok
I meant server fix but then realised that probably needs a Picard fix too
2013-06-20 17129, 2013
SultS_
possibly… and I do think that searching for album artist makes more sense :) especially as in my case track artist wasn’t always the same for the cluster :)
2013-06-20 17104, 2013
SultS_
I could see it being a fallback, if there isn’t albumartist tag
I only recognize a couple of artists from there :)
2013-06-20 17131, 2013
SultS_
(probably not for me then)
2013-06-20 17150, 2013
reosarevok
heh, possibly. I guess it's most oriented towards dnb-ish stuff than trance
2013-06-20 17151, 2013
reosarevok
:)
2013-06-20 17104, 2013
SultS_
I might be way too selective dnb listener to attend a festival dedicated to it :)
2013-06-20 17118, 2013
SultS_
but some of it is def good
2013-06-20 17139, 2013
reosarevok
I've been told by several different people that I should definitely go see Foreign Beggars live if I had the chance, plus I'm curious about a Mord Fustang set and I'd love to check Joker's. And High Contrast I've seen here in Tartu and it was very nice. But yeah, I have some doubts whether I won't be tired of music by the end of the first day :)
2013-06-20 17147, 2013
reosarevok
Haven't been to a festival in aaaaaages
2013-06-20 17153, 2013
SultS_
lol “Festival age limit 16 years.” I don’t think you can go :P
2013-06-20 17109, 2013
hawke_1
*sigh* is there a way I can search for all RCA releases matching the pattern *-2-R (on MB or discogs, if someone knows how to do that there)
2013-06-20 17121, 2013
reosarevok
SultS_: I'll crouch :D
2013-06-20 17145, 2013
reosarevok
hawke_1: you can possibly search in geordi for the discogs ones :p
2013-06-20 17157, 2013
SultS_
I liked some Ford Mustang track… no idea what it was though :)
2013-06-20 17100, 2013
reosarevok
(don't think geordi has a no-*-as-first-char requirement)
