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any french guys here?:)

hmm, anybody here? i just ran into a kind of issue i've never encountered before:)

there was a release with protected track durations. but the songs names were switched over each other. now it tells me i can't change it because it's disc id attached, blabla. what can i do?:)

hi

I unfortunately don't know

but ppl are often here.

i know 5:27 is not the best time to ask:)

well it's 830pm here

0630 am reporting but dunno the solution

culinko: can you post url?

culinko: Were you renaming the tracks or trying to reorder them?

culinko: With a disc ID attached you won't be able to reorder the tracks

i just opened parser and copied there new text

won't let me to recordings tab

i'll try edit the tracks one by one

yeah, the parser probably isn't that smart

sad though that is

well actualy no, it was my fault

had only 12 tracks in parser while there are 13 tracks, at least seems so

ah, well, that'd do it

actually

there are 13 tracks, but when i click on recordings tab, i get the warnings and have 12 tracks there only

ill try without parsing

was able to proceed

strange

the parser probably changed something strange that it shouldn't have

well there were only track numbers and titles

the problem were the tab spaces. even if they were auto-trimmed

Is luks around?

culinko: accecatly what were you changing? and where?

now i realized there are wrong asins and stuff maybe :D

look two edits below me... lol

mr_maxis: u there?

just a second I'm writing you a note

okay

culinko: note added

yes, that would be the right way. i can cancel the edit and create a new release. i never moved discIDs before (didn't even know they are moveable), so it would be the first-time experience kinda :P

It's very easy :)

well it will be one more thing i will learn:)

reosarevok: the edit counter on user page is supposed to be real-time? because mine look like frozen since yesterday at least... the vote counter updates correctly though

Maybe it's related to the pending edits disabling

(see the blog)

oh

I see

it's so confusing without the orange markings :S

it's pending edits and editor stats stuff, yes

so the listing on your user page won't update at present

that the vote counter updates may be an oversight, heh

re http://musicbrainz.org/edit/18521754 culinko, you should know that most times that the tracklist is "wrong" it's that you have the wrogn release. ior in this case the disc id is on the wrong release, reordering tracks or renamign thme is most often than not incorrect

ahah i've fixed all the "Lonesome Travel(l)er" in the db :] ... go do a search for works "Lonesome Travel(l)er"

ahahha

ye, i've learned a lessen from that

okay, moved the discid to the new release. that was easy :D

it is

i got more into the musicbrainz process :D

Be afraid

Be very afraid

After a while you can't get out!

well i was just quoting one user's edit message :P

teh capital:)

heh

No wonder you've been to Austria then

You could probably bike there

yea

even some local traffic goes into wolfstahl from bratislava

to*

culinko: don't quote informant, that guy is no good :s

i know:)

Good morning! I added a new release at http://musicbrainz.org/release/fe665a5a-3511-47... . This is a course in ancient Egyptian for French speakers, published by Assimil.

There were actually two sets of track titles available: One in hieroglyphics, and one in French. I went with the French track titles because hieroglyphics (1) require rare fonts, (2) use characters outside the Unicode Basic Multilingual Plane, and (3) don't really render correctly in Unicode, because there's no way to do 2-dimension layout.

You could add a second release in hieroglyphics, for people who want that

(as pseudo-release, linked to the French one with a "translated tracklist" relationship)

Ah, that would be fun.

I'll see if my input method allows me to type enough of the characters.

Anyway, how does voting work for something really obscure like this? I'd hate to have all the data expire without anyone ever looking at it.

If it expires without anyone looking at it, it will pass

(and be accepted)

Voting is mostly so people can see it and *avoid* it being accepted if it's wrong

Oh, OK. That makes sense. I had trouble figuring out the edge cases in the voting algorithm.

i think only the high quality edits fails without a vote (not sure)

Yeah

And that will change soon

Well, soon

When some developer implements the changes requested in style

Final question: Each of these tracks corresponds to a lesson in the book, numbered 1-101. There would be significant utility in having the lesson numbers in the track titles, or at least continuing the track numbering from one disk to the next. But that seems like the kind of thing that should be discussed first.

Yeah, "Le�on 1:" would work fine, I think. Thank you!

Ow, this "502 Bad Gateway" stuff just ate 101 release -> track connects.

connections.

just click back

it should be there

Nope, it was the "Select a recording for updated track" bit.

Editing 4 CDs of track names generates a whole pile of edits. :-/

Thank you for helping a newbie figure out how to submit to MusicBrainz!

How long will I typically need to wait before my edits are available to my CD ripping software?

was this for a release add? if so, it should be available now (though it won't be in the search indexes, I suppose)

If it was editing, then... it depends, usually needs the edits to pass

Yeah, I can see the original add, but not the update with the lesson numbers we just discussed, so that makes perfect sense.

look in your userinfo for open edits, they should pass after 14 days or till you get 3 yes votes

Too much work to ask anyone to vote, anyway�editing track names for a CD set generates pages of individual edits. Will wait the 14 days.

Thank you for such a great database, and for all your help!

well there are so many edits, because you edited the recordings too:)

Which is probably a good thing, but as long as the tracklist edits pass that's enough for tagging

but you can be sucked into the system like a rest of us :D

I do have a lot of very weird CDs, and I sometimes re-rip them with various software packages, which means this probably won't be my last submission.

lol good morning

[14:48] reosarevok(as pseudo-release, linked to the French one with a "translated tracklist" relationship)

actually if the release waspublished with both then it wouldn't be psuedo thoguh, would it?

I know, you could argue the French is the pseudo

Maybe

Except that adding two official entries for the same thing is ARGH PLEASE NO

yeal

alternate tracklists for the same release omg

hmm, if i want to submit fingerprints, can i do it from picard or do i need acoustid fingerprinter?

Ok, not exactly

But for submitting stuff you have tagged already you'd need to move it to the left pane, scan it, and then move it back to the right one and submit

So it's easier to just use the fingerprinter

hmm, so if i want to submit fingerprints directly from an audio cd, how could i do it?:)